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rusty




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Old Post  12-04-03 - 12:29 AM  
Here's my site:

www.medical-breakthroughs.com

It's fairly heavy on graphics, so I'm a bit concerned about loading times
for modem users, especially of the home page and of the "introduction"
page - after that the banners should be cached by browsers.

I'd also invite comments from NN / Mozilla users since I designed primary
with IE in mind (I know the mobile nav-bar doesn't work in NN/mozilla).

I did freeze widths on certain tables (assuming a majority of visitors will
have 800-1000 pixel screens); let me know if this works for you.

all comments appreciated..

Rusty...




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Beauregard T. Shagnasty




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Old Post  12-04-03 - 12:29 AM  
Quoth the raven named rusty:
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> Here's my site: > > www.medical-breakthroughs.com > > It's fairly heavy on graphics, so I'm a bit concerned about loading times > for modem users, especially of the home page and of the "introduction" > page - after that the banners should be cached by browsers.
It took ten seconds or so to load on my 3Mbps connection. That's slow.
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> I'd also invite comments from NN / Mozilla users since I designed primary > with IE in mind (I know the mobile nav-bar doesn't work in NN/mozilla).
..or with JavaScript unavailable, in any browser. function smoochMooch() ?? What is it supposed to do? Some references for you: http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview... .com%2F http://validator.w3.org/ Add your URL.
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> I did freeze widths on certain tables (assuming a majority of visitors wil l > have 800-1000 pixel screens); let me know if this works for you.
Most people have 800x600 or 1024x768 resolution monitors, but that is not the question. The question is *browser window size* which can be anything. (Mine is never maximized.) Think fluid. http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?AnySizeDesign Bold, justified text is hard to read. Drop the justify at least. You're using tables for layout. Presentation is not tabular data. http://www.htmlhelp.com/faq/html/al...#table-problems I like the color combinations. -- -bts -This space intentionally left blank.


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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
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> Quoth the raven named rusty: > > > > It took ten seconds or so to load on my 3Mbps connection. That's slow. > > > > ..or with JavaScript unavailable, in any browser. > > function smoochMooch() ?? What is it supposed to do? > > Some references for you: > > http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview...r /> hs.com%2F > > > http://validator.w3.org/ Add your URL. > > > > > Most people have 800x600 or 1024x768 resolution monitors, but that is > not the question. The question is *browser window size* which can be > anything. (Mine is never maximized.) Think fluid. > http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?AnySizeDesign
Right. Have a look at: http://www.mbstevens.com/test/snapshot5.png (...will leave it up a couple of hours.) Fluid layout is the only cure. -- Cheers, m


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In article <EuTvb.126774$jy.109488@clgrps13>, rusty says...
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> I did freeze widths on certain tables (assuming a majority of visitors wil l > have 800-1000 pixel screens); let me know if this works for you.
Actually, some of the TDs in your tables add up to 886px across. Your 800*600 visitors will see horizontal scrolling, while your 640*480 chaps (both of them) will see more horizontal scrolling than vertical. Of course, you really shouldn't be using tables for layout anyway. I'm not going to argue with your choice of fixed-width because I believe site designers should be free to specify the exact way they want their pages to look. Doesn't always mean the pages will look that way, but they can try. Also, you can't really assume anything with the web. How do you know if I'm viewing your site on my 17" monitor, 50" TV, or 7" LCD in the car? Your moving menu doesn't work in Opera either, but that wouldn't be a problem with a "Back to Top" link here and there, or text links at the bottom of the pages. On the plus side, the colour scheme works well, and you appear to have coded by hand, which is my personal preference. Look into CSS for layout and, if you're going to use fixed widths, try to make it look reasonable at resolutions as low as 800*600. There are still a fair amount of people who don't change it to a setting that doesn't cause standard dialog boxes to fill half the screen. -- Daniel Ruscoe http://www.dualstone.co.uk http://www.dannyruscoe.co.uk


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"rusty" <rusty@web555design.com> wrote:
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Welcome to the mid nineties ... Now BIGGER and BETTER. Okay, it's just bigger - much bigger than 800x600, which is the resolution used by HALF YER FREAKIN' AUDIENCE! LOL!! Great design! ROFL! -- Farlo, the Urban Fey Dragon


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Total size of page is 80KB. Keep it to under 34KB as an ABSOLUTE maximum. http://www.useit.com/alertbox/sizelimits.html -- Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS Contact Me - http://www.goddamn.co.uk/tobyink/?page=132


