Hello,

I have found, that one can generate a nice font with the usage of the
following line (for example):

<font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="7"> Very nice </font>

Do you know whether this script is supported by all operation systems
(browsers?)? It is installed by default in Windows? What about Linux?
Do you know where one can find relatively full list of fonts which are
installed on most of computers.

Thank you.

opt_inf_env@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have found, that one can generate a nice font with the usage of the
> following line (for example):
>
> <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="7"> Very nice </font>
>
> Do you know whether this script is supported by all operation systems
> (browsers?)? It is installed by default in Windows? What about Linux?
> Do you know where one can find relatively full list of fonts which are
> installed on most of computers.
>
> Thank you.

I collect fonts but not aggressively.  I only collect those that
appeal to my personal aesthetics.  I have no font named Edwardian
Script.

Because of my interest in fonts, I also collect links to various
sites about fonts (not merely sources of new fonts but also
discussions of fonts).  One very interesting site is "Code Style"
at <URL:http://www.codestyle.org/index.shtml>, which reports on
surveys of what fonts are installed on PC, Mac, and UNIX systems.
The complete list from the 5 March 2005 survey at
<URL:[url]http://www.codestyle.org/css/font-family/sampler-CombinedResultsFull.shtml[/u
rl]>
does not show any font named Edwardian Script.

Yes, the font is available.  It is also identified by Bowfin
Printworks "Script Font Identification".  See
<URL:http://bowfinprintworks.com/Script01Pg2.html>.  Directly below
Edwardian Script on that page is Shelley Andante, which I prefer as
a script font.  Like Shelley Allegro, Edwardian Script is just too
ornate for my taste.

While I do have all three Shelley fonts -- Andante, Allegro, and
Volante -- only the Andante is enabled.  As with Edwardian Script,
none of the Shelley fonts appear in the "Code Style" survey
results.

--

David E. Ross
<URL:http://www.rossde.com/>

I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards.  See <URL:http://www.mozilla.org/>.

opt_inf_env@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> I have found, that one can generate a nice font with the usage of the
> following line (for example):
>
> <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="7"> Very nice </font>
>
> Do you know whether this script is supported by all operation systems
> (browsers?)? It is installed by default in Windows? What about Linux?
>
Yes. No. No.

Common serif fonts: Times
Common sans-serif : Helvetica
Common monospaced : Courier
Common Microsoft fonts: Times New, Georgia, Arial, Verdana, Courier New.
Helvetica is about the only font to be found on almost all operating
systems, followed by Times. The MS fonts are common because Windows is so
common; the fonts are Truetype which can be displayed by most OSs.
If a user does not have a font loaded on their computer, the browser
defaults to its best guess about what it thinks might match the font.

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All fonts listed here:
<URL:http://www.codestyle.org/css/f=ADon...inedRes=ADults=
Full....>

are just "usual" fonts and I need "unusual" fonts like listed here:
<URL:http://bowfinprintworks.com/Sc=ADript01Pg2.html>.
What I need to do if I need to know probability that a given "unusual"
font will be displayed on user's PC? Is there any possibility to get
responce from user automatically? For example, I know that I can put
some lines in my html document which will tell me whether browser of
user supports JavaScripting or not. Can I do something similar to get
feedback about fonts?

Is there any possibility to give "description" of font together with my
html page, where this font is used (for the case if this font is not
installed on user's PC)?

Thank you.

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed opt_inf_env@yahoo.com writing in
news:1112004606.468087.152970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> All fonts listed here:
><URL:http://www.codestyle.org/css/f_ont-...binedRes_ultsFu
>ll....>
>
> are just "usual" fonts and I need "unusual" fonts like listed here:
><URL:http://bowfinprintworks.com/Sc_ript01Pg2.html>.
> What I need to do if I need to know probability that a given "unusual"
> font will be displayed on user's PC? Is there any possibility to get
> responce from user automatically? For example, I know that I can put
> some lines in my html document which will tell me whether browser of
> user supports JavaScripting or not. Can I do something similar to get
> feedback about fonts?
>
> Is there any possibility to give "description" of font together with my
> html page, where this font is used (for the case if this font is not
> installed on user's PC)?
>
> Thank you.
>
>

If you want to use an unusual font, perhaps for a logo, then use an image.
There is no way to determine the fonts on a user's system.  For example, I
have 5000 fonts available, 2000 on disk, 3000+ on CD and maybe 400
installed.  I'm thinking of removing about 300 of those that are installed
and just keeping them in a separate directory where my font manager can
load them as needed.



--
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http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
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opt_inf_env@yahoo.com wrote:

> <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="7"> Very nice </font>

In addition to other problems discussed in the thread, I'd like to mention
the very real risk that the size="..." part will be applied and the
face="..." part not (when the font is not available). This will result in
_huge_ text in the browser's default font.

The same problem exists when using CSS.

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opt_inf_env@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> All fonts listed here:
> <URL:[url]http://www.codestyle.org/css/f_ont-family/sampler-CombinedRes_ultsFull....[
/url]>
>
> are just "usual" fonts and I need "unusual" fonts like listed here:
> <URL:http://bowfinprintworks.com/Sc_ript01Pg2.html>.
> What I need to do if I need to know probability that a given "unusual"
> font will be displayed on user's PC? Is there any possibility to get
> responce from user automatically? For example, I know that I can put
> some lines in my html document which will tell me whether browser of
> user supports JavaScripting or not. Can I do something similar to get
> feedback about fonts?

First of all, your question is about the "probability that a given
'unusual' font will be displayed on user's PC?"  The "Code Style"
site answers that.  If a font is not listed at all, it's unlikely
to be installed in a user's PC.  If a font is indeed listed, then
you can see the percentage of PCs, Macs, and Linux (not UNIX)
systems that have it.  That percentage can be treated as the
probability of that the font will be displayed.

Since fonts are installed differently between PCs, Macs, and Linux
systems, you are unlikely to be able to develop a single script
that will work for all.

> Is there any possibility to give "description" of font together with my
> html page, where this font is used (for the case if this font is not
> installed on user's PC)?

What you should do is use a style-sheet with "font-family" to
specify your preferred font, 1-3 backup fonts to use if your
preferred is not available, and a generic font family if none of
the explicitly fonts are available.  In your case, the generic
family would likely be cursive.

By the way, the "Code Style" site does list some cursive fonts.
The only cursive font common to PCs, Macs, and Linux systems is
Comic Sans MS (94% of PCs, 91% of Macs, 48% of Linux); but this is
NOT a script font.   Brush Script MT is found on PCs (33%) and Macs
(73%); while this is a script font, it's not as appealing as
Edwardian Script or the Shelley fonts.

--

David E. Ross
<URL:http://www.rossde.com/>

I use Mozilla as my Web browser because I want a browser that
complies with Web standards.  See <URL:http://www.mozilla.org/>.