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Polar Coordinates Micro-tut - Part 1
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| Spandex Rutabaga 2006-07-10, 7:43 pm |
| I did a photo manipulation in the Photography group and asked
people how I did it. Nobody guessed I used the Polar Coordinates
filter. This suggested to me that relatively few people knew
what it was and how to get something useful out of it. As a
result I thought it might be helpful to cook up some micro-tuts
illustrating some aspects of this filter. All the micro-tutorials
are single images with annotated series of steps (see attached).
The pictures should be self-explanatory but if someone still has
a question I will take a stab at answering. There is no math :)
Just watch what happens to the shapes of things. This micro-tut
illustrates the two possible transformations in the filter and
shows when effect orientation has on the appearance of a
transformed image.
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| Patricia 2006-07-10, 7:43 pm |
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"Spandex Rutabaga" <SpRu@agabatur.xednaps> wrote in message
news:44A89FDE.450183D3@agabatur.xednaps...
>I did a photo manipulation in the Photography group and asked
> people how I did it. Nobody guessed I used the Polar Coordinates
> filter. This suggested to me that relatively few people knew
> what it was and how to get something useful out of it. As a
> result I thought it might be helpful to cook up some micro-tuts
> illustrating some aspects of this filter. All the micro-tutorials
> are single images with annotated series of steps (see attached).
> The pictures should be self-explanatory but if someone still has
> a question I will take a stab at answering. There is no math :)
> Just watch what happens to the shapes of things. This micro-tut
> illustrates the two possible transformations in the filter and
> shows when effect orientation has on the appearance of a
> transformed image.
Thank you for these tutorials Spandex. Very interesting.....Pat
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| Lori Davis 2006-07-10, 7:43 pm |
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Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
> I did a photo manipulation in the Photography group and asked
> people how I did it. Nobody guessed I used the Polar Coordinates
> filter. This suggested to me that relatively few people knew
> what it was and how to get something useful out of it. As a
> result I thought it might be helpful to cook up some micro-tuts
> illustrating some aspects of this filter. All the micro-tutorials
> are single images with annotated series of steps (see attached).
> The pictures should be self-explanatory but if someone still has
> a question I will take a stab at answering. There is no math :)
> Just watch what happens to the shapes of things. This micro-tut
> illustrates the two possible transformations in the filter and
> shows when effect orientation has on the appearance of a
> transformed image.
>
Hehe, if I'd seen your deformed photo, I bet I would have guessed.
Haven't looked at all your mini-tutorials here yet, but I'll jump on the
boat by posting the URL to my Polar Coordinates Basics tutorial:
http://loriweb.pair.com/8polarcoord1.html
I *love* polar coordinates! ;)
Lori
P.S. I used polar coordinates to make the tick marks for this pocket watch:
http://loriweb.pair.com/goodies/ljd_PocketWatch.jpg
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| Spandex Rutabaga 2006-07-10, 7:43 pm |
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Lori Davis wrote:
> http://loriweb.pair.com/8polarcoord1.html
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> I *love* polar coordinates! ;)
And I thought it was just me :) I don't know why but I completely
missed that you had tutorials about Polar Coordinates. Sorry about
that. The watch thing is a great use for the effect. I'm sure that
scrappers would get some value out of Polar Coordinates too.
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| Joelle 2006-07-10, 7:43 pm |
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Wow, that watch is amaaazing!
:-)
Joëlle
"Lori Davis" <loriweb@REMOVEpair.com> wrote in message
news:44A990C3.1060000@REMOVEpair.com...
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> Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
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>
> Hehe, if I'd seen your deformed photo, I bet I would have guessed. Haven't
> looked at all your mini-tutorials here yet, but I'll jump on the boat by
> posting the URL to my Polar Coordinates Basics tutorial:
>
> http://loriweb.pair.com/8polarcoord1.html
>
> I *love* polar coordinates! ;)
>
> Lori
>
> P.S. I used polar coordinates to make the tick marks for this pocket
> watch:
>
> http://loriweb.pair.com/goodies/ljd_PocketWatch.jpg
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| sagoteb 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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"Lori Davis" <loriweb@REMOVEpair.com> schreef in bericht
news:44A990C3.1060000@REMOVEpair.com...
