PainShop Pro Graphics - Balcony From Selections

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Balcony From Selections

Pegs

2006-08-15, 3:37 am

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Adriaan Barel

2006-08-15, 6:42 pm

"Pegs" <StPatrick@houstonremove.rr.com> wrote in message
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> I started this exactly a year ago. I actually had the entire balcony
> scene from the tutorial finished, & had planned on turning it into a
> night club scene (the hanging baskets were going to be light
> fixtures). Well, it didn't look that hot, so I put it aside. And then
> forgot about it.
>
> Until this afternoon, when I was looking for something else. I
> decided it was time to finish this off! Well, it nearly finished ME
> off. Since the nightclub thing wasn't working, I decided to go with a
> cityscape. Nope. A backyard. Nope. Whatever I tried, the perspective
> of the ceiling made the background look 'off'.
>
> So, determined to end this project, I took a photograph from along
> the river in my hometown in Illinois, slapped it in the background, &
> with a few modifications & tweaks, called it DONE!
>
> The perspective still looks a bit weird, so I'll probably try
> something else in another year. Here's the link if anyone wants to
> have a go:
>
> http://pannsplace.50megs.com/tutori...ny/balcony.html
>
> Adriaan might like her building/room tutorials for use in his Poser
> scenes.
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
> Pegs. : )
>
> (compressed @ 23% for posting).

I can't see anything wrong with your image; In fact I think you did a great
job. Love the furniture and table setting.

BTW thanks for the link. :-)

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Joske

2006-08-15, 6:42 pm

Pegs wrote:

> I started this exactly a year ago. I actually had the entire
> balcony scene from the tutorial finished, & had planned on
> turning it into a night club scene (the hanging baskets were
> going to be light fixtures). Well, it didn't look that hot, so I
> put it aside. And then forgot about it.

> Until this afternoon, when I was looking for something else. I
> decided it was time to finish this off! Well, it nearly finished
> ME off. Since the nightclub thing wasn't working, I decided to go
> with a cityscape. Nope. A backyard. Nope. Whatever I tried, the
> perspective of the ceiling made the background look 'off'.

> So, determined to end this project, I took a photograph from
> along the river in my hometown in Illinois, slapped it in the
> background, & with a few modifications & tweaks, called it DONE!

> The perspective still looks a bit weird, so I'll probably try
> something else in another year. Here's the link if anyone wants
> to have a go:

> http://pannsplace.50megs.com/tutori...ny/balcony.html

> Adriaan might like her building/room tutorials for use in his
> Poser scenes.

> Thanks for looking!
> Pegs. : )
> (compressed @ 23% for posting).

I think you did nicely turning a potential nightclub into a terrace
on the river. Don't wait to do something else in another year :-)
The best time to learn is when you're right in the middle of making
things.

Is it still possible for you to take away the drop shadows? If you
think, you'll know that they aren't actually falling on anything.
They are partly responsible for the somewhat off perspective, not a
lot, but particularly the ones on the chairs and table do this, they
make the floor seem to go up.

Joske
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Pegs

2006-08-17, 10:43 pm

"Joske" <j.backer@home.nl> wrote in message news:44e1ddc2_1@cnews...
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> Pegs wrote:
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> I think you did nicely turning a potential nightclub into a terrace
> on the river. Don't wait to do something else in another year :-)
> The best time to learn is when you're right in the middle of making
> things.
>
> Is it still possible for you to take away the drop shadows? If you
> think, you'll know that they aren't actually falling on anything.
> They are partly responsible for the somewhat off perspective, not a
> lot, but particularly the ones on the chairs and table do this, they
> make the floor seem to go up.
>
> Joske
> --
> http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/
>
>
>

Thanks for the critique, Joske. I appreciate it!

I put the drop shadows on separate layers, so that's no problem. The table &
chairs are actually a tube of an outdoor patio set (with umbrella) that I
got several years ago. I'm guessing it came out of a brightly lit scene,
which accounts for the mis-matched light & shadows. I tried to adjust for
it, but didn't do a very good job. :-P

I tried a different table tube I made a few years ago, a wrought iron mesh
top table. It looked pretty good, but I hadn't tubed matching chairs & now
can't find any that match.

I also tried putting some people in there, but again, the perspective was
giving me fits. To me, the ceiling & floor seem to be getting ready to join
each other just past the outside corner, & the floor layer seems to be
floating above the background/lawn.

I'll try a different take on it when I get caught up around here. School
started this week, & since we build & sell PCs, it's been hectic the last
week or two.

Thanks for the compliment, Adriaan! :D You're quite welcome for the link.
I've done several of her rooms & always have fun. I may not actually DO
anything with them (lol), but seeing how each piece fits together to make
the whole helps me to 'see' better.

If you go to her main page, she has textures for Poser & DAZ Studio figures,
which you might be able to use.

Pegs. : )

Joske

2006-08-18, 4:42 am

Pegs wrote:
> Joske wrote

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> I put the drop shadows on separate layers, so that's no problem.
> The table & chairs are actually a tube of an outdoor patio set
> (with umbrella) that I got several years ago. I'm guessing it
> came out of a brightly lit scene, which accounts for the
> mis-matched light & shadows. I tried to adjust for it, but didn't
> do a very good job. :-P

The light shouldn't be a problem, but what I meant was that the
shadows are placed in such a way that they fall on an invisible wall
hugging the objects. Hard to find the right words...

.....Say you hover your hand between a light and a table. Where would
you expect the shadow to be? That's right, on the table. As the
shadows of the garden set should be on the deck. You would never
expect the shadow of your hand to hover directly underneath your
hand, touching it as it were. Yet that is what your shadows are
doing.

> [ ]

> I'll try a different take on it when I get caught up around here.
> School started this week, & since we build & sell PCs, it's been
> hectic the last week or two.

I can imagine!

Hope you'll find the time for some more experimenting. Making scenes
this way is a nice pastime.

Joske
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http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/

Adriaan Barel

2006-08-18, 6:43 pm

"Pegs" <StPatrick@houstonremove.rr.com> wrote in message
news:44e51147_2@cnews
> "Joske" <j.backer@home.nl> wrote in message news:44e1ddc2_1@cnews...
>
> Thanks for the critique, Joske. I appreciate it!
>
> I put the drop shadows on separate layers, so that's no problem. The
> table & chairs are actually a tube of an outdoor patio set (with
> umbrella) that I got several years ago. I'm guessing it came out of a
> brightly lit scene, which accounts for the mis-matched light &
> shadows. I tried to adjust for it, but didn't do a very good job. :-P
>
> I tried a different table tube I made a few years ago, a wrought
> iron mesh top table. It looked pretty good, but I hadn't tubed
> matching chairs & now can't find any that match.
>
> I also tried putting some people in there, but again, the perspective
> was giving me fits. To me, the ceiling & floor seem to be getting
> ready to join each other just past the outside corner, & the floor
> layer seems to be floating above the background/lawn.
>
> I'll try a different take on it when I get caught up around here.
> School started this week, & since we build & sell PCs, it's been
> hectic the last week or two.
>
> Thanks for the compliment, Adriaan! :D You're quite welcome for the
> link. I've done several of her rooms & always have fun. I may not
> actually DO anything with them (lol), but seeing how each piece fits
> together to make the whole helps me to 'see' better.
>
> If you go to her main page, she has textures for Poser & DAZ Studio
> figures, which you might be able to use.
>
> Pegs. : )

Thanks Pegs, I'll look into that.:-)

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