Choices for decent 21+" CRTs are down to just a few models.
I see one still available from NEC, and two each from Samsung
and Philips.

So now that shit LCDs have been forced down our throats, what
options do professional graphic editors have, besides plunking
down several thousand dollars to buy high-end LCDs which have
almost-equivalent color gamut?  Are cruddy, noisy images with
incorrect color just a fact of life now in this digital age?

"Pete R" <nospam4me@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Choices for decent 21+" CRTs are down to just a few models.
> I see one still available from NEC, and two each from Samsung
> and Philips.
>
> So now that shit LCDs have been forced down our throats, what
> options do professional graphic editors have, besides plunking
> down several thousand dollars to buy high-end LCDs which have
> almost-equivalent color gamut?  Are cruddy, noisy images with
> incorrect color just a fact of life now in this digital age?

There are lower cost LCD monitors that compete very favorably with their CRT
counterparts.  One that is high on my list is the Dell 1704FPT, which
supports digital inputs, costs under $300, and competes favorably with any
CRT.  Viewsonic, Panasonic, Sony, and others all have products coming that
will blow everyone away.

Face it, the technology is changing all the time.  This happens every time a
new technology sweeps away an old one -vinyl/CD, film/digital, etc. - I'm
surprised you're not used to it by now, given the business we are all in.

In any case we have no choice but to get over it and get on with making
images.   Take comfort in the probability that, in 5 or 10 years, you'll be
complaining about how we have to give up our dear old LCD displays in favor
of cruddy LED ones :-)
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Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com

"Mike Russell" <RE-MOVEmike@Curvemeister.comRE-MOVE> wrote in message news:gIiLe.1964$dk5.1
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>
> "Pete R" <nospam4me@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:ZxiLe.4742$Wi6.3249@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... 
>
> There are lower cost LCD monitors that compete very favorably with their C
RT
> counterparts.  One that is high on my list is the Dell 1704FPT, which
> supports digital inputs, costs under $300, and competes favorably with any
> CRT.  Viewsonic, Panasonic, Sony, and others all have products coming that
> will blow everyone away.

Yeah yeah yeah, we've been hearing that for almost five years
now.  And to date I've yet to see a single LCD under $4K that
can match my $700 Mitsubishi 2040 CRT in color gamut.

> Face it, the technology is changing all the time.  This happens every time
 a
> new technology sweeps away an old one -vinyl/CD, film/digital, etc. - I'm
> surprised you're not used to it by now, given the business we are all in.
>
> In any case we have no choice but to get over it and get on with making
> images.   Take comfort in the probability that, in 5 or 10 years, you'll b
e
> complaining about how we have to give up our dear old LCD displays in favo
r
> of cruddy LED ones :-)

You know I *wish* our choice was between CRT and LED.
Now there's a no-brainer.  Can't we just skip this LCD nonsense
and get to the good stuff?

"Pete R" <nospam4me@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:4TiLe.5273
...
> You know I *wish* our choice was between CRT and LED.
> Now there's a no-brainer.  Can't we just skip this LCD nonsense
> and get to the good stuff?

Maybe that's possible.  Craig's list will be flooded with cheap used CRT's -
maybe that can tide a few technological scrooges over until the technology
gets there.

You can probably buy my Nanao off of Craig's list if you're in the SF Bay
area :-)
--
Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com

"Pete R" <nospam4me@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> [...] Are cruddy, noisy images with
> incorrect color just a fact of life now in this digital age?

Wow, a digital lament in the digital paradigm - and I thought the film
photographers had that whine registered.

Have you seen the Apple monitors? Check them out.

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 08:48:40 -0500, "johnboy" <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

>"Pete R" <nospam4me@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:ZxiLe.4742$Wi6.3249@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... 
>
>Wow, a digital lament in the digital paradigm - and I thought the film
>photographers had that whine registered.
>
>Have you seen the Apple monitors? Check them out.
>
And as I#d already pointed out to him, Eizo, whose monitors aren't
cheap but certainly aren't thousands of dollars at the lower end, are
all perfectly colour correctable, profileable etc.

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In article <ZxiLe.4742$Wi6.3249@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Pete R" <nospam4me@earthlink.net> wrote:

> So now that shit LCDs have been forced down our throats,

Nothing's been forced down anyone's throats. Manufacturers sell what is
popular; they don't decide in advance what should be popular and then
sell.

CRTs are dying because nobody is buying them, that's all there is to it.
If enough people still bought them, manufacturers would still make them.

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"tacit" <tacitr@aol.com> wrote in message
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> CRTs are dying because nobody is buying them, that's all there is to it.
> If enough people still bought them, manufacturers would still make them.

In our case, with over 7,000 PCs and Macs, we are darned happy to be rid of
CRTs because by law we have to arrange for the Hazardous Materials people to
dispose of them, and that's more $$$ yet.

Our graphics art department still has CRTs, and probably will for quite some
time.

FWIW, LaCie still has their 22" CRT available, although I think they
may have stopped production of the 19". The 22 is great monitor at a
fair price.

I agree that low end LCDs just don't get it, not only for color, but
sharpness as well. By that I mean they are too damned sharp. I prepare
files for print and I know what they're supposed to look like on my
CRT. Some of my contemporaries who've switched to the new flat panels
still struggle with this after months of using them.

hpowen@operamail.com wrote:
> FWIW, LaCie still has their 22" CRT available, although I think they
> may have stopped production of the 19". The 22 is great monitor at a
> fair price.

Yes, electron22blueIV's ARE great monitors!
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10573
Recently bought a few @ $715 apiece, but year ago they were
even cheaper, at less than $700.

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andrei