I am using Publisher 2003. My site works fine with broadband. When viewed
from a dial-up connection my images appear as a red x's. I am using alot of
images mainly small gifs. There is one or two that work from time to time an
d
they are not unique. I have tried even single page publishes with 1 image an
d
dial-up will not read it.
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Thanks

Publisher 2003 does result in slower loading images, but generally if you
can see the images via broadband, you can also see them....eventually...with
dial up. Perhaps you will have better luck if you use the compress images
function before you publish your site. Here is a MS article that might help:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/a...1266301033.aspx

DavidF

"gfish29" <gfish29@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0C7935BA-38C5-4A6D-85A3-D214332AD9F0@microsoft.com...
> I am using Publisher 2003. My site works fine with broadband. When viewed
> from a dial-up connection my images appear as a red x's. I am using alot
of
> images mainly small gifs. There is one or two that work from time to time
and
> they are not unique. I have tried even single page publishes with 1 image
and
> dial-up will not read it.
> --
> Thanks

The site always works perfect with broadband except for some weird indenting
issues on one of the pages. I got the site working with dial-up but it is no
t
consistantly working. There are always some images that don't load but never
the same images. It changes after I do a disk clean up or when I delete the
temporary internet files. Once I pull the site up the first time it loads
slowly then it loads really fast when I refresh the screen. The graphics tha
t
are going to load, load fast. The other don't work at all.
--
Thanks


"DavidF" wrote:

> Publisher 2003 does result in slower loading images, but generally if you
> can see the images via broadband, you can also see them....eventually...wi
th
> dial up. Perhaps you will have better luck if you use the compress images
> function before you publish your site. Here is a MS article that might hel
p:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/a...1266301033.aspx
>
> DavidF
>
> "gfish29" <gfish29@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0C7935BA-38C5-4A6D-85A3-D214332AD9F0@microsoft.com... 
> of 
> and 
> and 
>
>
>

It sounds like your images are too large. Did you use the "compress images"
function as suggested? Or perhaps resample, and reduce the size of the
images in a third party image editing app before you insert them into your
Pub doc. And go to Tools > Options > Web tab and deselect "Rely on VML..."
and "Allow PNG...". Delete your old html files on your site and republish.

DavidF

"gfish29" <gfish29@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:10B2B0CC-31F8-40EB-A8E6-D321410D94F7@microsoft.com...
> The site always works perfect with broadband except for some weird
indenting
> issues on one of the pages. I got the site working with dial-up but it is
not
> consistantly working. There are always some images that don't load but
never
> the same images. It changes after I do a disk clean up or when I delete
the
> temporary internet files. Once I pull the site up the first time it loads
> slowly then it loads really fast when I refresh the screen. The graphics
that
> are going to load, load fast. The other don't work at all.
> --
> Thanks
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
> 
you 
them....eventually...with 
images 
help: 
viewed 
alot 
time 
image 

Can you view my site and make a recommendation from what you see? I have
tried all those other things. I have even tried to link some of the images,
but it won't let me link more then one page to one image. I don't understand
the inconsistancy of it working and then not working. If the images are to
large I wouldn't think it would work at all? Is there a threshhold I should
shoot for? Image wise or page wise.
--
Thanks


"DavidF" wrote:

> It sounds like your images are too large. Did you use the "compress images
"
> function as suggested? Or perhaps resample, and reduce the size of the
> images in a third party image editing app before you insert them into your
> Pub doc. And go to Tools > Options > Web tab and deselect "Rely on VML..."
> and "Allow PNG...". Delete your old html files on your site and republish.
>
> DavidF
>
> "gfish29" <gfish29@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:10B2B0CC-31F8-40EB-A8E6-D321410D94F7@microsoft.com... 
> indenting 
> not 
> never 
> the 
> that 
> you 
> them....eventually...with 
> images 
> help: 
> viewed 
> alot 
> time 
> image 
>
>
>

www.biketonature.com
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Thanks


"gfish29" wrote:

