Web Design Web Design Forum
Registration is free! Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Calendar Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search
Home Web Design

Convenient web based access to our favorite web design Usenet groups

web design reviews

This is Interesting: Free Magazines for Graphics designers and webmasters  





Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Last Thread  Next Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread   

I need help
 

W.R




quote this post edit post

IP Loged report this post

Old Post  08-15-04 - 05:17 PM  
I am using MS-Word to develop the html code
for my resume.  I have not done too much with HTML
up to this point and I am using a Dummy book to get
going...

I have the following which doesn't create anything but
a listing of the code...  Please send your assistance emails
to me personally - crystlenwayne@peoplepc.com

<html>
<head>
<title>Wayne Rowe's Resume</title>
</head>
<body>
<h2>Wayne A. Rowe</h2>
</body>
</html>

Please tell me whats wrong and how to correct it so
I can move forward with my Resume.

Wayne




Post Follow-Up to this message ]
Re: I need help
 

David Dorward




quote this post edit post

IP Loged report this post

Old Post  08-15-04 - 05:17 PM  
W.R wrote:

> I am using MS-Word to develop the html code
> for my resume.

Stop. MS Word produces exceptionally poor HTML code.

Get a decent editor: <http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?HTML_editors>

> I have the following which doesn't create anything but
> a listing of the code...

Possibly you are telling MS Word to save your document as HTML, but typing
the code in manually - in which case it creates an HTML document to display
the code, not using the code.

> Please send your assistance emails
> to me personally - crystlenwayne@peoplepc.com

No, this is Usenet.

> <h2>Wayne A. Rowe</h2>

You are _starting_ with a level 2 heading? That doesn't make much sense.

--
David Dorward       <http://blog.dorward.me.uk/>   <http://dorward.me.uk/>
Home is where the ~/.bashrc is


Post Follow-Up to this message ]
Re: I need help
 

The Doormouse




quote this post edit post

IP Loged report this post

Old Post  08-16-04 - 12:16 AM  
"W.R" <crystlenwayne@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> <html>
> <head>
> <title>Wayne Rowe's Resume</title>
> </head>
> <body>
> <h2>Wayne A. Rowe</h2>
> </body>
> </html>
>
> Please tell me whats wrong and how to correct it so
> I can move forward with my Resume.

Copy your code from Word to Notepad and save as a plain "txt" file.
Rename the file from MyPage.txt to MyPage.html

Notepad is much, much better than Word for HTML coding.

The Doormouse

--
The Doormouse cannot be reached by e-mail without her permission.


Post Follow-Up to this message ]
Re: I need help
 

Andrew D




quote this post edit post

IP Loged report this post

Old Post  08-16-04 - 05:17 PM  
In article <cfntk1$ckj$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, David Dorward
<dorward@yahoo.com> wrote:

> W.R wrote:
>
[snip]
 
>
> You are _starting_ with a level 2 heading? That doesn't make much sense.

I've seen this mentioned a few times and am intrigued. If an H1 heading is
much larger than you need, and if you're not using CSS and it's widely
recommended that developer's use fonts at 100% size, then doesn't it make
sense to use a heading size that is more likely to meet your requirements
for a given line of text?

Or have I really missed the point somewhere along the line? Is it okay,
for example, to set an H1 with a font size="-2" in order to control it?

Pointers to tutorials/advice on the proper use of headlines appreciated.

Andy D.
--
Andy D.
http://members.westnet.com.au/andydolphin
Fine art gallery - online, Western Australia
Landscapes, seascapes and still life paintings in oils.


Post Follow-Up to this message ]
Re: I need help
 

David Dorward




quote this post edit post

IP Loged report this post

Old Post  08-17-04 - 12:17 AM  
Andrew D wrote:
 
>
> I've seen this mentioned a few times and am intrigued. If an H1 heading is
> much larger than you need

<h1> doesn't mean "A heading of this size", it means "A level 1 heading". If
that happens to have a large _default_ size that you don't like it - change
it.

> and if you're not using CSS

This is 2004. Browsers which support different sizes of fonts but do not
support the very basic CSS 1 needed to resize fonts hold as close to zero
marketshare as makes no difference.

> and it's widely recommended that developer's use fonts at 100% size

No - that's body text, not headings.

> Pointers to tutorials/advice on the proper use of headlines appreciated.

