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Cliff Otto

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm


Has anyone tried printing in tissue paper (papier de soie) with an inkjet
printer? If so, did you get paper specially made for inkjet or did you
affix the tissue to another more substantial piece of paper? If the latter,
are there any hints, tips? I just tried this by taping the tissue, but
there were feed problem. It is a very intersting effect, though.

Thanks,
Cliff Otto

Angela M. Cable

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm


Cliff Otto wrote:

> Has anyone tried printing in tissue paper (papier de soie) with an inkjet
> printer? If so, did you get paper specially made for inkjet or did you
> affix the tissue to another more substantial piece of paper? If the latter,
> are there any hints, tips? I just tried this by taping the tissue, but
> there were feed problem. It is a very intersting effect, though.


The way scrapbookers do this is to adhere the tissue to freezer paper
using a household iron. I haven't done it myself, but I expect it must
work well enough since scrapbookers have been doing it for a couple of
years now.


--
Angela M. Cable
C-Tech Volunteer
Paint Shop Pro 9 Private Beta Tester
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http://www.neocognition.com/

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Cliff Otto

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm


"Angela M. Cable" <cable@sweetwaterhsa.com> wrote in news:42412597$1_3
@cnews:

> The way scrapbookers do this is to adhere the tissue to freezer paper
> using a household iron. I haven't done it myself, but I expect it must
> work well enough since scrapbookers have been doing it for a couple of
> years now.
>


Thanks, Angela. I'll be heading to the supermarket. I've done the grocery
shopping for all the years we've been married, and I've never noticed
freezer paper before. It amazes me that something, apparently commonplace,
could have avoided my notice for so long.

Cliff Otto

Sally Beacham

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm



"Angela M. Cable" <cable@sweetwaterhsa.com> wrote in message
news:42412597$1_3@cnews...
>
> Cliff Otto wrote:
>
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>
> The way scrapbookers do this is to adhere the tissue to freezer paper
> using a household iron. I haven't done it myself, but I expect it must
> work well enough since scrapbookers have been doing it for a couple of
> years now.
>


Unless they used different freezer paper than me, I don't think that's
exactly what he wants, as it bonds the tissue to the wax. Works great with
crumpled up crepe paper too.


--
Sally Beacham

C-Tech volunteer

The CorelWorld User Conference
May 15-18, 2005
http://www.corelworld.com





>
> --
> Angela M. Cable
> C-Tech Volunteer
> Paint Shop Pro 9 Private Beta Tester
> Neocognition, digital scrapbooking source:
> http://www.neocognition.com/
>
> PSP Tutorial Links:
> http://www.psplinks.com/
>
> 5th Street Studio, free graphics, websets and more:
> http://www.fortunecity.com/westwood/alaia/354/
>
>




Kris Zaklika

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm


Cliff Otto wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried printing in tissue paper (papier de soie) with an inkjet
> printer? If so, did you get paper specially made for inkjet or did you
> affix the tissue to another more substantial piece of paper? If the latter,
> are there any hints, tips? I just tried this by taping the tissue, but
> there were feed problem. It is a very intersting effect, though.


In addition to the other suggestions you might look into
repositionable spray adhesives. Here are a few links:
http://store.artcity.com/bes-902.html
http://cms.3m.com/cms/GB/en/0-168/iruliFU/view.jhtml
http://www.scrapjazz.com/reviews/92
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=s...+repositionable

> Thanks,
> Cliff Otto


Barbara J Bradley

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm




Sally Beacham wrote:
> "Angela M. Cable" <cable@sweetwaterhsa.com> wrote in message
> news:42412597$1_3@cnews...
>
> Unless they used different freezer paper than me, I don't think
> that's exactly what he wants, as it bonds the tissue to the wax.
> Works great with crumpled up crepe paper too.