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> Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
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> Hehe, if I'd seen your deformed photo, I bet I would have guessed. Haven't looked at all
> your mini-tutorials here yet, but I'll jump on the boat by posting the URL to my Polar
> Coordinates Basics tutorial:
>
> http://loriweb.pair.com/8polarcoord1.html
>
> I *love* polar coordinates! ;)
I'm more fond of 'Tropical' coordinates! ;-)
>
> Lori
>
> P.S. I used polar coordinates to make the tick marks for this pocket watch:
>
> http://loriweb.pair.com/goodies/ljd_PocketWatch.jpg
>
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| Lori Davis 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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Joelle wrote:
> Wow, that watch is amaaazing!
> :-)
Thanks, Jo=EBlle. And all 100% PSP. See why I keep pushing folks to see=20
what they can do with PSP all by its lonesome? :)
Lori
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| Joelle 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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"Lori Davis" <loriweb@REMOVEpair.com> wrote in message
news:44AA89B5.2050104@REMOVEpair.com...
Joelle wrote:
> Wow, that watch is amaaazing!
> :-)
Thanks, Joëlle. And all 100% PSP. See why I keep pushing folks to see
what they can do with PSP all by its lonesome? :)
Lori
You have at least ONE convert!
:-)
Joëlle
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| Lori Davis 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
| Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
> Lori Davis wrote:
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> And I thought it was just me :) I don't know why but I completely
> missed that you had tutorials about Polar Coordinates. Sorry about
> that. The watch thing is a great use for the effect. I'm sure that
> scrappers would get some value out of Polar Coordinates too.
>
Between the two of us, maybe we can get some other folks to explore
Polar Coordinates. :)
I agree that scrappers could get a lot out of Polar Coordinates. For
instance, I've made some fringe and edgings with Kaleidoscope followed
by Polar Coordinates set to 'Polar to rectangular'. Here's an example
(with some Texture and Inner Bevel thrown in for good measure).
Lori
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Lori Davis wrote:
> Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
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> Between the two of us, maybe we can get some other folks to
> explore Polar Coordinates. :)
I haven't had the time and concentration yet to read Spandex'
lessons, which I want to explore in one go (thanks Spandex for
telling the answer to the quiz in the other group).
At first glance though, I think your tutorials might well be
complimentary: yours for those giving the effect a first go and
become familiar with it, Spandex' for the next phase of deep
exploration. Often I've had to look at a tool from different
perspectives to make it 'live' for me. Your tutorial looks good and
clear, and I'm sure Spandex' will be equally informative on its own
level.
Am hoping to read and then try out all the information this coming
weekend, and maybe post a result.
Joske
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http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/
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| Lori Davis 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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"Joske" <j.backer@home.nl> wrote in message news:44ac0110_1@cnews...
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> Lori Davis wrote:
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> I haven't had the time and concentration yet to read Spandex'
> lessons, which I want to explore in one go (thanks Spandex for
> telling the answer to the quiz in the other group).
>
> At first glance though, I think your tutorials might well be
> complimentary: yours for those giving the effect a first go and
> become familiar with it, Spandex' for the next phase of deep
> exploration. Often I've had to look at a tool from different
> perspectives to make it 'live' for me. Your tutorial looks good and
> clear, and I'm sure Spandex' will be equally informative on its own
> level.
>
> Am hoping to read and then try out all the information this coming
> weekend, and maybe post a result.
>
Thanks, Joske. I'd been intending to do a whole series of tutorials on Polar
Coordinates but never did get around to it. It's about time I put together
some PSPX tutorials, so maybe I should do a few that include PC.
Lori
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Lori Davis wrote:
> "Joske" wrote
[snips]
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> Thanks, Joske. I'd been intending to do a whole series of
> tutorials on Polar Coordinates but never did get around to it.
> It's about time I put together some PSPX tutorials, so maybe I
> should do a few that include PC.
I think that would be a good idea if you have the time for it. As
Spandex said too, scrappers could do lots of nice things with this,
and your site is known, plus the way you describe things has a low
threshold (not too scary to try). And though I still haven't studied
Spandex' tutorials, I wonder if they could find a place on the net
too.
Joske
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http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/
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| Spandex Rutabaga 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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Joske wrote:
> And though I still haven't studied
> Spandex' tutorials,
Shame on you. It would be a good alternative to manipulating 'bagas :)
> I wonder if they could find a place on the net
> too.
Net them all you want. Just say you got them from the vegetable.
