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Old Post  01-09-04 - 10:29 AM  
website for T.S. McHugh's Restaurant and Pub (Seattle, WA, US)
http://www.tsmchughs.com/

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Old Post  01-09-04 - 12:28 PM  
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> website for T.S. McHugh's Restaurant and Pub (Seattle, WA, US) > http://www.tsmchughs.com/
Overall, it looks nice and clean to me. I would prefer the navigation links on the bottom of the pages of restaurant menu items to be horizontal instead of vertical. Or just lose them. leo -- <http://web0.greatbasin.net/~leo/>


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Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
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> Brian wrote: > > > I would prefer the navigation > links on the bottom of the pages of restaurant menu items to be horizontal > instead of vertical.
Thanks for the reply. I'm not 100% sure which navigation you're referring to. There are 2 on the menu pages. One has a heading "other menus," the other, on the bottom does not. However, the bottom one is horizontal (floated left) across the page in some browsers. May I ask what browser you are using? That bottom nav should be horizontal in Moz/Win, IE/Win, Safari/OSX, and Opera/Win. However, IE/Mac 5.x chokes on this code, so I opted for a basic list in that browser.
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> Or just lose them
I've had a hard time picking something that I like for this secondary navigation. That's why there's 2 of them. So I'm especially grateful for feedback on this particular aspect of the site. Thanks very much for your time. -- Brian follow the directions in my address to email me


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> website for T.S. McHugh's Restaurant and Pub (Seattle, WA, US) > http://www.tsmchughs.com/
In my IE6, the green background of the menu cuts off after "help" then when I hover over "help", the background of the menu extends, in green, to below the page height, and I get a vertical scrollbar (I view in 1024x768). When I hover over any of the other links, the menu goes back to how it was. There's a lot of white space on most of the pages so it looks a bit empty - maybe try to use that yellow colour some more? It goes well with the green, IMO. The picture on the front page needs to be resized better - in your graphics application, when resizing choose something like bilinear, bicubic or "smart size" - this will make the smaller image look clearer (see the beer shingles outside - they looked squashed). If it's an Irish-themed pub, then I want to see the Irish theme! Show some pictures of the interior and even some pictures of the food, if possible. For instance, when I clicked on "draughts" on the front page, I expected to see the bar with happy staff standing there, serving me 22 ice cold pints on a warm summer's day, and instead I get a list. Knowing the price of things is good, but I think less emphasis has to be put on financial matters in favour of getting the customers into the establishment to begin with. I hope some of this is of use to you. -- Andrew Cameron "Got my hand on my heart, I know no better location..."


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> Brian wrote: > > > In my IE6, the green background of the menu cuts off after "help"
To some degree, there is nothing I can do about that. I have height of div#navigation set to 100%; it works in Moz, Opera, and Safari (which all do position: fixed in any case), but not in MSIE/Win (which does not do position: fixed. I have MSIE 5.0/Win, where the green extends down the length of the first screen, but no lower. Not ideal, but reasonable. It sounds like IE 6 doesn't even extend it down the length of the first screen. Bummer.
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> then when I hover over "help", the background of the menu extends, > in green, to below the page height, and I get a vertical scrollbar > (I view in 1024x768). When I hover over any of the other links, the > menu goes back to how it was.
Ok, that's weird. I'll have to work on this in a place where I have IE6/Win. (I have IE 5.0/Win on my dev machine.)
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> The picture on the front page needs to be resized better - in your > graphics application, when resizing choose something like bilinear, > bicubic or "smart size" - this will make the smaller image look > clearer (see the beer shingles outside - they looked squashed).
I resized it in MS Photo Editor (gasp!). I just redid it, I'll upload it later this week.
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> Show some pictures of the interior and even some pictures of the > food, if possible.
I wanted to do that, but I don't live in Seattle. I asked for photos, hoping for lots; I got 3, one of which you see on the home page. ;-)
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> For instance, when I clicked on "draughts" on the front page, I > expected to see the bar with happy staff standing there, serving me > 22 ice cold pints on a warm summer's day, and instead I get a list.
I did get a picture of the bar. I put it up for the heck of it, but orphaned the page because it's really a lousy picture, imho. http://www.tsmchughs.com/bar/
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> Knowing the price of things is good, but I think less emphasis has > to be put on financial matters in favour of getting the customers > into the establishment to begin with.
Agreed. My sister says she may head out to Seattle this summer. If she does, she'll take her cameras (she's a professional graphic designer and photographer). That should get me photos of the bar, dining rooms, menu items, beers, etc.
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> I hope some of this is of use to you.
Absolutely. Thanks. -- Brian follow the directions in my address to email me


