Further to Steve's post I took a look to see what he meant.

Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims

"makes it easy for professional web developers to build high impact
sites that reach the widest possible audience, while ensuring a
Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their browser
settings and system capabilities"

so I was most amused (sic) that in my non-full screen Browser window
their site scrolls.

Perhaps they should like to be taught about web design ? (Check the
source code. Fixed width and convoluted nested tables used for
layout).

Matt

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comments@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert) wrote:

> Further to Steve's post I took a look to see what he meant.
>
> Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims
>
> "makes it easy for professional web developers to build high impact
> sites that reach the widest possible audience, while ensuring a
> Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their browser
> settings and system capabilities"
>
> so I was most amused (sic) that in my non-full screen Browser window
> their site scrolls.
>
> Perhaps they should like to be taught about web design ? (Check the
> source code. Fixed width and convoluted nested tables used for
> layout).

Look at their list of customers. Ain't it fun that people who don't worry
too much have all the big customers?

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Matt Probert wrote:

> Further to Steve's post I took a look to see what he meant.
>
> Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims
>
> "makes it easy for professional web developers to build high impact
> sites that reach the widest possible audience, while ensuring a
> Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their browser
> settings and system capabilities"
>
> so I was most amused (sic) that in my non-full screen Browser window
> their site scrolls.
>
> Perhaps they should like to be taught about web design ? (Check the
> source code. Fixed width and convoluted nested tables used for
> layout).
>


I went to the order page and got this:

<quote>
Unsupported browser type

Your web browser is: Konqueror. This order system requires an IE, Netscape,
Opera, Mozilla, Safari, or Firefox browser. Please return to this page
using one of these supported browsers.
</quote>


Absolutely hilarious.



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comments@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert) wrote in
<news:43b0e5bc.62800843@news.ntlworld.com>:

> Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims
>
> "makes it easy for professional web developers to build high impact
> sites that reach the widest possible audience, while ensuring a
> Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their browser
> settings and system capabilities"

That text is exactly where the page looks the worst in my browser.

<http://www.cotse.net/users/putty/images/browserhawk.png>

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:34:58 +0000, Brian Wakem <no@email.com> wrote:

> Matt Probert wrote:
> 
>
>
> I went to the order page and got this:
>
> <quote>
> Unsupported browser type
>
> Your web browser is: Konqueror. This order system requires an IE, Netscape
,
> Opera, Mozilla, Safari, or Firefox browser. Please return to this page
> using one of these supported browsers.
> </quote>
>
>
> Absolutely hilarious.

Magic!

"Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their
browser" so long as it's a contemporary, mainstream Windows browser!

Matt

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On 27 Dec 2005 07:42:49 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:

> Look at their list of customers. Ain't it fun that people who don't worry
> too much have all the big customers?

Did you contact the "customers" to establish if they really are
customers? A lot of companies falsely claim patronage from others to
promote themselves.

Matt

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Matt Probert wrote:

> Further to Steve's post I took a look to see what he meant.
>
> Anyway, this Browserhawk (http://www.cyscape.com) claims

"Accurately detects every visitor's browser and system settings"

Heh. It only reads the UA string. I am *not* using a Mac. What a sham.
An expensive sham.

> Perhaps they should like to be taught about web design ? (Check the
> source code. Fixed width and convoluted nested tables used for
> layout).

Soooo many web design companies have no clue. The main page:

<http://validator.w3.org/check?verbo.../>
%3Fbhjs%3D0>
"Failed validation, 42 errors"
..and the CSS validator chokes.

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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Matt Probert wrote:

> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:34:58 +0000, Brian Wakem <no@email.com> wrote:
> 
>
> Magic!
>
> "Flawless Web Experience for every visitor regardless of their
> browser" so long as it's a contemporary, mainstream Windows browser!

They don't like Lynx either.

Norman, wondering if he should try Firefox with it set to fake Lynx.  :)
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comments@probertencyclopaedia.com (Matt Probert) wrote:

> On 27 Dec 2005 07:42:49 GMT, John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:
> 
>
> Did you contact the "customers" to establish if they really are
> customers? A lot of companies falsely claim patronage from others to
> promote themselves.

If they are lying, they do have a lot of coverage:
<http://www.google.com/search?q=browserhawk>

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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.invalid> wrote:


> Soooo many web design companies have no clue. The main page:

But how many of those clueless have customers, even big customers?

It worries me now and then :-D.

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