That is what he wants, the tissue bonds to the wax (there is
not much wax on freezer paper) but will release when it is heated
again.
Barb





Cliff Otto

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm


Kris Zaklika <Kris.Zaklika@corel.com> wrote in news:4241838D.F80EB380
@corel.com:

> n addition to the other suggestions you might look into
> repositionable spray adhesives.


Kris, I'm not certain that this would work with tissue paper, but if the
freezer paper doesn't, it's worth a shot.

Thanks,
Cliff Otto

Kris Zaklika

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm


Cliff Otto wrote:
>
> Kris Zaklika <Kris.Zaklika@corel.com> wrote in news:4241838D.F80EB380
> @corel.com:
>
>
> Kris, I'm not certain that this would work with tissue paper, but if the
> freezer paper doesn't, it's worth a shot.


One of the links claims it does, I believe. Some of this stuff
is very low tack and relies on the size of the contact area for
the strength of the bond.

> Thanks,
> Cliff Otto


Cliff Otto

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm


The freezer paper idea worked just fine, and I didn't even have to reheat
the paper to get the (art) tissue to peel off. Skip the pillow case; a
hard, flat surface works better because it eliminates wrinkles. The next
adventure will be using the mulberry paper I found today.

I cut the freezer paper to match an 8.5x11 sheet, then roughly cut the
tissue larger than that. After ironing, I trimmed off the excess tissue.

Thanks all,
Cliff Otto

Barbara J Bradley

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm




Cliff Otto wrote:
> The freezer paper idea worked just fine, and I didn't even have
> to reheat the paper to get the (art) tissue to peel off. Skip the
> pillow case; a hard, flat surface works better because it
> eliminates wrinkles. The next adventure will be using the
> mulberry paper I found today.
>
> I cut the freezer paper to match an 8.5x11 sheet, then roughly
> cut the tissue larger than that. After ironing, I trimmed off the
> excess tissue.
>
> Thanks all,
> Cliff Otto


Glad to know it worked for you, Cliff. I have some mulberry
paper so will give it a try.
Barb



Cliff Otto

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm


"Barbara J Bradley" <BarbBrad1@aol.com> wrote in news:424356be$1_3@cnews:

> Glad to know it worked for you, Cliff. I have some mulberry
> paper so will give it a try.
>


Barb, I'll be interested in learning the results. I set my printer for
matte paper, although I have no idea whether that is the best setting.
Also, both my printers are pigment-based--Durabrite and UltraChrome, but I
don't know whether that has a bearing.

Cliff Otto

Barbara J Bradley

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm




Cliff Otto wrote:
> "Barbara J Bradley" <BarbBrad1@aol.com> wrote in
> news:424356be$1_3@cnews:
>
>
> Barb, I'll be interested in learning the results. I set my
> printer for matte paper, although I have no idea whether that is
> the best setting. Also, both my printers are
> pigment-based--Durabrite and UltraChrome, but I don't know
> whether that has a bearing.
>
> Cliff Otto


You have an Epson 2200, right? So do I and I also have a
regular sized Epson with dye-based ink. Did you print using
UltraChrome ink? Did you use light colored Mulberry paper? I'm not
sure I have paper that is light enough for colors to show well . .
prints using black ink might work on darker paper. How do you plan to
frame your prints on Mulberry and what type of prints are you doing?
Barb



Sally Beacham

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm



"Cliff Otto" <baseball318@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9623CCABC758Fbaseball318hotmailco@216.191.232.194...
>
> "Barbara J Bradley" <BarbBrad1@aol.com> wrote in news:424356be$1_3@cnews:
>
>
> Barb, I'll be interested in learning the results. I set my printer for
> matte paper, although I have no idea whether that is the best setting.
> Also, both my printers are pigment-based--Durabrite and UltraChrome, but I
> don't know whether that has a bearing.
>
> Cliff Otto
>


I think the inks will work fine, as I rubber-stamp with both pigment and
dye-based inks, on mulberry and other types of paper. My personal opinion
is that a color photo isn't going to work very well on anything but white or
ivory paper, but feel free to experiment for all of us!

