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Rod Speed




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Old Post  09-26-05 - 08:19 AM  
I'm setting up a simple web site for someone who is trying to flog
something with quite a few photos of what is being flogged etc.

I've registered a .com domain, basically to give a simple
web site name that can be spelt out over the phone easily
and put in print mag ads so its easy to enter the name.

I've done that with godaddy and am doing the setup using zoneedit.

The site is hosted on his ISP's website,
with the usual awkward name that produces.

I want to cloak the ISP's url so that simple users dont get confused
and so bookmarks work properly using the domain name.

That works fine when the zoneedit WebForward is used when the
entry isnt cloaked. Doesnt work when cloaked, the home page works
fine, but the subsidiary pages dont. The subsidiary pages are all in
folder called index_files in the Page368.htm style. When you click
on a link on the home page, you see the index_files/Page368.htm
showing in the status bar in the bottom of IE, and get a white page
with nothing on it.

Its undesirable to structure the files on the web site differently,
essentially because I want him to be able to edit the web site
and update it himself, once I have set everything up for him.
He uses Publisher, basically because he does quite a bit of work
in that already and so its easiest to use that for the web site too.

Am I forgetting something very basic in the zoneedit setup ?




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Colin ®




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Old Post  09-26-05 - 08:19 AM  
"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The site is hosted on his ISP's website,
> with the usual awkward name that produces.

I don't get that bit.

If he has a domain of "rodsmate.com" and he has his ISP host it, it should
be www.rodsmate.com

Has he actually delegated the domain to his ISP? I have one in the org.au
range delegated and hosted and that's how it looks.





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Gregory Toomey




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Old Post  09-26-05 - 08:19 AM  
Rod Speed wrote:

> I'm setting up a simple web site for someone who is trying to flog
> something with quite a few photos of what is being flogged etc.
>
...
> Am I forgetting something very basic in the zoneedit setup ?

I've done similar & it never seems to work properly.

You could try the free offer from affordable host:
http://www.affordablehost.com/cpanel.shtml

You can get hosting for a few $$ per month.

gtoomey


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Gregory Toomey




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Colin ® wrote:

> If he has a domain of "rodsmate.com" and he has his ISP host it, it should
> be www.rodsmate.com

Rod's talking about cloaking
http://www.webreference.com/authori...gines/cloaking/

gtoomey


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Rod Speed




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Colin ® <tobyjug7@yahoo.com.au> wrote
> Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
 

> I don't get that bit.

> If he has a domain of "rodsmate.com" and he has his ISP host it, it should
 be
> www.rodsmate.com

He has the free web site that his ISP provides with the usual
rather awkward url of www.ispsname.com.au/~rodsmate/

> Has he actually delegated the domain to his ISP?

No, because that aint free.

> I have one in the org.au range delegated and hosted and that's how it looks.[/colo
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Rod Speed




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Gregory Toomey <nobody@bigpond.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
 
> ... 

> I've done similar & it never seems to work properly.

OK, it works fine if not cloaked, and thats just a minor blemish really.

> You could try the free offer from affordable host:
> http://www.affordablehost.com/cpanel.shtml

> You can get hosting for a few $$ per month.

The godaddy and zoneedit route isnt even $10US per year.

I only suggested he had a web site because he was emailing
the photos to those who rang him up and that has some real
downsides since he's still stuck on dialup.

I was really just after a simple and minimal cost was of simplifying
the web site url so it was easy to say over the phone etc and easy
for anyone to enter it from the print mag ad etc. The potential
buyers are all pretty computer illiterate basically.




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Colin ®




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Old Post  09-26-05 - 08:19 AM  
Yep, I see now - never come across it as I have only dealt with delegated
domains.

So much to learn, so little time.

:-)

"Gregory Toomey" <nobody@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Colin ® wrote:
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> Rod's talking about cloaking
> http://www.webreference.com/authori...gines/cloaking/
>
> gtoomey




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Old Post  09-26-05 - 08:19 AM  
Right - I took the 'hosted' to mean hosted in the paid for sense.


"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Colin ® <tobyjug7@yahoo.com.au> wrote 
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> He has the free web site that his ISP provides with the usual
> rather awkward url of www.ispsname.com.au/~rodsmate/
> 
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> No, because that aint free.
> 
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Old Post  09-26-05 - 11:17 AM  
Gregory Toomey <nobody@bigpond.com> wrote
> Colin  wrote
 

> Rod's talking about cloaking
> http://www.webreference.com/authori...gines/cloaking/

Not for those reasons, I just want to keep things simple for the
pretty low level users, so they only see the domain and not the
ISP's complicated url for the web site itself, particularly with
bookmarks and if I choose to put the site somewhere else etc.




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William Tasso




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Old Post  09-26-05 - 11:17 AM  
Writing in news:alt.websites,alt.www.webmaster,aus.computers
From the safety of the  cafeteria
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said:

> ...
> The godaddy and zoneedit route isnt even $10US per year.
>
> I only suggested he had a web site because he was emailing
> the photos to those who rang him up and that has some real
> downsides since he's still stuck on dialup.

He could mail them the URL?  possibly even use http://tinyurl.com

> I was really just after a simple and minimal cost was of simplifying
> the web site url so it was easy to say over the phone etc and easy
> for anyone to enter it from the print mag ad etc.

Well that is the benefit of having a real domain, properly hosted.

> The potential
> buyers are all pretty computer illiterate basically.

really?  would you be will to share the demographic profile or other
characteristic that leads to this summary?

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William Tasso


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