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| Michelle 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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"Spandex Rutabaga" <SpRu@agabatur.xednaps> wrote in message
news:44A89FDE.450183D3@agabatur.xednaps...
> I did a photo manipulation in the Photography group and asked
> people how I did it. Nobody guessed I used the Polar
Coordinates
> filter. This suggested to me that relatively few people knew
> what it was and how to get something useful out of it. As a
> result I thought it might be helpful to cook up some micro-tuts
> illustrating some aspects of this filter. All the
micro-tutorials
> are single images with annotated series of steps (see
attached).
> The pictures should be self-explanatory but if someone still
has
> a question I will take a stab at answering. There is no math :)
> Just watch what happens to the shapes of things. This micro-tut
> illustrates the two possible transformations in the filter and
> shows when effect orientation has on the appearance of a
> transformed image.
Thanks so much! Excellent tuts, and much appreciated :-))
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| Lori Davis 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
> Joske wrote:
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> Shame on you. It would be a good alternative to manipulating 'bagas :)
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> Net them all you want. Just say you got them from the vegetable.
>
I could adapt a few and put'em up, with thanks to the veggie. :)
Lori
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Lori Davis wrote:
> Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
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> I could adapt a few and put'em up, with thanks to the veggie. :)
Sorry to be so 'precise'. But I think a 'thanks' would not do
justice to all her work? I'm the type that credits and leaves intact
a lot, regardless the "it's all been done before anyway" view that
also abounds here and there.
It'd be good to see the work saved on the web and your site gets
visited a lot. Could it be her work and just a note saying it's been
adapted by you for the web?
Joske
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http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/
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| Spandex Rutabaga 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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Joske wrote:
> Sorry to be so 'precise'. But I think a 'thanks' would not do
> justice to all her work?
I don't care that much. I'm more interested in someone actually
using the filter because they know how to than in getting credit
for making that happen. It doesn't mean I want no credit at all
of course :) It also doesn't mean that someone couldn't express
what I wrote in a less technical and a more Tammie Jo way. (Then
again, Tammie Jo would demand all kinds of credit, in pink most
likely :)
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| Lori Davis 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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Joske wrote:
> Lori Davis wrote:
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> Sorry to be so 'precise'. But I think a 'thanks' would not do
> justice to all her work? I'm the type that credits and leaves intact
> a lot, regardless the "it's all been done before anyway" view that
> also abounds here and there.
>
> It'd be good to see the work saved on the web and your site gets
> visited a lot. Could it be her work and just a note saying it's been
> adapted by you for the web?
>
I'm not interested in putting up someone else's work, Joske. If you have
the space, please snag the images SR posted and put them up. I wouldn't
at all mind writing up things that are more or less what I had had in
mind myself in the first place, using my own details and instructional
style, and then thanking the Rutabaga for her (similar) posts in this
group, though. :)
Lori
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| Lori Davis 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
> Joske wrote:
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> I don't care that much. I'm more interested in someone actually
> using the filter because they know how to than in getting credit
> for making that happen. It doesn't mean I want no credit at all
> of course :) It also doesn't mean that someone couldn't express
> what I wrote in a less technical and a more Tammie Jo way. (Then
> again, Tammie Jo would demand all kinds of credit, in pink most
> likely :)
>
That's how I interpreted your other post, SR. A more Tammie Jo
digestible approach is certainly what I had in mind. ;)
Lori
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ROFL Tammie Jo I think I have seen her around from time to time.
I love this one and will go searching on here to find the rest of your mini
tuts. I love learning new things and this is one that I never noticed
before.
I would be honored to host your mini tuts on my extra site that is just for
my friends or people I know that don't have sites or room for them on there
pages.
Now off to find your other mine one.
Oh BTW is there one on string or thread or twine? I haven't been able to
find one that really looks like string or thread.
Susi
"Spandex Rutabaga" <SpRu@agabatur.xednaps> wrote in message
news:44AEC109.C3F4A3@agabatur.xednaps...
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> Joske wrote:
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> I don't care that much. I'm more interested in someone actually
> using the filter because they know how to than in getting credit
> for making that happen. It doesn't mean I want no credit at all
> of course :) It also doesn't mean that someone couldn't express
> what I wrote in a less technical and a more Tammie Jo way. (Then
> again, Tammie Jo would demand all kinds of credit, in pink most
> likely :)
>
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| Patricia 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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There is one here http://designsbyjoy.net/PSPTutorial...fiber/Fiber.htm
It's about the best I've seen for looking like string....Pat
<nospamfrozentush@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message news:44aef6ca$1_2@cnews...
