well i've seen some vector work in my time but this BLOWS THE MIND.

however, since i can't read any of the details (does anyone read asian
languages here???) i have my doubts on what was actually done and used
(eg. photoshoping, 3d,..... streamline anyone) to achieve the end result.

i'll let you guys be the judge on this one....

http://www.photoshopcn.com/bbs/view...=150569&fpage=1

http://www.geocities.jp/real_trace/

ps. the first link contains alot of pics so it might take a while to load
but it's certainly worth the wait.

woodsie wrote:
> well i've seen some vector work in my time but this BLOWS THE MIND.
>
> however, since i can't read any of the details (does anyone read asian
> languages here???) i have my doubts on what was actually done and used
> (eg. photoshoping, 3d,..... streamline anyone) to achieve the end result.
>
> i'll let you guys be the judge on this one....
>
> http://www.photoshopcn.com/bbs/view...=150569&fpage=1
>
> http://www.geocities.jp/real_trace/
>
> ps. the first link contains alot of pics so it might take a while to load
> but it's certainly worth the wait.
Yes, it's very impressive.. 3D generated and enhanced in Photoshop and
Illustrator...

MArtin Chiselwitt wrote:
> woodsie wrote:
> 
>
> Yes, it's very impressive.. 3D generated and enhanced in Photoshop and
> Illustrator...
Actually, i am not at all sure how he has made these..... :0

I refuse to believe that
http://www.aiclub.cn/images/upload/...6/29/053711.jpg is vector....
look at the blur in the background.

Matt

woodsie wrote:
> well i've seen some vector work in my time but this BLOWS THE MIND.
>
> however, since i can't read any of the details (does anyone read asian
> languages here???) i have my doubts on what was actually done and used
> (eg. photoshoping, 3d,..... streamline anyone) to achieve the end result.
>
> i'll let you guys be the judge on this one....
>
> http://www.photoshopcn.com/bbs/view...=150569&fpage=1
>
> http://www.geocities.jp/real_trace/
>
> ps. the first link contains alot of pics so it might take a while to load
> but it's certainly worth the wait.

If those really are vector... they are obscenely good. Better even than
3D renders.

Matt

woodsie wrote:
> well i've seen some vector work in my time but this BLOWS THE MIND.
>
> however, since i can't read any of the details (does anyone read asian
> languages here???) i have my doubts on what was actually done and used
> (eg. photoshoping, 3d,..... streamline anyone) to achieve the end result.
>
> i'll let you guys be the judge on this one....
>
> http://www.photoshopcn.com/bbs/view...=150569&fpage=1
>
> http://www.geocities.jp/real_trace/
>
> ps. the first link contains alot of pics so it might take a while to load
> but it's certainly worth the wait.

In article <kS27d.1219$UK2.600@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>, Matt Bostock
<matt@mattbostock.com> wrote:

>I refuse to believe that
>http://www.aiclub.cn/images/upload/...6/29/053711.jpg is vector....
>look at the blur in the background.

that why i think there's other apps involved.

the worst offender is the lettuce. there's just too many colour shifts and
blur's going on for all that to be vector.

On 9/30/04 10:32 PM, in article
none-0110041232180001@c211-28-190-157.mckinn1.vic.optusnet.com.au, "woodsie"
<none@none.com> wrote:

> In article <kS27d.1219$UK2.600@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net>, Matt Bostock
> <matt@mattbostock.com> wrote:
> 
>
> that why i think there's other apps involved.
>
> the worst offender is the lettuce. there's just too many colour shifts and
> blur's going on for all that to be vector.

I'd have to vote for Illustrator and at least one other program.
I don't understand the logic (other than for purely portfolio purposes) in
using Illustrator to accomplish a photographic rendering. It's much more
cost-effective to simply use a camera and Photoshop.
--
Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino
Cartoons with a Touch of Magic
http://www.wizardofdraws.com
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In article <BD823EDB.262D5%jeffbREMOVE@REMOVEwizardofdraws.com>, Wizard of
Draws <jeffbREMOVE@REMOVEwizardofdraws.com> wrote:

>On 9/30/04 10:32 PM, in article
>none-0110041232180001@c211-28-190-157.mckinn1.vic.optusnet.com.au, "woodsie
"
><none@none.com> wrote:
> 
>
>I'd have to vote for Illustrator and at least one other program.
>I don't understand the logic (other than for purely portfolio purposes) in
>using Illustrator to accomplish a photographic rendering. It's much more
>cost-effective to simply use a camera and Photoshop.


the only benefit would be creating something u couldn't straight out
photograph or alter in PS.

MArtin Chiselwitt <none@none.invalid> wrote:

> woodsie wrote: 
<snip> 
> Yes, it's very impressive.. 3D generated and enhanced in Photoshop and
> Illustrator...

It isn't 3D generated as nearly as I and the Japanese staff in my
company can work out from what is written on the site. The person I had
translate is very good at translating (Japanese native with high English
proficiency) but not so great at understanding the technical talk of
Illustrator usage. I can understand the technical talk but can't read
all of the Japanese. However, I think, we figured it out.

The information on the site says that this is Illustrator-only work
using the pen, pencil and gradient mesh. The writer specifically said he
couldn't do some of the things he wanted to with just the pen and had to
use the pencil. The site is to promote a book on learning to use the
gradient mesh tools optimally in Illustrator.

One thing we're unclear on though is whether or not the pictures are art
as well or if they are source photos for the meshes. It's possible that
the meshes are the art and the photos just a source. It's also possible
that the "photos" are the meshes with color applied. It's unclear which
is the case from what we could see on the site.
 

This gallery appeared to contain Chinese characters so I couldn't read
it.

Orchid

>The information on the site says that this is Illustrator-only work
>using the pen, pencil and gradient mesh. The writer specifically said he
>couldn't do some of the things he wanted to with just the pen and had to
>use the pencil. The site is to promote a book on learning to use the
>gradient mesh tools optimally in Illustrator.
>

Will that book be available in English? I'd love to get some idea of his
technique.

>One thing we're unclear on though is whether or not the pictures are art as
well or if they are source photos for the meshes.

The pictures are the gradient meshes. The black and white would be the
underlying structure/containers that the gradient meshes would be create in.
I've fooled around some with gradient meshes. They put Illustrator into a
different world. I wish I understood them a lot better than I do. I'm at the
fingerpainting-in-kindergarten stage compared to what this guy is doing.
Play with it a bit to see what they are. Create a square and fill it with a
gradient. Select and go to object>Create gradient mesh (6X6 is good). Desele
ct
and then use the white arrow to pull and push the intersections around, curv
e
some lines, pull the light into the dark, etc.







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