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According to my HTML editor, estimated download time is 10.5 seconds at 56.6
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> Here's my site: > > www.medical-breakthroughs.com > > It's fairly heavy on graphics, so I'm a bit concerned about loading times > for modem users, especially of the home page and of the "introduction" > page - after that the banners should be cached by browsers. > > I'd also invite comments from NN / Mozilla users since I designed primary > with IE in mind (I know the mobile nav-bar doesn't work in NN/mozilla). > > I did freeze widths on certain tables (assuming a majority of visitors wil l > have 800-1000 pixel screens); let me know if this works for you. > > all comments appreciated.. > > Rusty... > >
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> Here's my site: > > www.medical-breakthroughs.com > > It's fairly heavy on graphics, so I'm a bit concerned about loading times > for modem users, especially of the home page and of the "introduction" > page - after that the banners should be cached by browsers. > > I'd also invite comments from NN / Mozilla users since I designed primary > with IE in mind (I know the mobile nav-bar doesn't work in NN/mozilla). > > I did freeze widths on certain tables (assuming a majority of visitors wil l > have 800-1000 pixel screens); let me know if this works for you. > > all comments appreciated.. > > Rusty...
I'll paste in the text of the webpage... Introducing... The Encyclopedia of Medical Breakthroughs, New Research Discoveries & Forbidden Cures Including Pain-Relief Treatments You Can?t Liv e Without Your Window Into the World of Miracle Medicine Breakthroughs in Health and Medicine Information from beyond the cutting edge... Tomorrows Medical Breakthroughs Today! Announcing the Availability Of A Medical Document That Will Revolutionize Th e Way You Think About Your Body... And The Way You View The Fields of Health & Medicine Regularly $49.95 (USD) Now?For a Limited Time Only, Purchase The Encyclopedi a of Medical Breakthroughs at the Special Introductory Price of: $19.95 (USD) ____________ I put them out of order to help illustrate that this page is a series on one liners -- zingers to convince the reader into buying the book. But seen together without the benefit of visual embellishment, it is a mess. So first, I would go back to square one and select only one 'zinger' line as your headline and put SOME the rest of them into a describtive paragraph or two that actually informs the reader what's inside the book. Why? Because those one-liners don't say sh*t. Once you've got your copy together, get an image of the book. It doesn't mat ter if this is a spiral-bound, ugly book. Just show them the object you want the m to buy. And right next to it, have a 'Buy Now' button that works, and have a 'Buy PDF Now' button that works. Make EVERYTHING smaller. Your book and the buy now buttons should be near th e top of the page. Drop the dynamic navigation menu because it occupies a huge amount of page space. Notice how you had to create a negative-space area all the way down the page to accommodate the navigation bar? Would you have don e that if this web page cost you $100 per square inch? Look at it this way: consider philosophically that all the page space that a user with a 800x600 screen sees WITHOUT scrolling as costing you $100 per square inch, and all t he page the user sees after they scroll as no charge -- free to you. Same thing with the picture clouds. You're not selling clouds, you're sellin g a book. You don't have to embellish every single item on the page with prettiness. Also, every one-line zinger looks different. Try and solidify the look of th e site with consistency of color, size and font attributes. I like the choice of blue and gold and white for the site colors. You can make the whole thing wi th these colors, dropping red, light blue and light yellow where it appears elsewhere in a few places. You should also not use bold for every piece of text. Every page in the site should have a way for the reader to 'buy now' near th e top. Your buy now link doesn't have to be large or garish, but it should be on every page. My browser title bar should say the name of the book instead of "Medical-Breakthroughs: Breakthroughs in Health and Medicine". Also, I downloaded the free-sample pdf file and got this error message when I viewed it with GhostView: **** This file has a corrupted %%EOF marker, or garbage after the %%EOF. **** The file was produced by Corel PDF Engine Version 10.517: **** please notify the author of this software **** that the file does not conform to Adobe's published PDF **** specification. Processing of the file will continue normally. Good luck with the book!


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Clark Simmons wrote in news:bpqvj0$1r3o5t$1@ID-76126.news.uni-berlin.de:
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> According to my HTML editor, estimated download time is 10.5 seconds at > 56.6.
Huh! Do you mean browser ? -- Edwin van der Vaart http://www.semi-conductor.nl/ Links to Semiconductors sites http://www.evandervaart.nl/ Underconstruction


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| Clark Simmons wrote in news:bpqvj0$1r3o5t$1@ID-76126.news.uni-berlin.de:
| > According to my HTML editor, estimated download time is 10.5 seconds at
| > 56.6.
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| Huh!
| Do you mean browser ?

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