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> ROFL Tammie Jo I think I have seen her around from time to time.
> I love this one and will go searching on here to find the rest of your
> mini tuts. I love learning new things and this is one that I never noticed
> before.
> I would be honored to host your mini tuts on my extra site that is just
> for my friends or people I know that don't have sites or room for them on
> there pages.
> Now off to find your other mine one.
> Oh BTW is there one on string or thread or twine? I haven't been able to
> find one that really looks like string or thread.
> Susi
>
> "Spandex Rutabaga" <SpRu@agabatur.xednaps> wrote in message
> news:44AEC109.C3F4A3@agabatur.xednaps...
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| Spandex Rutabaga 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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nospamfrozentush@XXXXXXXXXX wrote:
> Oh BTW is there one on string or thread or twine?
> I haven't been able to
> find one that really looks like string or thread.
Use cunning. Scan a piece of string. Chop a small bit out of the scan
that is almost square, feather the ends and export it as a tube. Now
use the VectorTube script to lay down string along a vector path.
http://pixelnook.home.comcast.net/VectorTube.htm
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Thanks Patricia I have tried that one, but mine don't come out how I want.
"Patricia" <wattspatara@NOSPAMXXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message
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> There is one here
> http://designsbyjoy.net/PSPTutorial...fiber/Fiber.htm It's about the
> best I've seen for looking like string....Pat
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> <nospamfrozentush@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message news:44aef6ca$1_2@cnews...
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hmmmmmm I may have to resort to doing something like that. I do have the
vector tube scrip. It works great along with Suz's Shooks yarn maker
script. I love playing with scripts. I have all of Suz's and Joske's. I
bought the 2 from Joske's. She has some thread in the tartan script. I have
been trying to figure out how to do that but so far no luck. LOL Joske how
did you do that????
"Spandex Rutabaga" <SpRu@agabatur.xednaps> wrote in message
news:44AF2B40.EBFBAB8E@agabatur.xednaps...
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> nospamfrozentush@XXXXXXXXXX wrote:
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> Use cunning. Scan a piece of string. Chop a small bit out of the scan
> that is almost square, feather the ends and export it as a tube. Now
> use the VectorTube script to lay down string along a vector path.
> http://pixelnook.home.comcast.net/VectorTube.htm
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Lori Davis wrote:
> Joske wrote:
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> I'm not interested in putting up someone else's work, Joske. If
> you have the space, please snag the images SR posted and put them
> up. I wouldn't at all mind writing up things that are more or
> less what I had had in mind myself in the first place, using my
> own details and instructional style, and then thanking the
> Rutabaga for her (similar) posts in this group, though. :)
Ah, I see... now :-) Sorry for interpreting your words too
literally.
And I understand perfectly about having your own thing done in your
own way on your site... I think I'm like that too.
Joske
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http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/
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Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
> Joske wrote:
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> I don't care that much. I'm more interested in someone actually
> using the filter because they know how to than in getting credit
> for making that happen. It doesn't mean I want no credit at all
> of course :) It also doesn't mean that someone couldn't express
> what I wrote in a less technical and a more Tammie Jo way. (Then
> again, Tammie Jo would demand all kinds of credit, in pink most
> likely :)
As I think I wrote, it's my personal view. Besides, I realized
much later that it would look rather funny giving credit
to your handle :-)
Joske
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http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/
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Susi wrote:
> "Spandex Rutabaga" wrote
[color=darkred]
[color=darkred]
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> hmmmmmm I may have to resort to doing something like that. I do
> have the vector tube scrip. It works great along with Suz's
> Shooks yarn maker script. I love playing with scripts. I have
> all of Suz's and Joske's. I bought the 2 from Joske's. She has
> some thread in the tartan script. I have been trying to figure
> out how to do that but so far no luck. LOL Joske how did you do
> that????
Hi there Susi.
Spandex' advice to use Gary Barton's script is well worth taking.
Also, if you can make the tutorials available through your site, I
think that would be a good idea. I'll probably link, the main thing
is I feel they should be available and preserved.
The thread in the tartan script wasn't made in a way that's
practical for doing threads in general: it started as a selection
from the main pattern.
But I do have a small script stashed away somewhere doing several
forms of thread and ribbon where the user only gets to choose the
color. I'll spruce it up as soon as I can and post a link or the
script when it's ready.
