Does Paint Shop Pro contain spyware as Photo Album appears to? I recently
downloaded and installed Corel Photo Album  from the Corel web site. Upon
installation, I noticed that Photo Album periodically communicates with
apps.corel.ca. I've asked the question of Corel support as to what is being
sent from my computer in those communications. I did not receive a reply or
acknowledgement to the question. Does anyone here know if Paint Shop Pro
performs the same type of communications when it is started, and if so, do
you know what information from your machine is being sent. I suppose it
could be the names of the files you are working on. It could also be the
actual images you are editing. It could be anything on your machine. The
fact is that I / we don't know because it's not documented, and they will
not answer the question.
Here's an example from my router:

WallReViewer - as of 1/15/2006 11:19:55 AM Eastern Standard Time (Timestamps
are UTC)
Date       Time        Dir Prot Rem IP Addr     Remote Name
R Port Lcl IP Addr     L Port Other/Msgs
2006/01/15 15:44:53    O   tcp  216.191.232.90  apps.corel.ca
80     10.33.90.10     1142
2006/01/15 15:44:54    O   tcp  216.191.232.90  apps.corel.ca
80     10.33.90.10     1144
2006/01/15 15:44:54    O   tcp  84.53.144.150
80     10.33.90.10     1145
2006/01/15 15:44:55    O   tcp  84.53.144.150
80     10.33.90.10     1146
2006/01/15 15:44:55    O   tcp  84.53.144.150
80     10.33.90.10     1147
2006/01/15 15:45:00    O   tcp  216.191.232.90  apps.corel.ca
80     10.33.90.10     1148

"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:G1xyf.136754$k76.51354@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> Does Paint Shop Pro contain spyware as Photo Album appears to? I recently
> downloaded and installed Corel Photo Album  from the Corel web site. Upon
> installation, I noticed that Photo Album periodically communicates with
> apps.corel.ca. I've asked the question of Corel support as to what is
> being sent from my computer in those communications. I did not receive a
> reply or acknowledgement to the question. Does anyone here know if Paint
> Shop Pro performs the same type of communications when it is started, and
> if so, do you know what information from your machine is being sent. I
> suppose it could be the names of the files you are working on. It could
> also be the actual images you are editing. It could be anything on your
> machine. The fact is that I / we don't know because it's not documented,
> and they will not answer the question.
> Here's an example from my router:
>
> WallReViewer - as of 1/15/2006 11:19:55 AM Eastern Standard Time
> (Timestamps are UTC)
> Date       Time        Dir Prot Rem IP Addr     Remote Name R Port Lcl IP
> Addr     L Port Other/Msgs
> 2006/01/15 15:44:53    O   tcp  216.191.232.90  apps.corel.ca 80
> 10.33.90.10     1142
> 2006/01/15 15:44:54    O   tcp  216.191.232.90  apps.corel.ca 80
> 10.33.90.10     1144
> 2006/01/15 15:44:54    O   tcp  84.53.144.150 80     10.33.90.10     1145
> 2006/01/15 15:44:55    O   tcp  84.53.144.150 80     10.33.90.10     1146
> 2006/01/15 15:44:55    O   tcp  84.53.144.150 80     10.33.90.10     1147
> 2006/01/15 15:45:00    O   tcp  216.191.232.90  apps.corel.ca 80
> 10.33.90.10     1148

My Psp or Pspa does not and I have the updates manager in control center
Diabled.

Trev wrote:
> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:G1xyf.136754$k76.51354@bignews6.bellsouth.net... 
[snip example]
>
> My Psp or Pspa does not and I have the updates manager in
> control center Disabled.

Further to Trev's suggestion, PSP attempts periodically to make
contact in order to offer you the chance to register the product
until you have done so or until you tell it not to.

I do not like software calling home any more than you do, but
without more evidence than you present here, any allegation of
spyware is pretty thin. I don't run PSPA, but it probably uses the
InstallShield Update Manager like PSP. Try disabling that and
completing the registration process, then see if the calls home
cease. Auto-update does not work well anyway; you can uninstall the
Update Manager per
http://consumer.installshield.com/kb.asp?id=Q111006 and check for
updates on your own.
--
Fred Hiltz,  fhiltz at yahoo dot com

Bob wrote:

> Does Paint Shop Pro contain spyware as Photo Album appears to? I recently
> downloaded and installed Corel Photo Album  from the Corel web site. Upon
> installation, I noticed that Photo Album periodically communicates with
> apps.corel.ca.


Yes, avoid it. Corel has Dell Computers adding this spyware software,
that tends to wake-up firewall protection, to their computers.


