I've renewed my domain name with them and suddenly They locked the
name!
Why?becouse they thought(!) it was a stolen credit card.

After they find out they were wrong -they said : a simple
misunderstaning happened-they just asked me $15 more for putting it
back into good state!

I paid the price and everything seemd to be normal for one day but
I -just for curiosity- filled a complain with bbb.org about this
matter.

And now becouse of that complain they send me an email that we didnt
recieved your previous permission our email has changed -which is
wrong- please send it to this new address and becouse you have filled a
complain we now require $200 not $15.

So what do you think?

I think the best thing consumer can do is not doing bussines with them.
So dont do any bussines with gkg.net as they are the worst registrar.
And just remember never fill anything with bbb.org they just make
things worse!

regards

roozbeh wrote:

> So what do you think?

First, I'd transfer my domain(s) out of there ASAP. Choose a more
established registrar this time. I've been working with eNom for a
couple of years and I have no complaints, but I'm sure there are other
good ones.
Second, once you're safe, take the matter further with BBB, ICANN,
and if you're in the US, you can probably take it with some other
organizations as well. If the matter gets ugly and they won't give up
the domain, you could take it to court.

http://reports.internic.net/cgi/reg...blem-report.cgi

On 22 Dec 2005 00:28:33 -0800, "roozbeh" <roozbehid@XXXXXXXXXX> posted
something that included:

>I think the best thing consumer can do is not doing bussines with them.
>So dont do any bussines with gkg.net as they are the worst registrar.
>And just remember never fill anything with bbb.org they just make
>things worse!

And the worst thing someone can do is believe stories from anonymous
users of throwaway email accounts when the stories don't make sense.

For using a spurious credit card number to buy a domain name, you
should go to prison.

If you cause a registrar to buy a domain name that he can't sell, you
*can* buy if from his inventory - but he needs to charge extra to
cover the cost of *other* domain names in his inventory ordered with
spurious credit cards. Paying $20 for a domain name is not outrageous.
A few years ago, it cost $100 to get a new domain name - and it is
still $35 with some registrars.

If you want to redeem an expired domain name, it's expensive. The $200
price you were quoted is fairly competitive.

If you have a dispute over a credit card purchase, your proper
response is to file a complaint with the credit card company. Of
course, if you use a spurious credit card in the first place, you
don't have that option.

Filing a false report with the BBB or posting a packet of lies to
usenet, even if they are so transparent as yours, is a matter of
criminal commercial libel. It's not just a lawsuit; you can go to
prison for this.

You're not providing ANY details that could substantiate your story
because you don't want anyone investigating it, and showing you wrong.
Do you think everyone on usenet is *stupid*?

Your reprehensible behavior reflects poorly on your mother.








--
If we're losing 40-130 species a day,
How come nobody can itemize them?
And why can't fruitflies be one of them?

Hi ironcito

Thanks
I try to do all legal stuffs.


Hi Paul..
I am glad peaple of gkg are also reading usenets!And hooow logical they
are all just like the company they work for.

And also please watch your tongue!

I am very impressed with these lots of informations you have and how
quickly figured out i am a lier!! 
1.
Who said i was using a spurios card?!
I was using my friends credit card -becouse i dont have one -with his
accurate permission -which i can also approve becouse he is sending all
those mails to that company-.And with multiple times he wrote them it
was with my full permission.
For misleading ppl on usenet where should ppl go?

2.
They said "we misunderstanded you" and so we will give you back domain
name with just more $15.-see the very competetive price is $15!!-
If they were innocent-as you would like to believe-nothing would happen
when i complained them at bbb.
But after complaining now they need your competetive price ($200).
 
3.
Who said i filled a false BBB report?!Do have any more informaton to
enlighthen us?
It was very true,but i am afraid they might obvously working for you
too!!

4.
How do you know these are lies?
Do you know anything more than that i've posted or...?!
 
5.
I am providing enough information anybody can see that -i know,not you-
and also i will be glad to put them  all on internet.And obviously
thats all i am willing to do.
Just name what you call "details" and i will fill here and all the net
with more details!
 
6.
Believe me,i never thought anybody on usenet is stupid,but i do believe
those guys working for companies like gkg and posting on usenets with
that language are really stupid!
 
