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  01-09-04 - 01:29 PM
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Brian wrote:quote:
> website for T.S. McHugh's Restaurant and Pub (Seattle, WA, US)
> http://www.tsmchughs.com/
In my IE6, the green background of the menu cuts off after "help" then when
I hover over "help", the background of the menu extends, in green, to below
the page height, and I get a vertical scrollbar (I view in 1024x768). When
I hover over any of the other links, the menu goes back to how it was.
There's a lot of white space on most of the pages so it looks a bit empty -
maybe try to use that yellow colour some more? It goes well with the green,
IMO. The picture on the front page needs to be resized better - in your
graphics application, when resizing choose something like bilinear, bicubic
or "smart size" - this will make the smaller image look clearer (see the
beer shingles outside - they looked squashed).
If it's an Irish-themed pub, then I want to see the Irish theme! Show some
pictures of the interior and even some pictures of the food, if possible.
For instance, when I clicked on "draughts" on the front page, I expected to
see the bar with happy staff standing there, serving me 22 ice cold pints on
a warm summer's day, and instead I get a list. Knowing the price of things
is good, but I think less emphasis has to be put on financial matters in
favour of getting the customers into the establishment to begin with.
I hope some of this is of use to you.
--
Andrew Cameron
"Got my hand on my heart, I know no better location..."
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  01-09-04 - 02:29 PM
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Andrew Cameron wrote:quote:
> Brian wrote:
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> In my IE6, the green background of the menu cuts off after "help"
To some degree, there is nothing I can do about that. I have height of
div#navigation set to 100%; it works in Moz, Opera, and Safari (which
all do position: fixed in any case), but not in MSIE/Win (which does
not do position: fixed.
I have MSIE 5.0/Win, where the green extends down the length of the
first screen, but no lower. Not ideal, but reasonable. It sounds like
IE 6 doesn't even extend it down the length of the first screen. Bummer.
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> then when I hover over "help", the background of the menu extends,
> in green, to below the page height, and I get a vertical scrollbar
> (I view in 1024x768). When I hover over any of the other links, the
> menu goes back to how it was.
Ok, that's weird. I'll have to work on this in a place where I have
IE6/Win. (I have IE 5.0/Win on my dev machine.)
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> The picture on the front page needs to be resized better - in your
> graphics application, when resizing choose something like bilinear,
> bicubic or "smart size" - this will make the smaller image look
> clearer (see the beer shingles outside - they looked squashed).
I resized it in MS Photo Editor (gasp!). I just redid it, I'll upload
it later this week.
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> Show some pictures of the interior and even some pictures of the
> food, if possible.
I wanted to do that, but I don't live in Seattle. I asked for photos,
hoping for lots; I got 3, one of which you see on the home page. ;-)
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> For instance, when I clicked on "draughts" on the front page, I
> expected to see the bar with happy staff standing there, serving me
> 22 ice cold pints on a warm summer's day, and instead I get a list.
I did get a picture of the bar. I put it up for the heck of it, but
orphaned the page because it's really a lousy picture, imho.
http://www.tsmchughs.com/bar/
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> Knowing the price of things is good, but I think less emphasis has
> to be put on financial matters in favour of getting the customers
> into the establishment to begin with.
Agreed. My sister says she may head out to Seattle this summer. If she
does, she'll take her cameras (she's a professional graphic designer
and photographer). That should get me photos of the bar, dining rooms,
menu items, beers, etc.
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> I hope some of this is of use to you.
Absolutely. Thanks.
--
Brian
follow the directions in my address to email me
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  01-09-04 - 03:29 PM
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Brian wrote:quote:
> Andrew Cameron wrote:
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> Ok, that's weird. I'll have to work on this in a place where I have
> IE6/Win. (I have IE 5.0/Win on my dev machine.)
I took some screenshots to let you see. When I hover over "help":
<http://dumpage.net/tsm/tsm1.jpg> and when I hover over any other link on
the menu: <http://dumpage.net/tsm/tsm2.jpg>.
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> I wanted to do that, but I don't live in Seattle. I asked for photos,
> hoping for lots; I got 3, one of which you see on the home page. ;-)
Ah, I see. I've had that before and it's very, very annoying.
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> I did get a picture of the bar. I put it up for the heck of it, but
> orphaned the page because it's really a lousy picture, imho.
>
> http://www.tsmchughs.com/bar/
It looks really nice, but you're right about it being a lousy picture. I
think a shot of the bar, taken from the same perspective as the front page
outside shot, and a picture of the building taken from the front would be
nicer. Easier to work into a site too, IMO. Also, people would be good -
right now it seems that if I visited, I'd be the only person there! :-)
--
Andrew Cameron
"Got my hand on my heart, I know no better location..."
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  01-09-04 - 04:30 PM
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Leonard Blaisdell wrote:quote:
> In article <_JvLb.5040$5V2.10629@attbi_s53>, Brian
> <usenet2@julietremblay.com.invalid-remove-this-part> wrote:
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> Turns out I was using Mac IE5.
The problem I had is that you must define a width to float a block
level container, which, iirc, follows the CSS 2.0 spec. CSS 2.1 was
updated to what most browsers were actually doing: allowing float on a
box if it didn't require the full width of the window. Those <li>
elements only contained one or two words each. Rather than explicitly
set a width for IE/Mac, I decided to just hide that particular code
from it, and took advantage of the 2.1 implementation in other browsers.
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> I see the horizontal bottom navigation in Mac Mozilla. In Opera 5,
> there is segmenting of white and green areas in the left hand nav
> menu
It's ok in O7, mind you. I don't have O5. I don't know how much to
worry about that browser. Perhaps I'm being pigheaded, but I'd think
O5's user base is small, and shrinking in any case because Opera users
are, I'd think, more likely to upgrade quickly than, say, MSIE users.
In any case, I really can't test it on O5, and I have no idea how to
hide css from only that version of the browser.
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> but the bottom navigation shows horizontally. Not bad in MacLynx
> either except I see the nav links twice, once for the left hand nav
> and once for the bottom nav.
I orginally had only the bottom navigation. The idea of the top left
nav (in Moz, O, IE, et al) came to me only a couple of days ago.
Both menus are there until I decide for sure which one to eliminate.
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> I think I'd eliminate the bottom navigation. That's just me.
I'm glad to hear that, because I like that one better, too. I asked a
sister about it, and she liked the bottom better. Blegh. I'll ask some
more, and then kill one or the other.
Thanks again for your time.
--
Brian
follow the directions in my address to email me
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  01-09-04 - 04:30 PM
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Andrew Cameron wrote:quote:
> Brian wrote:
>
[QUOTE]
> I took some screenshots to let you see.
*Very* kind of you. Thanks! :)
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> Ah, I see. I've had that before and it's very, very annoying.
Yeah, it could really be nice with more photos. But then, I ought to
be grateful. The client is perfectly happy with the site as it is. He
doesn't even mind the logo, which was pulled from a previous site (a
couple pages on someone else's domain). So I'm fortunate to have a
client who is so easy to please.
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> It looks really nice, but you're right about it being a lousy
> picture.
Took me a few reads to parse this. The *bar* looks nice, but the
picture is lousy. Indeed. I was out there once, several years ago. It
*is* a nice bar. I'd like to get a photo of just the taps, among
others. I like close, detailed shots.
Thanks for your input.
--
Brian
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