I've asked the question of Corel support as to what is being
> sent from my computer in those communications. I did not receive a reply o
r
> acknowledgement to the question. Does anyone here know if Paint Shop Pro
> performs the same type of communications when it is started, and if so, do
> you know what information from your machine is being sent. I suppose it
> could be the names of the files you are working on. It could also be the
> actual images you are editing. It could be anything on your machine. The
> fact is that I / we don't know because it's not documented, and they will
> not answer the question.
> Here's an example from my router:
>
> WallReViewer - as of 1/15/2006 11:19:55 AM Eastern Standard Time (Timestam
ps
> are UTC)
> Date       Time        Dir Prot Rem IP Addr     Remote Name
> R Port Lcl IP Addr     L Port Other/Msgs
> 2006/01/15 15:44:53    O   tcp  216.191.232.90  apps.corel.ca
> 80     10.33.90.10     1142
> 2006/01/15 15:44:54    O   tcp  216.191.232.90  apps.corel.ca
> 80     10.33.90.10     1144
> 2006/01/15 15:44:54    O   tcp  84.53.144.150
> 80     10.33.90.10     1145
> 2006/01/15 15:44:55    O   tcp  84.53.144.150
> 80     10.33.90.10     1146
> 2006/01/15 15:44:55    O   tcp  84.53.144.150
> 80     10.33.90.10     1147
> 2006/01/15 15:45:00    O   tcp  216.191.232.90  apps.corel.ca
> 80     10.33.90.10     1148
>
>

Uni on 15/01/2006 wrote:
 
>
>
>Yes, avoid it. Corel has Dell Computers adding this spyware software, that
>tends to wake-up firewall protection, to their computers.

Lier!

--
Rob

http://www.flickr.com/photos/canopus_archives/

In message <431iedF1ld5fsU1@individual.net>, Canopus
<BNRAGMAOKKXT@spammotel.com> writes
>Uni on 15/01/2006 wrote:
> 
>
>Lier!
>
Or even 'Liar!' ... isn't our favourite rectal cavity laying itself open
to legal action by Corel by publishing statements of this nature? Not to
mention Dell?

Go get it, chaps!
--
Chris Hughes
"Reality is that which, when you cease to believe, continues to exist."
http://www.epicure.demon.co.uk

Bob wrote:
> Does Paint Shop Pro contain spyware as Photo Album appears to?
<snip>

You should have a firewall that controls both incoming and outgoing traffic.
  Windows XP
firewall doesnt control outgoing traffic.  Zone Alarm is free from zonelabs.
com for
individual users.  There are also packages you pay for from Symantec and oth
ers that are
easier to set up.

The Major wrote:
> In message <431iedF1ld5fsU1@individual.net>, Canopus
> <BNRAGMAOKKXT@spammotel.com> writes 
> Or even 'Liar!' ... isn't our favourite rectal cavity laying itself
> open to legal action by Corel by publishing statements of this
> nature? Not to mention Dell?
>
> Go get it, chaps!

Not only from Corel and Dell. Quite probably he has committed a federal
offence too. See http://www.out-law.com/page-6521 which says in part (in
an article published on January 10th):-
" President Bush last week approved a new law that creates a federal
offence out of sending an anonymous email or posting anonymous comments
with the intention of annoying the recipient. It carries a maximum
punishment of two years in prison and a fine."
So it would appear that he is free to post his twisted bits of malice
under his real name, but he's breaking the law if he continues to do so
under the alias of "Uni". Of course if he did use his real name, it
might prove to be anything but free... successful legal action by those
that he slanders might prove very costly indeed. Not that he's liable to
stop because his malice has always exceeded his intelligence (and I
suspect his shoe size exceeds his intelligence). But he might have to
stop if he gets caught... prisons tend to limit internet access, and his
new role as his cellmate's love interest might take up much of his spare
time.

--
Tim

"Tim" <timmorr64@XremoveXhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:WgXyf.103084$Zp.64138@fe08.news.easynews.com...
> The Major wrote: 
>
> Not only from Corel and Dell. Quite probably he has committed a federal
> offence too. See http://www.out-law.com/page-6521 which says in part (in
> an article published on January 10th):-
> " President Bush last week approved a new law that creates a federal
> offence out of sending an anonymous email or posting anonymous comments
> with the intention of annoying the recipient. It carries a maximum
> punishment of two years in prison and a fine."
> So it would appear that he is free to post his twisted bits of malice
> under his real name, but he's breaking the law if he continues to do so
> under the alias of "Uni". Of course if he did use his real name, it
> might prove to be anything but free... successful legal action by those
> that he slanders might prove very costly indeed. Not that he's liable to
> stop because his malice has always exceeded his intelligence (and I
> suspect his shoe size exceeds his intelligence). But he might have to
> stop if he gets caught... prisons tend to limit internet access, and his
> new role as his cellmate's love interest might take up much of his spare
> time.
>
You wish!
I'll bet you all the tea in China that the gubmint will never lift a finger
to Uni. He just isn't worth the trouble. Anyone who has a minimum of two
functioning brain cells and who reads more than one of his posts will
realize just how big a twit Uni really is. I will admit though, it's a
pleasant diversion once in a while to go Uni bashing, especially when things
are slow. He is so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Cliff

CJ wrote:
 
> You wish!
> I'll bet you all the tea in China that the gubmint will never lift a
> finger to Uni. He just isn't worth the trouble. Anyone who has a
> minimum of two functioning brain cells and who reads more than one of
> his posts will realize just how big a twit Uni really is. I will
> admit though, it's a pleasant diversion once in a while to go Uni
> bashing, especially when things are slow. He is so easy it's like
> shooting fish in a barrel.
>
> Cliff

That's a shame... Big Bubba in cell 273 was so looking forward to it.

--
Tim