7.
Why are you really that angry?I have unfairly lost my domain name.I am
not that angry!I am just laughing at how stupid ppl like you can be.


8.
And really thanks for your post now peaple really understand how
companies like gkg talk with them after doing some complains.
They talk about their moms on usenet!! :)) Wooow what a great method!


9.
And not threathening that much about prison will do any good!
Or if beside talking about moms thats you another costumer method!!
But i do believe they should put ppl like you in jail becouse of
misleading posts in usenet and posting bunchs of craps,nonsenses!
Why dont you tell us how you know this much informations.If you are
working for gkg.net you should at least tell!
And if not please be more logical!
Maybe you are again "misunderstanding things".

10.
And sorry about my english.Please dont "misunderstand" it.English is
just not my mother language!

regards
roozbeh

>>And the worst thing someone can do is believe stories from anonymous 

Besides can you enlighten me why am i anonymous?
Are you anonymouse?What users are called anonymouse?

For example why you are not anonymouse?Really...
I think the answer is simple becouse you just know yourselfs!
One day Paul ding wakes up and looked at mirror :
hmmm...this is paul ding how can i be anonymouse...but
roozbeh?rozbeh?rzb?no i never heard of him...so he doesnt exist..he IS
anonymouse....Everybody in the world knows me..i have a website; he
doesnt..
I work at gkg.net-which is obviously the only company in earth- he
doesnt...
So thats the reason i am anonymouse and he is not!!
Long-live paul ding

perfect story!

"roozbeh" <roozbehid@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message
news:1135240113.063945.224310@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I've renewed my domain name with them and suddenly They locked the
> name!
> Why?becouse they thought(!) it was a stolen credit card.
>
> After they find out they were wrong -they said : a simple
> misunderstaning happened-they just asked me $15 more for putting it
> back into good state!

I would expect most hosts to confirm that a credit card payment had been
authorised before doing any work on the back of it, so I'm a little
surprised that this situation has arisen.

Whose mistake was it? Yours, the credit card company's or the gkg.net's?

If it was your mistake then its reasonable that they charge you. (May be not
the $200 you said, but the $15.)

If it was gkg.net's mistake then you shouldn't have been charged.

If it was the credit card's company then I'm not sure - but it would be
worth contacting them about it.

--
Brian Cryer (IANAL)
www.cryer.co.uk/brian

Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the http://groups.google.com cafeteria
roozbeh <roozbehid@XXXXXXXXXX> said:

> why am i anonymous?

choice?

The use of a web interface doesn't usually engender an air of authenticity.

--
William Tasso

Save the drama
for your Mama.

Ok..
Thanks for telling me that!
but i've always used google becouse it makes every usenet accessible
and have archive of any posts!

I really thought everyone else was using it too.

regards

Writing in news:alt.www.webmaster
From the safety of the http://groups.google.com cafeteria
roozbeh <roozbehid@XXXXXXXXXX> said:

> Ok..
> Thanks for telling me that!

np

> but i've always used google becouse it makes every usenet accessible

are you sure it does that?

> and have archive of any posts!

well, most of them

> I really thought everyone else was using it too.

niet - only for searching the archive when desirable (for which it is an
excellent tool).

most folk use a real newsreader connected to a real news-server.  I urge
you to do the same - it's the real thing.

--
William Tasso

Save the drama
for your Mama.

On 22 Dec 2005 04:20:21 -0800, "roozbeh" <roozbehid@XXXXXXXXXX> posted
something that included:

>I am glad peaple of gkg are also reading usenets!And hooow logical they
>are all just like the company they work for.

I do not work for GKG, not now, nor ever in the past. I have never
done business with them at all. They are a competitor as I am a
reseller for DirectI and Enom.

>I am very impressed with these lots of informations you have and how
>quickly figured out i am a lier!!

It wasn't difficult. You made it very obvious.
 
>Who said i was using a spurios card?!

YOU DID. You claimed they thought it was stolen. The only reason they
would think that is because you don't know the information that any
legitimate card owner would know, such as the exact name printed on
the card, the billing address for the card, and the CVC value.

>I was using my friends credit card

And now you *admit* that you were using a card which wasn't yours. Did
you have the permission of the credit card company? No. And that
legally is fraud.