Think about how you intend to frame this, and whether you want the mulberry
print to have frayed edges. If so, mulberry tears well, although there are
a few tricks to getting a nice edge. My personal favorite is to paint a
thin line of water along the edge I want to rip, wait for it to saturate the
paper and then gently pull it apart along that wet line. However - you
won't want to do that anywhere near the printer ink, so either your print
must be far enough away from the edge, or else rip it first and print on it
after it dries.


--
Sally Beacham

C-Tech volunteer

The CorelWorld User Conference
May 15-18, 2005
http://www.corelworld.com







Cliff Otto

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm


"Barbara J Bradley" <BarbBrad1@aol.com> wrote in news:42437391$1_2@cnews:

> You have an Epson 2200, right? So do I and I also have a
> regular sized Epson with dye-based ink. Did you print using
> UltraChrome ink? Did you use light colored Mulberry paper? I'm not
> sure I have paper that is light enough for colors to show well . .
> prints using black ink might work on darker paper. How do you plan to
> frame your prints on Mulberry and what type of prints are you doing?
>


Barb,

I do have the 2200 and the other printer is the Epson C84 (Durabrite ink).
I haven't printed on mulberry paper yet, but the kind I got was unbleached,
and nearly white.

As for the types of prints I'm doing?...Practice! I've only done two, with
the second one being a Great Blue Heron in water with tree stumps, which I
did with the 2200 (the first was with the other pronter). I haven't given
any though, yet, to framing them. First, I have to produce something worth
framing.

Cliff Otto

Cliff Otto

2005-04-04, 12:22 pm


"Sally Beacham" <trillium@trinity.com> wrote in news:4243773e_2@cnews:

> I think the inks will work fine, as I rubber-stamp with both pigment
> and dye-based inks, on mulberry and other types of paper. My personal
> opinion is that a color photo isn't going to work very well on
> anything but white or ivory paper, but feel free to experiment for all
> of us!
>
> Think about how you intend to frame this, and whether you want the
> mulberry print to have frayed edges. If so, mulberry tears well,
> although there are a few tricks to getting a nice edge. My personal
> favorite is to paint a thin line of water along the edge I want to
> rip, wait for it to saturate the paper and then gently pull it apart
> along that wet line. However - you won't want to do that anywhere
> near the printer ink, so either your print must be far enough away
> from the edge, or else rip it first and print on it after it dries.


Sally,

As I reported to Barb, I've yet to try the mulberry paper. I printed on
white "art tissue" today. The mulberry is off-white, so I shouldn't have
any problems there. I did see some *bright* red mulberry that probably
wouldn't work too well :)

Thanks for the tip about producing ragged edges. I certainly would not
have thought of it. I don't think I need to worry too much about the ink
and water, though. The pigment-based inks are supposed to have high
resistance to water.

Cliff Otto


Kris Zaklika

2005-04-04, 12:23 pm


Cliff Otto wrote:
>
> The freezer paper idea worked just fine, and I didn't even have to reheat
> the paper to get the (art) tissue to peel off. Skip the pillow case; a
> hard, flat surface works better because it eliminates wrinkles. The next
> adventure will be using the mulberry paper I found today.
>
> I cut the freezer paper to match an 8.5x11 sheet, then roughly cut the
> tissue larger than that. After ironing, I trimmed off the excess tissue.


Now you've got the ironing down pat, I have a few shirts I
can send you :) You can skip the printing part :)

> Thanks all,
> Cliff Otto


Cliff Otto

2005-04-04, 12:23 pm


Kris Zaklika <Kris.Zaklika@corel.com> wrote in news:42444C29.264A4E10
@corel.com:

> Now you've got the ironing down pat, I have a few shirts I
> can send you :) You can skip the printing part :)


I did enough of that in the Air Force. It literally took four weeks to get
uniforms done at the cleaners at one base, so I had to do most of my own
washing and ironing.

Cliff Otto


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