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Re: A simpler alternative to Illustrator?
 

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Old Post  02-01-04 - 09:28 AM  
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> I have had a good look at Illustrator and its Help files. As a result I am > not prepared to put myself through what appears to be its tortuous learnin g > curve. All I am hoping to create is very basic surface drawings showing a > few items such as trenches, shafts, roads etc for archaeological reports. > Does anyone know of a SIMPLE TO USE alternative and inexpensive programme ? > I am constantly amazed at how poor the help files are for so many software > programmes. Or it it just me? > Any advice would be appreciated. Chris > >


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Old Post  02-01-04 - 10:28 AM  
Use Microsoft Paint or the Mac equivalent. It comes with your OS. It's not
idiot proof but close.

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> I have had a good look at Illustrator and its Help files. As a result I am > not prepared to put myself through what appears to be its tortuous
learning
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> curve. All I am hoping to create is very basic surface drawings showing a > few items such as trenches, shafts, roads etc for archaeological reports. > Does anyone know of a SIMPLE TO USE alternative and inexpensive
programme?
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> I am constantly amazed at how poor the help files are for so many software > programmes. Or it it just me? > Any advice would be appreciated. Chris > >


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Old Post  02-01-04 - 04:28 PM  
If you plan to scale (re-size) your drawings, you will need to use a vector
program like Illy or Draw. If you are doing simple drawings, you don't need
to learn all the stuff in Illy. Just what you want. I don't think there is
anyone that knows all the stuff in either program. There is just too much.
How much time are you willing to spend on learning? A few hours may be all
you need depending on your background and needs. There are many excellent
free tutorials on the 'net. We can help to solve some problems too.

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> I have had a good look at Illustrator and its Help files. As a result I am > not prepared to put myself through what appears to be its tortuous
learning
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> curve. All I am hoping to create is very basic surface drawings showing a > few items such as trenches, shafts, roads etc for archaeological reports. > Does anyone know of a SIMPLE TO USE alternative and inexpensive
programme?
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> I am constantly amazed at how poor the help files are for so many software > programmes. Or it it just me? > Any advice would be appreciated. Chris > >


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Old Post  02-01-04 - 05:28 PM  
Hi,
I just saw Coreldraw 9 OEM for $39.00 here:
http://www.antivirusovernight.com/M...ate=gcoreldraw9
You can pick up the manual on Ebay or in a bookstore.
Peter Cowie
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> I have had a good look at Illustrator and its Help files. As a result I am > not prepared to put myself through what appears to be its tortuous
learning
quote:
> curve. All I am hoping to create is very basic surface drawings showing a > few items such as trenches, shafts, roads etc for archaeological reports. > Does anyone know of a SIMPLE TO USE alternative and inexpensive
programme?
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> I am constantly amazed at how poor the help files are for so many software > programmes. Or it it just me? > Any advice would be appreciated. Chris > >


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Old Post  02-01-04 - 06:28 PM  
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> I have had a good look at Illustrator and its Help files. As a result > I am not prepared to put myself through what appears to be its > tortuous learning curve. All I am hoping to create is very basic > surface drawings showing a few items such as trenches, shafts, roads > etc for archaeological reports. Does anyone know of a SIMPLE TO USE > alternative and inexpensive programme? I am constantly amazed at how > poor the help files are for so many software programmes. Or it it > just me? > Any advice would be appreciated. Chris
If you don't need vector output (like eps or ai), try this one: http://www.mediachance.com/realdraw/index.html Not a competiton to Illustrator in any way, but I've found it actually fun to use. At $55.00, it's cheap also.


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Old Post  02-01-04 - 08:29 PM  
Try Xara. Very user friendly. I beleive there's a free trial.
http://www.xara.com/products/xarax/
PaintShop Pro also has a free trial. It has decent vector tools and is user
friendly.
http://www.jasc.com
Macromedia's Freehand is also a good vector program. If you don't care for
Adobe's interface, you may like Macromedia's.

Illustrator does have a very steep learning curve. If you do professional
design, it's more than worth the effort.

laurak@madmousergraphics.com
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Old Post  02-01-04 - 08:29 PM  
<snip> If you do professional design, it's more than worth the effort.</snip
>

I agree....my obsessive love affair with Photoshop has turned to a average m
arriage; still sleeping
the same bed but it is mostly a book and flannel pajamas.

Now, Illustrator has become my muse and igniting a fire seemingly long forgo
tten.  :)




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Old Post  02-02-04 - 03:28 PM  
Stick with it chris, I remember the first time I had to use Illustrator - my
company would never dream of paying for any form of training so I had to
figure out how to tweak the jobs that came in and eventually learn how to do
things starting from an empty artboard. That was a godawful steep learning
curve with, the boss breathing down my neck and hassling me. Nowadays I find
using Illustrator a dream and all my hard work has paid off with me using it
for so many different tasks.

Matt
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> I have had a good look at Illustrator and its Help files. As a result I am > not prepared to put myself through what appears to be its tortuous
learning
quote:
> curve. All I am hoping to create is very basic surface drawings showing a > few items such as trenches, shafts, roads etc for archaeological reports. > Does anyone know of a SIMPLE TO USE alternative and inexpensive
programme?
quote:
> I am constantly amazed at how poor the help files are for so many software > programmes. Or it it just me? > Any advice would be appreciated. Chris > >


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Old Post  02-02-04 - 04:28 PM  
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>I have had a good look at Illustrator and its Help files. As a result I am >not prepared to put myself through what appears to be its tortuous learning >curve. All I am hoping to create is very basic surface drawings showing a >few items such as trenches, shafts, roads etc for archaeological reports. >Does anyone know of a SIMPLE TO USE alternative and inexpensive programme? >I am constantly amazed at how poor the help files are for so many software >programmes. Or it it just me? >Any advice would be appreciated. Chris >
There are plenty of books around for teaching Illustrator, they are not that expensive, take a look at Amazon. In reply to your question try looking at Serif DrawPlus 7. Stuart


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Old Post  02-02-04 - 05:28 PM  
Many thanks to all who so kindly offered advice. Very helpful. I'll think
long & hard before choosing.
Much appreciated. Chris.




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