Joske
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http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/
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| Spandex Rutabaga 2006-07-10, 7:44 pm |
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Joske wrote:
> Besides, I realized
> much later that it would look rather funny giving credit
> to your handle :-)
I don't see what is unusual about the name. Spandex Rutabaga is
a quite a straightforward name and is, moreover, entirely mine.
Neither the word "spandex" or the word "rutabaga" are owned by
anyone other than me, though these words are used by many, and
absent forgeries (which are banned by the newsgroup rules) posts
with the author named Spandex Rutabaga come from me. I think,
therefore, quoting this name is a good way of giving credit.
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Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
> Joske wrote:
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> I don't see what is unusual about the name. Spandex Rutabaga is
> a quite a straightforward name and is, moreover, entirely mine.
> Neither the word "spandex" or the word "rutabaga" are owned by
> anyone other than me, though these words are used by many, and
> absent forgeries (which are banned by the newsgroup rules)
> posts with the author named Spandex Rutabaga come from me.
Here's a sentence I had to read several times before I got the
grammar unraveled. It says that all posts with this name are yours,
because the rules forbid forgeries. There are no 'absent forgeries'
as I kept reading it: forgeries are absent :-)
This goes to show how easy it is to misunderstand and misconstrue
with non-English posters on board. And it goes both ways: it must be
fairly easy to interpret words by me in a way that suits someone
wishing to use rules to their advantage. I could mention the
familiar word 'nip', which to us is from the verb 'nippen', taking
small sips. But it should be easy to 'prove' I am in reality
taunting other posters' morals.
> I think, therefore, quoting this name is a good way of giving
credit.
You don't have a PSP website, do you :-) If you did, you'd know
there regularly are questions you need to reply to. I can see the
questions 'where can I find Spandex' (in your sports club) and 'does
it have a website' (does your cabbage field have internet) and 'are
you for real' (not really) coming in already :-)
Joske
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| Lori Davis 2006-07-13, 7:33 pm |
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"Joske" <j.backer@home.nl> wrote in message news:44b33361_1@cnews...
> Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
> A very very quick sketch involving a hat done with PC and my
> old-time favorite the Halftone.
>
I like it, Joske. :)
Lori
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Lori Davis wrote:
> "Joske" wrote
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> I like it, Joske. :)
Thanks Lori. We don't necessarily need PC to make hats :-) but it
was the first thing that came to mind. I'll need more time to study
Spandex' directions and suggestions, and will be taking another look
at your tutorial too. Never having explored PC this way, it all
looks new and interesting to me.
Joske
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http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/
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I missed this yesterday. Very nice. I need to play with the halftone more.
"Joske" <j.backer@home.nl> wrote in message news:44b33361_1@cnews...
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> Spandex Rutabaga wrote:
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> A very very quick sketch involving a hat done with PC and my
> old-time favorite the Halftone.
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> Joske
> --
> http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/
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Susi wrote:
> Joske wrote
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> I missed this yesterday. Very nice. I need to play with the
> halftone more.
Halftone is the best, trust me :-) Even though it isn't even
intended for graphics. Sally did polkadots with it a while back, the
thread should still be in the Scrapbooking group. It's stripes are
very useful too, I have my own presets because much of my personal
work and scripting makes use of the Halftone.
Joske
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http://members.home.nl/j.a.c.backer/
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| Spandex Rutabaga 2006-07-13, 7:34 pm |
| Joske wrote:
> Halftone is the best, trust me :-)
Well of course :)
> Even though it isn't even
> intended for graphics.
It isn't? I would have thought that was it's main purpose because
halftone screens aren't made the way the filter works.
> Sally did polkadots with it a while back
The main thing to bear in mind is that the size of dots or stripes
you set in the filter is the *maximum* size. What fraction of the
maximum size is attained depends on the image brightness. Black
gives maximum width while white gives minimum width (see attached).
The second thing you have to aware of is when you are seeing dots
or stripes and when you are looking at the gaps or interstices
between the dots or stripes. Sometimes that can be confusing as
dots start running together.
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| Spandex Rutabaga 2006-07-13, 7:34 pm |
| Spandex Rutabaga wrote:[color=darkred]
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> Joske wrote:
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Here's another image I found lying around my computer that might
explain what the Halftone filter does for those unfamiliar with it.
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