<h1> - heading
<h2> - subheading
<h3> - subsubheading
<h4> - etc etc etc

--
David Dorward       <http://blog.dorward.me.uk/>   <http://dorward.me.uk/>
Home is where the ~/.bashrc is


Post Follow-Up to this message ]
Re: I need help
 

Neal




quote this post edit post

IP Loged report this post

Old Post  08-17-04 - 12:17 AM  
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:23:25 +0800, Andrew D <andyd@elsewhere.com> wrote:

> In article <cfntk1$ckj$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, David Dorward
> <dorward@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>
> I've seen this mentioned a few times and am intrigued. If an H1 heading
> is
> much larger than you need, and if you're not using CSS and it's widely
> recommended that developer's use fonts at 100% size, then doesn't it make
> sense to use a heading size that is more likely to meet your requirements
> for a given line of text?
>
> Or have I really missed the point somewhere along the line? Is it okay,
> for example, to set an H1 with a font size="-2" in order to control it?

Yes yes yes yes yes. A thousand times yes.

> Pointers to tutorials/advice on the proper use of headlines appreciated.

h1 is the heading for this page. h2's are headings for sections of the
page. h3's are subheadings for sections of the h2 sections. Think of it as
an outline of the document.

h1 My web page
h2 Navigation of my site
h2 My favorite Links
h3 Web Design
h3 My Little Pony Links
h3 Other Links
h2 Info about me
h3 My bio
h3 My upcoming appearances

If it fits this format, you'll get arguments from no one, I imagine. This
is a strict interpretation admittedly, but it's the one I go by.


Post Follow-Up to this message ]
Re: I need help
 

Toby Inkster




quote this post edit post

IP Loged report this post

Old Post  08-17-04 - 12:17 AM  
Andrew D wrote:

> If an H1 heading is much larger than you need,

Larger?! In *my* browser, an <h1> heading is the same size text as an <h2>
heading, which is the same size as an <h3> heading.

--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me  ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact



Post Follow-Up to this message ]
Re: I need help
 

Spartanicus




quote this post edit post

IP Loged report this post

Old Post  08-17-04 - 12:17 AM  
David Dorward <dorward@yahoo.com> wrote:

><h1> - heading
><h2> - subheading
><h3> - subsubheading
><h4> - etc etc etc

That's a proprietary definition. It for example suggests that multiple
h1's are inappropriate, or any heading level sequentially repeated,
although quite a few people would agree with that, it's a particular
point of view not supported by the specs.

From the spec: "There are six levels of headings in HTML with H1 as the
most important and H6 as the least. "

No more, no less.

--
Spartanicus


Post Follow-Up to this message ]
Re: I need help
 

Neal




quote this post edit post

IP Loged report this post

Old Post  08-17-04 - 12:17 AM  
On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 22:44:32 +0100, Toby Inkster
<usenet200408@tobyinkster.co.uk> wrote:

> Andrew D wrote:
> 
>
> Larger?! In *my* browser, an <h1> heading is the same size text as an
> <h2>
> heading, which is the same size as an <h3> heading.
>


The "if" above seems to cover the fact that in some cases the heading size
is not different. Clearly in *your* browser an author's CSS cannot change
the font-size of headings, so that's IMO a moot point to this argument.

Visitors for whom visual CSS is of any consequence normally do see h1 as
larger than h2, h3, etc. The CSS adjustment for these renderings does not
bear at all on the rendering for other users for whom the headings are not
larger than normal text.

Perhaps what you actually were arguing is the wording of the phrase. h1
certainly does not "mean" bold text at twice the size, though in most
graphic browsers it turns out to be the case. h1 merely means "primary
heading" and imposes no rendering strictures asude from the mention that
most browsers make the h1 more prominent on the page than surrounding text.

An h1 heading is not large or small in size, but its rendering in most
browsers can be, and that fact is the point of discussion.


Post Follow-Up to this message ]
Re: I need help
 

David Dorward




quote this post edit post

IP Loged report this post

Old Post  08-17-04 - 09:15 AM  
Spartanicus wrote:

> That's a proprietary definition.

It is, at least, implied by the semantics extractor. ISO-HTML, IIRC,
enforces it.

--
David Dorward       <http://blog.dorward.me.uk/>   <http://dorward.me.uk/>
Home is where the ~/.bashrc is


Post Follow-Up to this message ]
Sponsored Links
 





All times are GMT. The time now is 04:10 PM. Post New Thread   
Pages (2): [1] 2 »   Previous Last Thread   Next Thread next
Site Ratings & Reviews archive | Show Printable Version | Email this Page | Subscribe to this Thread

Popular forums

Adobe Photoshop forum Macromedia Flash Web Site Design
Dreamweaver FrontPage forum
JavaScript Forum XML forum
Style Sheets VRML
Forum Jump:
Rate This Thread:

 

XML RSS Feed web design latest articles Syndicate our forum via XML or simple JavaScript

Web Design archive  Database administration help  


Top Home  -  Register  -  Control Panel   -  Memberlist  -  Calendar  -  Faq  -  Search Top