> Can you view my site and make a recommendation from what you see? I have
> tried all those other things. I have even tried to link some of the images
,
> but it won't let me link more then one page to one image. I don't understa
nd
> the inconsistancy of it working and then not working. If the images are to
> large I wouldn't think it would work at all? Is there a threshhold I shoul
d
> shoot for? Image wise or page wise.
> --
> Thanks
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
> 

gfish,

It all looks good to me. In fact, I think you have built a pretty elaborate
site and should feel pretty good about it. All the images on the pages that
I looked at loaded, even using a dial-up connection. And most seemed to load
in a reasonable time for Pub 2003.

I don't understand your comment or question about "...tried to link some
images, but..."

Inconsistency?...if you delete all your temp internet pages before viewing a
page, the pages will load more slowly the first time. The second time you
load a page, you already have the images on your computer, so it will load
more quickly. For a true comparison of loading time of different pages,
always delete your temp pages before viewing...

I guess I don't see any major problem, at least not with the pages I looked
at. If there is a particular page or image, then post back with that URL of
that page, and I'll take another look. Publisher 2003 images do load a bit
slower, but you seem to have found a pretty good balance between image
quality and size, and loading time, in general.

You would find images loading more quickly if you import...or link to them,
and bypass the Publisher coding engine. (Perhaps that was what your comment
was about?) You might experiment with that to see if you like the results
better. Here is an article:
http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/...icle.asp?ID=287

Does that answer your questions?

DavidF

"gfish29" <gfish29@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B0DB8D86-01A7-437A-AC00-92046E234842@microsoft.com...
> Can you view my site and make a recommendation from what you see? I have
> tried all those other things. I have even tried to link some of the
images,
> but it won't let me link more then one page to one image. I don't
understand
> the inconsistancy of it working and then not working. If the images are to
> large I wouldn't think it would work at all? Is there a threshhold I
should
> shoot for? Image wise or page wise.
> --
> Thanks
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
> 
images" 
your 
VML..." 
republish. 
is 
delete 
loads 
graphics 
if 
might 
using 
to 
1 

The inconsistancy is at the bike shop. When I load the site there. There is
always some page that will be missing a graphic or two. I can delete the
files and try again then it will be other graphics that are missing. I have
tried on two of the computers there and they do the same thing. When his
computer is clean it works fine but as soon as he builds up temp files the
page starts missing graphics(never the same graphics). I noticed that I have
alot of missing alternative text and overlowing text boxes. I am fixing that
.
But should that cause problems??????I will also look into linking the images
I guess.
--
Thanks


"DavidF" wrote:

> gfish,
>
> It all looks good to me. In fact, I think you have built a pretty elaborat
e
> site and should feel pretty good about it. All the images on the pages tha
t
> I looked at loaded, even using a dial-up connection. And most seemed to lo
ad
> in a reasonable time for Pub 2003.
>
> I don't understand your comment or question about "...tried to link some
> images, but..."
>
> Inconsistency?...if you delete all your temp internet pages before viewing
 a
> page, the pages will load more slowly the first time. The second time you
> load a page, you already have the images on your computer, so it will load
> more quickly. For a true comparison of loading time of different pages,
> always delete your temp pages before viewing...
>
> I guess I don't see any major problem, at least not with the pages I looke
d
> at. If there is a particular page or image, then post back with that URL o
f
> that page, and I'll take another look. Publisher 2003 images do load a bit
> slower, but you seem to have found a pretty good balance between image
> quality and size, and loading time, in general.
>
> You would find images loading more quickly if you import...or link to them
,
> and bypass the Publisher coding engine. (Perhaps that was what your commen
t
> was about?) You might experiment with that to see if you like the results
> better. Here is an article:
> http://pubs.logicalexpressions.com/...icle.asp?ID=287
>
> Does that answer your questions?
>
> DavidF
>
> "gfish29" <gfish29@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B0DB8D86-01A7-437A-AC00-92046E234842@microsoft.com... 
> images, 
> understand 
> should 
> images" 
> your 
> VML..." 
> republish. 
> is 
> delete 
> loads 
> graphics 
> if 
> might 
> using 
> to 
> 1 
>
>
>

As I said, I every image loads for me. Perhaps David Bartosik, Mary, Don or
Rob could try your site to see if they get a different experience. Have some
of your customers or friends help test the site...