>They said "we misunderstanded you" and so we will give you back domain
>name with just more $15.-see the very competetive price is $15!!-
>If they were innocent-as you would like to believe-nothing would happen
>when i complained them at bbb.
>But after complaining now they need your competetive price ($200).

Sure an interesting story you are coming up with. But you *still*
refuse to identify who you are, the name of the domain you were trying
to register, who you were dealing with.

On the other hand, their terms of service are clearly stated on their
website. In order to buy a domain name from them, you were required to
agree to their TOS, and you really need to pay the fees you've piled
up. It's the only honest thing to do.

You - and GKG - play by the same rules as everybody else. If you don't
pay for a domain name in a timely fashion, it goes into the redemption
period, during which time it is quite costly to renew the domain. In
the case of GKG, it's $200. On the other hand, you are the only one
that can buy the domain name during that period. If you wait 60 days,
it will go into "pending deletion" for another 5 days or so. Once
"pending deletion" is over, then anyone can buy the domain name
through any registrar.
 
>Who said i filled a false BBB report?!Do have any more informaton to
>enlighthen us?

OK, tell us what information you used in filing a report with the BBB,
so we can determine whether you stated that you fraudulently were
using someone else's credit card to buy a domain name. My guess is
that you omitted that choice detail - and I've been pretty good about
these guesses so far, as you have admitted.

>How do you know these are lies?
>Do you know anything more than that i've posted or...?!

How could I possibly know anything more than what you've posted? You
provided *no* details.  For all anyone knows, you are the "other
woman" in GKG's life, and you're POed that he's gone back to his wife.
Or maybe GKG is a woman, or maybe he's gay, and he went back to his
boyfriend. The only things that are certain is that you're POed at GKG
and you're not being truthful.
 

>I am providing enough information anybody can see that -i know,not you-
>and also i will be glad to put them  all on internet.And obviously
>thats all i am willing to do.
>Just name what you call "details" and i will fill here and all the net
>with more details!

Gee, would it be too much to provide the domain name you were trying
to register?

Would it be too much to provide the contact information you are
required to provide as a requirement for registering a domain?

Would it be too much to provide the contact information for the person
whose credit card you were fraudulently using?

Would it be too much to provide that email address you claim that they
stopped using, just in order to make your life miserable?

Would it be possible to post copies of your correspondence, both to
and from?

The *ONLY* information you're providing is the name of GKG and BBB,
both of which you're unhappy with. Why are you insisting on remaining
anonymous?
 
>Believe me,i never thought anybody on usenet is stupid,but i do believe
>those guys working for companies like gkg and posting on usenets with
>that language are really stupid!

What language? Words like "reprehensible", and "criminal" and "libel"?

>Why are you really that angry?I have unfairly lost my domain name.I am
>not that angry!I am just laughing at how stupid ppl like you can be.

YOUR domain name?  It's not yours until you pay for it.

>And really thanks for your post now peaple really understand how
>companies like gkg talk with them after doing some complains.
>They talk about their moms on usenet!! :)) Wooow what a great method!

You're engaged in criminal fraud, and criminal libel, but it's *my*
fault that you are disgracing your mother?

>And not threathening that much about prison will do any good!
>Or if beside talking about moms thats you another costumer method!!
>But i do believe they should put ppl like you in jail becouse of
>misleading posts in usenet and posting bunchs of craps,nonsenses!
>Why dont you tell us how you know this much informations.If you are
>working for gkg.net you should at least tell!
>And if not please be more logical!
>Maybe you are again "misunderstanding things".

I know that information from reading between the lines of your post.
The fact that you're complaining that I have correct information
indicates that you aren't as good a liar as you think.

And how would anyone from GKG possibly be able to identify you? You're
provided *zero* identifying details, and you are surely not the only
criminal they've dealt with lately.

For the record, I do not assert GKG is a company of great integrity
and character; I cannot do that for I am quite unfamiliar with them.
It's hard in this business, though, much harder than in many
businesses, to find a company that is both competent and trustworthy.

But my judgment was based not on *their* reputation, but upon your
vague, unsupported, and highly suspicious claims.

>And sorry about my english.Please dont "misunderstand" it.English is
>just not my mother language!

I find no fault with your English. It's your morals I object to.

--
If we're losing 40-130 species a day,
How come nobody can itemize them?
And why can't fruitflies be one of them?