I previously asked for a critique of
http://access-the-best-tickets.com/yankees3/

and appreciated the advise. I have since made the style sheet external
and have used an include for the menu (the teams menu) to make
http://access-the-best-tickets.com/yankees4/

I was hoping I could get some help. The menu now has to be positioned
manually at top: 72px; to get a semblence of balance. The menu is also
to the absolute right in yankees4 but in yankees3 the right edge of the
menu was even with the borders of the logo.

What am I doing wrong?


Also if someone would be kind enough to check this out in some (windows)
browsers

Thanks again




body
{
background-color: rgb(255,255,255);
color: rgb(243,1,45);
font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-width: 0px;
border-bottom-width: 0px;
border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-top-style:
none; border-bottom-style: none;
border-color: rgb(213,181,187);
}

#content
{
font-size: 90%;
background-color: rgb(255,255,255);
color: rgb(0,0,0);
border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-width: 0px;
border-bottom-width: 0px;
border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-top-style:
none; border-bottom-style: none;
padding: 22px 11px 22px 0px;
border-color: rgb(0,0,0);
text-align: left;
}



#footer
{
font-size: 70%;
background-color: rgb(255,255,255);
color: rgb(100,100,100);
border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-width: 0px;
border-bottom-width: 0px;
border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-top-style:
none; border-bottom-style: none;
padding: 0px 22px 0px 0px;
border-color: rgb(0,0,0);
text-align: center;
position: absolute;
bottom: 0;
right: 20%;
}

#disclaimer
{
font-size: 60%;
background-color: rgb(255,255,255);
color: rgb(100,100,100);
border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-width: 0px;
border-bottom-width: 0px;
border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-top-style:
none; border-bottom-style: none;
padding: 20px 0px 0px 0px;
border-color: rgb(154,22,46);
text-align: center;
}


#banner
{
/* background-color: rgb(213,183,189);
color: rgb(243,1,45); */
background-color: rgb(255,255,255);
color: rgb(243,1,45);
font-family: verdana, san-serif;
font-style: normal;
border-color: rgb(224,171,181);
}

a.banneritem
{
font-size: 67%;
background-color: rgb(154,22,46);
color: rgb(213,181,187);
font-variant: normal;
text-transform: none;
font-weight: bold;
margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px;
border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-width: 0px;
border-bottom-width: 0px;
border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-top-style:
none; border-bottom-style: none;
border-color: rgb(0,0,0);
padding: 1px 0px 1px 0px;
text-align: center;
}

#menu
{
background-color: rgb(213,183,189);
color: rgb(243,1,45);
font-family: verdana, san-serif;
font-style: normal;
border-color: rgb(224,171,181);
}

a.menuitem
{
font-size: 67%;
background-color: rgb(154,22,46);
color: rgb(213,181,187);
font-variant: normal;
text-transform: none;
font-weight: bold;
margin-left: 4px; margin-right: 4px; margin-top: 4px; margin-bottom: 4px;
border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-width: 0px;
border-bottom-width: 0px;
border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-top-style:
none; border-bottom-style: none;
border-color: rgb(0,0,0);
padding: 0px 8px 0px 0px;
text-align: right;
}

#logo, #logo a
{
font-size: 135%;
background-color: rgb(255,255,255);
color: rgb(0,0,0);
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;
font-style: normal;
font-variant: none;
text-transform: none;
font-weight: bold;
padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-top-style:
double; border-bottom-style: double;
border-color: rgb(154,22,46);
text-align: left;
text-indent: 20px;
}

#trail, #trail a
{
font-size: 89%;
background-color: rgb(255,255,255);
color: rgb(243,1,45);
font-style: italic;
font-variant: normal;
text-transform: none;
font-weight: normal;
border-left-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-top-width: 0px;
border-bottom-width: 0px;
border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-top-style:
none; border-bottom-style: none;
padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px;
border-color: rgb(213,183,189);
text-align: right;
}

#content a
{
color: rgb(82,23,34);
text-decoration: underline;
}

#content a:hover, #content a:active
{
background-color: rgb(82,23,34);
color: rgb(255,255,255);
}

h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6
{
font-family: Verdana, san-serif;
font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal;
text-transform: none;
font-weight: bold;
}

h1
{
font-size: 136%;
text-align: right;
margin-top: 0%;
}

h2
{
font-size: 136%;
}

h3
{
font-size: 124%;
}

h4
{
font-size: 112%;
}

h5
{
font-size: 100%;
}

h6
{
font-size: 58%;
}

p {text-indent: 20px;}

#menu a
{
text-decoration: none;
}

.menuitem:hover
{
background-color: rgb(213,181,187);
color: rgb(154,22,46);
}

#banner a
{
text-decoration: none;
}

.banneritem:hover
{
background-color: rgb(213,181,187);
color: rgb(154,22,46);
}

#trail a
{
text-decoration: underline;
}

#logo a
{
text-decoration: none;
}

#trail a:hover
{
}



/* layout */
#banner     {position: relative; top: 0; left: 0; float: left;
text-align: center;}
.banneritem    {width: auto; display: block;}
#content    {margin-left: 300px; margin-right: 20%; width: auto}
#menu    {width: 20%; position: absolute; top: 72px; right: 0; float:
right; text-align: right;}
.menuitem      {width: auto; display: block;}
#disclaimer {margin-left: 0px;}


