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Animated jpg's: Any such thing?
 

rfdjr1@optonline.net




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Old Post  06-11-06 - 09:03 AM  
I'm working on a website and in the past have used animated gof files, using
Animation Shop in PSP 8. However, since the original pictures I start with a
re
jpg, and I have to convert them to gif, they lose color and get very grainy.
 So
I started to wonder can you make animations with jpg files and keep the qual
ity
of the pictures? I'm working with actual photographs. Is it possible in
Animation Shop or is there another program to do this? Thanks.



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Fred Hiltz




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rfdjr1@optonline.net wrote:
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> I started to wonder can you make animations with jpg files?
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No. JPG does not support animation. To animate photo-quality images
you can look into Flash, though. For typical photo sizes, it will
require your clients to have fast Internet connections. Some
fraction of users find Flash annoying enough to disable it. (I'm one
of them.)
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Fred Hiltz,  fhiltz at yahoo dot com




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JoeB




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rfdjr1@optonline.net wrote in
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> I'm working on a website and in the past have used animated gof
files,
> using Animation Shop in PSP 8. However, since the original
pictures I
> start with are jpg, and I have to convert them to gif, they
lose color
> and get very grainy. So I started to wonder can you make
animations
> with jpg files and keep the quality of the pictures? I'm
working with
> actual photographs. Is it possible in Animation Shop or is
there
> another program to do this? Thanks.
>

First, Fred is correct that AS and similar programs only animate
gifs.

As for flash, if you do want to do animations using flash you can
consider programs that will write .swf files that are much less
expensive than the Flash  software and more intuitive (i.e.,
easier to learn).  I use Swishmax for my flash stuff (just google
it if you're interested).

I only suggest flash movies as an alternative to gif animations
if you are only going to use the animation in the same way gif
animations are generally used - i.e., as a small portion of a web
page containing the animation, not to create complete pages or
websites.  They can then be reasonably small in download size,
and most of the page will be straight html.

Regards,

JoeB


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On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:41:50 -0400, rfdjr1@optonline.net wrote:

>I'm working on a website and in the past have used animated gof files, usin
g
>Animation Shop in PSP 8. However, since the original pictures I start with 
are
>jpg, and I have to convert them to gif, they lose color and get very grainy
. So
>I started to wonder can you make animations with jpg files and keep the qua
lity
>of the pictures? I'm working with actual photographs. Is it possible in
>Animation Shop or is there another program to do this? Thanks.

I should have been more specific, in case it has a bearing on the replies I 
get
here. What I'm doing is taking ten or twelve jpg pictures, about 400x250 pix
els
in size, and running them in sequence, with fade outs, wipes, blinds, etc. Y
ou
can see what I did with the gif files on the website at:

http://www.donotcrash.org

I started thinking after my original post that you might think I'm talking a
bout
little characters dancing, etc. I called what I'm doing animations only beca
use
I used Animation Shop to make them. Thanks.



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Sonja Shea




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<rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:41:50 -0400, rfdjr1@optonline.net wrote:
> 
>
> I should have been more specific, in case it has a bearing on the replies
> I get
> here. What I'm doing is taking ten or twelve jpg pictures, about 400x250
> pixels
> in size, and running them in sequence, with fade outs, wipes, blinds, etc.
> You
> can see what I did with the gif files on the website at:
>
> http://www.donotcrash.org
>
> I started thinking after my original post that you might think I'm talking
> about
> little characters dancing, etc. I called what I'm doing animations only
> because
> I used Animation Shop to make them. Thanks.


Have you considered using something like Corel's Photo Album that allows you
to create slideshows or use other types of templates?  You can then stick
with using the jpg files, just compress them somewhat to save file size.
Another option to consider would be to use some scripts that are freely
available on the web (might require a link-back) to display the images? Java
would be one option... here is a link for one that will display different
images
http://www.javascriptcity.com/scripts/image1.htm
or
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex4/
I have used the dynamicdrive one myself, although it was some time ago. Had
pretty good luck with that though.  Google "image scripts" and you can get
several other sites as well. :) Playing devils advocate <g> and referencing
Fred's post, some people (surfers) feel  the same about Java and scripts as
they do about animations so use with caution. :))

Sonja




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Old Post  06-11-06 - 09:03 AM  
<rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:v5ck82pq4vnt09bthugn8psad0lfrliqe0@4ax.com...
> I'm working on a website and in the past have used animated gof files,
> using
> Animation Shop in PSP 8. However, since the original pictures I start with
> are
> jpg, and I have to convert them to gif, they lose color and get very
> grainy. So
> I started to wonder can you make animations with jpg files and keep the
> quality
> of the pictures? I'm working with actual photographs. Is it possible in
> Animation Shop or is there another program to do this? Thanks.
>

Yes they are called Mjpeg. motion jpeg. low frame rate movies of the type
taken by still digital cameras.

Much bigger file size them animated gif of course.

So as its a movie you will need a video editing programme. and save as mpeg.




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<rfdjr1@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 09 Jun 2006 22:41:50 -0400, rfdjr1@optonline.net wrote:
> 
>
> I should have been more specific, in case it has a bearing on the replies
> I get
> here. What I'm doing is taking ten or twelve jpg pictures, about 400x250
> pixels
> in size, and running them in sequence, with fade outs, wipes, blinds, etc.
> You
> can see what I did with the gif files on the website at:
>
> http://www.donotcrash.org
>
> I started thinking after my original post that you might think I'm talking
> about
> little characters dancing, etc. I called what I'm doing animations only
> because
> I used Animation Shop to make them. Thanks.
>

That could be done with Java script .
http://www.anfyteam.com/  Lots of different effects applet to chose from and
insert into your page.

So ignore my other post




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