Also, perhaps you could increase the size of your Temp internet folder size,
delete the files, and then reboot the computer(s) at the store to see if
that makes any difference. It seems that your problems are more a function
of your computers than the site. Overflowing text boxes should not affect
your images, but overlapping images & text boxes will. It will combine the
text box with the image to create a new image. Perhaps run the design
checker to see if you have any instances of that happening??

As per using the import images option, I would probably concentrate on the
larger, JPG images for that such as the picture of your store on your home
page. Given the large number of images you have on your site, I doubt if it
would be worth it to do it for every image. Perhaps temporarily add a test
page to your site, and both link and embed the same image(s) side by side to
see the difference in loading time and quality before you undertake
linking/importing more.

What application are you using for resampling and optimizing your images, by
the way?

DavidF

"gfish29" <gfish29@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E5B9990A-939E-46F6-BBDA-C8529E2B610F@microsoft.com...
> The inconsistancy is at the bike shop. When I load the site there. There
is
> always some page that will be missing a graphic or two. I can delete the
> files and try again then it will be other graphics that are missing. I
have
> tried on two of the computers there and they do the same thing. When his
> computer is clean it works fine but as soon as he builds up temp files the
> page starts missing graphics(never the same graphics). I noticed that I
have
> alot of missing alternative text and overlowing text boxes. I am fixing
that.
> But should that cause problems??????I will also look into linking the
images
> I guess.
> --
> Thanks
>
>
> "DavidF" wrote:
> 
elaborate 
that 
load 
viewing a 
you 
load 
looked 
of 
bit 
them, 
comment 
results 
have 
are to 
the 
into 
but it 
but 
it 
generally 
compress 
When 
time 
with 

It loads everything for me.  All the pictures are intact.

Why do folks make such great web sites and mine looks like a 5 year old did 
it?

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com

"DavidF" <Nope@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> As I said, I every image loads for me. Perhaps David Bartosik, Mary, Don o
r
> Rob could try your site to see if they get a different experience. Have so
me
> of your customers or friends help test the site...
>
> Also, perhaps you could increase the size of your Temp internet folder siz
e,
> delete the files, and then reboot the computer(s) at the store to see if
> that makes any difference. It seems that your problems are more a function
> of your computers than the site. Overflowing text boxes should not affect
> your images, but overlapping images & text boxes will. It will combine the
> text box with the image to create a new image. Perhaps run the design
> checker to see if you have any instances of that happening??
>
> As per using the import images option, I would probably concentrate on the
> larger, JPG images for that such as the picture of your store on your home
> page. Given the large number of images you have on your site, I doubt if i
t
> would be worth it to do it for every image. Perhaps temporarily add a test
> page to your site, and both link and embed the same image(s) side by side 
to
> see the difference in loading time and quality before you undertake
> linking/importing more.
>
> What application are you using for resampling and optimizing your images, 
by
> the way?
>
> DavidF
>
> "gfish29" <gfish29@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:E5B9990A-939E-46F6-BBDA-C8529E2B610F@microsoft.com... 
> is 
> have 
> have 
> that. 
> images 
> elaborate 
> that 
> load 
> viewing a 
> you 
> load 
> looked 
> of 
> bit 
> them, 
> comment 
> results 
> have 
> are to 
> the 
> into 
> but it 
> but 
> it 
> generally 
> compress 
> When 
> time 
> with 
>
>