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Old Post  01-09-04 - 02:29 PM  
In article <_JvLb.5040$5V2.10629@attbi_s53>, Brian
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> May I ask what browser you are using? That bottom nav should be > horizontal in Moz/Win, IE/Win, Safari/OSX, and Opera/Win. However, > IE/Mac 5.x chokes on this code, so I opted for a basic list in that > browser.
Turns out I was using Mac IE5. I see the horizontal bottom navigation in Mac Mozilla. In Opera 5, there is segmenting of white and green areas in the left hand nav menu, but the bottom navigation shows horizontally. Not bad in MacLynx either except I see the nav links twice, once for the left hand nav and once for the bottom nav. I think I'd eliminate the bottom navigation. That's just me. leo -- <http://web0.greatbasin.net/~leo/>


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Brian wrote:
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> Andrew Cameron wrote: > > Ok, that's weird. I'll have to work on this in a place where I have > IE6/Win. (I have IE 5.0/Win on my dev machine.)
I took some screenshots to let you see. When I hover over "help": <http://dumpage.net/tsm/tsm1.jpg> and when I hover over any other link on the menu: <http://dumpage.net/tsm/tsm2.jpg>.
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> > I wanted to do that, but I don't live in Seattle. I asked for photos, > hoping for lots; I got 3, one of which you see on the home page. ;-)
Ah, I see. I've had that before and it's very, very annoying.
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> I did get a picture of the bar. I put it up for the heck of it, but > orphaned the page because it's really a lousy picture, imho. > > http://www.tsmchughs.com/bar/
It looks really nice, but you're right about it being a lousy picture. I think a shot of the bar, taken from the same perspective as the front page outside shot, and a picture of the building taken from the front would be nicer. Easier to work into a site too, IMO. Also, people would be good - right now it seems that if I visited, I'd be the only person there! :-) -- Andrew Cameron "Got my hand on my heart, I know no better location..."


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> website for T.S. McHugh's Restaurant and Pub (Seattle, WA, US) > http://www.tsmchughs.com/ > > -- > Brian > follow the directions in my address to email me >
I think the logo in the top left looks a bit 'rough'... needs cleaned up a bit. Other than that it's a nice simple design. Bob http://www.rawkstar.net


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Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
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> In article <_JvLb.5040$5V2.10629@attbi_s53>, Brian > <usenet2@julietremblay.com.invalid-remove-this-part> wrote: > > > Turns out I was using Mac IE5.
The problem I had is that you must define a width to float a block level container, which, iirc, follows the CSS 2.0 spec. CSS 2.1 was updated to what most browsers were actually doing: allowing float on a box if it didn't require the full width of the window. Those <li> elements only contained one or two words each. Rather than explicitly set a width for IE/Mac, I decided to just hide that particular code from it, and took advantage of the 2.1 implementation in other browsers.
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> I see the horizontal bottom navigation in Mac Mozilla. In Opera 5, > there is segmenting of white and green areas in the left hand nav > menu
It's ok in O7, mind you. I don't have O5. I don't know how much to worry about that browser. Perhaps I'm being pigheaded, but I'd think O5's user base is small, and shrinking in any case because Opera users are, I'd think, more likely to upgrade quickly than, say, MSIE users. In any case, I really can't test it on O5, and I have no idea how to hide css from only that version of the browser.
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> but the bottom navigation shows horizontally. Not bad in MacLynx > either except I see the nav links twice, once for the left hand nav > and once for the bottom nav.
I orginally had only the bottom navigation. The idea of the top left nav (in Moz, O, IE, et al) came to me only a couple of days ago. Both menus are there until I decide for sure which one to eliminate.
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> I think I'd eliminate the bottom navigation. That's just me.
I'm glad to hear that, because I like that one better, too. I asked a sister about it, and she liked the bottom better. Blegh. I'll ask some more, and then kill one or the other. Thanks again for your time. -- Brian follow the directions in my address to email me


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> Brian wrote: > [QUOTE] > I took some screenshots to let you see.
*Very* kind of you. Thanks! :)
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> > Ah, I see. I've had that before and it's very, very annoying.
Yeah, it could really be nice with more photos. But then, I ought to be grateful. The client is perfectly happy with the site as it is. He doesn't even mind the logo, which was pulled from a previous site (a couple pages on someone else's domain). So I'm fortunate to have a client who is so easy to please.
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> > It looks really nice, but you're right about it being a lousy > picture.
Took me a few reads to parse this. The *bar* looks nice, but the picture is lousy. Indeed. I was out there once, several years ago. It *is* a nice bar. I'd like to get a photo of just the taps, among others. I like close, detailed shots. Thanks for your input. -- Brian follow the directions in my address to email me


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