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Spandex Rutabaga

2007-06-13, 6:25 pm

While trying to find a link for Joske I encountered a problem
with the HTML on your site. I started with the PSP X tips and
tricks index:
http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...ndexanchors.htm

Then I clicked the link to tip or trick 195 (text consistency),
which took me here:
http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...s181200.htm#195

This actually left me at the top of this page and not at the
anchor for tip 195, as if I had used the link:
http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook/10tips181200.htm

The reason for this is that the page source shows the anchor
for tip 195 to be <a name=#195> and not <a name=195> so that
the anchor as it exists actually has to be referenced as:
http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...181200.htm##195
(Note the doubled # sign.)

This is not a problem with IE, which seems to ignore the extra
# sign. In IE the following two links give the identical result:
http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...s181200.htm#195
http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...181200.htm##195
However this isn't true of other browsers.

I haven't checked the rest of the site but other anchors in the
10tips181200.htm file have anchor names with a leading # sign
so I suspect this is consistent across the site or parts of it.
Since you've managed to come up with so many good tips it might
be a good idea to clean this up some time to improve the access
to the tips. Probably the importance is relatively minor because
most people access the site with IE, but still .... :)
JoeB

2007-06-13, 6:25 pm

Spandex Rutabaga <SpRu@agabatur.xednaps> wrote in news:466FFFAE.42D056E7
@agabatur.xednaps:

> While trying to find a link for Joske I encountered a problem
> with the HTML on your site. I started with the PSP X tips and
> tricks index:
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...ndexanchors.htm
>
> Then I clicked the link to tip or trick 195 (text consistency),
> which took me here:
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...s181200.htm#195
>
> This actually left me at the top of this page and not at the
> anchor for tip 195, as if I had used the link:
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook/10tips181200.htm
>
> The reason for this is that the page source shows the anchor
> for tip 195 to be <a name=#195> and not <a name=195> so that
> the anchor as it exists actually has to be referenced as:
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...181200.htm##195
> (Note the doubled # sign.)
>
> This is not a problem with IE, which seems to ignore the extra
> # sign. In IE the following two links give the identical result:
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...s181200.htm#195
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...181200.htm##195
> However this isn't true of other browsers.
>
> I haven't checked the rest of the site but other anchors in the
> 10tips181200.htm file have anchor names with a leading # sign
> so I suspect this is consistent across the site or parts of it.
> Since you've managed to come up with so many good tips it might
> be a good idea to clean this up some time to improve the access
> to the tips. Probably the importance is relatively minor because
> most people access the site with IE, but still .... :)


Having seen what you posted about the v.X Tips and Tricks I took a quick
peek at the v.XI Tips and Tricks and it has the same issue. Simple
enough to fix, however, with a quick Search/Replace All (or equivalent
in whatever editor is being used) of "name=#" with "name=" (without the
quotes, of course).

Regards,

JoeB

Trev

2007-06-13, 6:25 pm


"JoeB" <mymail@myserver.com> wrote in message
news:Xns994E7386D28EFJoeB@207.107.16.194...
> Spandex Rutabaga <SpRu@agabatur.xednaps> wrote in news:466FFFAE.42D056E7
> @agabatur.xednaps:
>
>
> Having seen what you posted about the v.X Tips and Tricks I took a quick
> peek at the v.XI Tips and Tricks and it has the same issue. Simple
> enough to fix, however, with a quick Search/Replace All (or equivalent
> in whatever editor is being used) of "name=#" with "name=" (without the
> quotes, of course).
>
> Regards,
>
> JoeB


Ha oh yes. I had to change all examples of IT to Information Technology
as the last step in a web design exam. I was so chuffed to have finished
with over a hour to spear till I noticed "With " was now Winformation
Technologyh" and so for any word with it in it.


JoeB

2007-06-13, 6:25 pm

"Trev" <trevbowden@dsl.pipex.cominvalid> wrote in
news:466ee281$1_3@cnews:

>
> "JoeB" <mymail@myserver.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns994E7386D28EFJoeB@207.107.16.194...
>
> Ha oh yes. I had to change all examples of IT to Information
> Technology
> as the last step in a web design exam. I was so chuffed to have
> finished with over a hour to spear till I noticed "With " was now
> Winformation Technologyh" and so for any word with it in it.
>


Yes, you do have to be careful with global search and replace. In Suz'
case there will be no other instances of name=# except those in the
anchors so there won't be a problem. In your example the chances of IT
being used as adjacent upper case letters in any context except as a
short form for Information Technology would likely have been slim. In
that case I would have selected the space before IT, IT itself, and the
space after IT, and replaced with Information Technology, also with a
space placed before and after, and selected the Case Sensitive option
before applying the replace.

I admit I've been caught in the past when not careful, and I always
check the Create Backup option when I do this using Homesite so I have a
backup of the original html file in case I mess up :-)

Regards,

JoeB
Trev

2007-06-13, 6:25 pm


"JoeB" <mymail@myserver.com> wrote in message
news:Xns994E81D375B9FJoeB@207.107.16.194...[color=darkred]
> "Trev" <trevbowden@dsl.pipex.cominvalid> wrote in
> news:466ee281$1_3@cnews:
>
I just forgot to insist on upper case only


SuzShook

2007-06-13, 6:25 pm

Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
> While trying to find a link for Joske I encountered a problem
> with the HTML on your site. I started with the PSP X tips and
> tricks index:
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...ndexanchors.htm
>
> Then I clicked the link to tip or trick 195 (text consistency),
> which took me here:
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...s181200.htm#195
>
> This actually left me at the top of this page and not at the
> anchor for tip 195, as if I had used the link:
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook/10tips181200.htm
>
> The reason for this is that the page source shows the anchor
> for tip 195 to be <a name=#195> and not <a name=195> so that
> the anchor as it exists actually has to be referenced as:
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...181200.htm##195
> (Note the doubled # sign.)
>
> This is not a problem with IE, which seems to ignore the extra
> # sign. In IE the following two links give the identical result:
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...s181200.htm#195
> http://users.adelphia.net/~suzshook...181200.htm##195
> However this isn't true of other browsers.
>
> I haven't checked the rest of the site but other anchors in the
> 10tips181200.htm file have anchor names with a leading # sign
> so I suspect this is consistent across the site or parts of it.
> Since you've managed to come up with so many good tips it might
> be a good idea to clean this up some time to improve the access
> to the tips. Probably the importance is relatively minor because
> most people access the site with IE, but still .... :)


Thanks, Spandex - I've fixed both the PSP X and PSP XI tips pages. Let me
know if you find any other anomalies. Suz


rtfm-impaired

2007-06-13, 6:25 pm

> Thanks, Spandex - I've fixed both the PSP X and PSP XI tips pages. Let me
> know if you find any other anomalies. Suz


And thank YOU very much Suz, for all you do.

Not worthy but grateful.

Daņado
Spandex Rutabaga

2007-06-13, 6:25 pm

SuzShook wrote:

> Thanks, Spandex - I've fixed both the PSP X and PSP XI tips pages.


Yep, it's working great for me now. Thanks.
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