@media print

{

#menu       {display: none;}

#content    {padding: 0px;}

#content a  {text-decoration: underline;}

}



</style>

0 wrote:

Hmmm. Thinks. Ah yes, 0 is actually replying to the original poster, not to
kchayka.

Next time reply to the post you are replying to, not the last one in your
"newsreader".

> even your coding is bloated. why have you left all that space
> in the html ? do you not realise that browsers read from left to right
then
> drop a line then repeat the entire process ? you have blank lines, why
have
> you done this ?

What on earth, or elsewhere for that matter, are you talking about.

The layout of the HTML has no impact at all on the layout of the web page.
As it should not.

The HTML can be layed out with as much spacing as required, even more in
fact, so as to make it very easily readable by authors.

The browser will condense all that whitespace, as it should and does.

> please tell me, is this the best that you can do ? have you had any
training
> at all ?

Er, have you? Your portfolio?

> don't tell me, you just like to call yourself a "Computer Programer" right
?

Computer programming has absolutely nothing to do with authoring for the
web. They are two totally dissimilar fields, much as computer programming
bears no resemblance at all to desktop publishing. So you have just put your
second foot into your mouth.

> well think again. you aint, and never will be with work like that

Ho Hummm. I for one think the OP's site is not too bad. Not outstanding but
not actually too bad. A whole lot better than a lot of the rubbish that is
offered up here for critique.

Where is your site?

> goo day to you sir

Er goo day to you as well sire.
--
Cheers
Richard. :-)

"rf" <rf@.invalid> wrote in message
news:5LA1d.30751$D7.25598@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> 0 wrote:
>
> Hmmm. Thinks. Ah yes, 0 is actually replying to the original poster, not
to
> kchayka.
>
> Next time reply to the post you are replying to, not the last one in your
> "newsreader".
> 
> then 
> have 
>
> What on earth, or elsewhere for that matter, are you talking about.
>
> The layout of the HTML has no impact at all on the layout of the web page.
> As it should not.
>
> The HTML can be layed out with as much spacing as required, even more in
> fact, so as to make it very easily readable by authors.
>
> The browser will condense all that whitespace, as it should and does.
> 
> training 
>
> Er, have you? Your portfolio?
> 
right
> ?
>
> Computer programming has absolutely nothing to do with authoring for the
> web. They are two totally dissimilar fields, much as computer programming
> bears no resemblance at all to desktop publishing. So you have just put
your
> second foot into your mouth.
> 
>
> Ho Hummm. I for one think the OP's site is not too bad. Not outstanding
but
> not actually too bad. A whole lot better than a lot of the rubbish that is
> offered up here for critique.
>
> Where is your site?
> 
>
> Er goo day to you as well sire.
> --
> Cheers
> Richard. :-)

ok you want detail:

>What on earth, or elsewhere for that matter, are you talking about
explain this mumbling

spaces or large gaps in the html will "natually" prevent the page from
loading as quick as possible, spaces in the actual layout as seen, just make
the page look tacky, in my opinion. it's a sign of a novice.

>The HTML can be layed out with as much spacing as required, even more in
>fact, so as to make it very easily readable by authors

but who is compiling the code ? you,  or the browser ?

>The browser will condense all that whitespace, as it should and does

wasted time, slower loading.
use the correct method which is the comment out tags
not just blank lines that serve no purpose at all.
what are they for anyway ?

>Er, have you? Your portfolio?

what's it you ? mind your own business.
when i want a person like you to look at my work
then i'll know it's time to retire.

>Computer programming has absolutely nothing to do with authoring for the
web

you need to think about my reasoning for mentioning this in the first place.
judging by your attitude you missed my point entirely.

>Where is your site?

again,  mind your own business,
what's your bank account details.

>Er goo day to you as well sire

Good Day to you Madam

"Neal" <neal413@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:opsebitht06v6656@news.individual.net...
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 11:38:41 GMT, rf <rf@.invalid> wrote:
> 
>
> Gotta love folks who come in here swinging a bat on post one or two. I
> usually assume they're either trolls or very disturbed.
> 
>
> Hap-py Goo Day to yoooou! (whistle and clap)

yeah i thought as much,
just because it's my first post and i don't happen to agree with you
bunch of .....  it's attack time is it ?

that's ok with me, i'll be here and posting my comments as and when
i feel the need to do so.