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Guilt-free chocolate

SAGOTEB

2005-11-14, 7:23 pm

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message news:4378fcfa_2@cnews...
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> Vector cat, turned into a chocolate cat, via Effects>Texture Effects>Sandstone.
> Sprinkled with cocoa powder edging.
>
> Not a calorie in sight!
>
> :-)
> Joëlle

It looks very real, maybe you can send me one with Sinterklaas! :-))

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>
>

Joëlle

2005-11-14, 7:23 pm

"SAGOTEB" <sagoteb@chello.nl> wrote in message news:43790931$1_1@cnews...
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>
> "Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
> news:4378fcfa_2@cnews...
>
> It looks very real, maybe you can send me one with Sinterklaas! :-))
>

Thanks Sago, maybe I should try Speculaas?
Oooh yum.
:-)
Joëlle

Michelle

2005-11-14, 10:34 pm

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
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> Vector cat, turned into a chocolate cat, via Effects>Texture
> Effects>Sandstone.
> Sprinkled with cocoa powder edging.
>
> Not a calorie in sight!
>

Mmmm, but it looks so chocolately, I had to go eat a piece,
therefore it does have calories, ;-)

--
Michelle ;-)

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Pegs

2005-11-14, 10:34 pm

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
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> Vector cat, turned into a chocolate cat, via Effects>Texture
> Effects>Sandstone.
> Sprinkled with cocoa powder edging.
>
> Not a calorie in sight!
>
> :-)
> Joëlle
>
>

Ooooo!!! Chocolate & cats - my 2 favorite things!

Nice rendition, Joelle! (what is cocoa powder edging?)

Pegs. : )

Patricia

2005-11-15, 3:41 am

Great effect Joëlle...Pat

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
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>
> Vector cat, turned into a chocolate cat, via Effects>Texture
> Effects>Sandstone.
> Sprinkled with cocoa powder edging.
>
> Not a calorie in sight!
>
> :-)
> Joëlle
>
>

Joëlle

2005-11-15, 6:37 am

"Patricia" <wattspa@NOSPAMsupernerd.com.au> wrote in message
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> Great effect Joëlle...Pat
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>
> "Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
> news:4378fcfa_2@cnews...

Thanks Pat and Michelle :-)

Joëlle

SAGOTEB

2005-11-15, 6:37 am

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message news:437917f2_2@cnews...
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> "SAGOTEB" <sagoteb@chello.nl> wrote in message news:43790931$1_1@cnews...
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>
> Thanks Sago, maybe I should try Speculaas?

Or combined! We have those cookies here, speculaas, dipped in chocolate,
and they go incredibly well with icecream + whipped cream!! :-)))

> Oooh yum.
> :-)
> Joëlle
>
>

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

"SAGOTEB" wrote
> Or combined! We have those cookies here, speculaas, dipped in chocolate,
> and they go incredibly well with icecream + whipped cream!! :-)))
>

I buy those from the Dutch shop along with bricks of cheese, Koors soups,
and licorice (I never spell that right!) and cinnamon sticks (my favourite
candy) and I don't wait for Sinterklass either hehehe. It is a long drive,
but well worth it!

Take care,
Linda

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

hehehe, cute! Looks like real milk chocolate too!

Take care,
Linda

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
news:4378fcfa_2@cnews...
>
> Vector cat, turned into a chocolate cat, via Effects>Texture
> Effects>Sandstone.
> Sprinkled with cocoa powder edging.
>
> Not a calorie in sight!
>
> :-)
> Joëlle
>
>

Joëlle

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

"Linda Nieuwenstein" <buzzball@REMOVETHIS-allstream.net> wrote in message
news:437a042c$1_2@cnews...
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> hehehe, cute! Looks like real milk chocolate too!
>
> Take care,
> Linda
>
> "Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
> news:4378fcfa_2@cnews...
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>
>

Thanks Linda.
Nothing on the hips, if only it was like that in real life!
I am glad to see you travel far and wide to buy Dutch goodies.
I miss milk chocolate Hagelslag most, can't get that anywhere near here :-(

:-)
Joëlle

tspillman

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

Jo=EBlle wrote:
> "Linda Nieuwenstein" <buzzball@REMOVETHIS-allstream.net> wrote in messa=
ge=20
> news:437a042c$1_2@cnews...
>=20
>=20
> Thanks Linda.
> Nothing on the hips, if only it was like that in real life!
> I am glad to see you travel far and wide to buy Dutch goodies.
> I miss milk chocolate Hagelslag most, can't get that anywhere near here=
:-(
>=20
> :-)
> Jo=EBlle=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
Isn't it interesting what we miss!

I was on an assignment in Nederland and my wife and I lived in=20
Scheveningen for almost five years.

At this time of year, I think I miss erwtensoep the most (and sometimes=20
Bruine Boenen!), Of course, the chocolate was great, but we also bought=20
a lot of Leonidas in a shop in the centrum of Den haag.

Regards, ook groetjes...

Tom

Joëlle

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

"tspillman" <nospam@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:437a1341$1_1@cnews...

Joëlle wrote:
> "Linda Nieuwenstein" <buzzball@REMOVETHIS-allstream.net> wrote in message
> news:437a042c$1_2@cnews...
>
>
> Thanks Linda.
> Nothing on the hips, if only it was like that in real life!
> I am glad to see you travel far and wide to buy Dutch goodies.
> I miss milk chocolate Hagelslag most, can't get that anywhere near here
> :-(
>
> :-)
> Joëlle
>
>
Isn't it interesting what we miss!

I was on an assignment in Nederland and my wife and I lived in
Scheveningen for almost five years.

At this time of year, I think I miss erwtensoep the most (and sometimes
Bruine Boenen!), Of course, the chocolate was great, but we also bought
a lot of Leonidas in a shop in the centrum of Den haag.

Regards, ook groetjes...

Tom

Hey, I used to live in Scheveningen. ...
Erwtensoep met kluif is something that I still make regularly, with smoked
sausage of course!
Did you go to Het Noordeinde for your choccies? I seem to remember that
Leonidas was either there or in De Passage..

Memories memories.. I was just looking for a recipe for Speculaas Poppen en
Taai Taai, then came across all the wonderful Sinterklaas sweets and treats
that bring back even more memories.

Hmm, thanks for bringing back some fun memories.:-))

Joëlle

Barbara J Bradley

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
news:437a19a9$1_3@cnews...
>
> Isn't it interesting what we miss!
>
> I was on an assignment in Nederland and my wife and I lived in
> Scheveningen for almost five years.
>
> At this time of year, I think I miss erwtensoep the most (and
> sometimes
> Bruine Boenen!), Of course, the chocolate was great, but we also
> bought
> a lot of Leonidas in a shop in the centrum of Den haag.
>
> Regards, ook groetjes...
>
> Tom
>
>
> Hey, I used to live in Scheveningen. ...
> Erwtensoep met kluif is something that I still make regularly, with
> smoked sausage of course!
> Did you go to Het Noordeinde for your choccies? I seem to remember
> that Leonidas was either there or in De Passage..
>
> Memories memories.. I was just looking for a recipe for Speculaas
> Poppen en Taai Taai, then came across all the wonderful Sinterklaas
> sweets and treats that bring back even more memories.
>
> Hmm, thanks for bringing back some fun memories.:-))
>
> Joëlle

Okay, now I'm interested. Describe some of those things please.
:)
Barb

Joëlle

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

"Barbara J Bradley" <BarbBrad1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:437a1b81_2@cnews...
>
>
> "Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
> news:437a19a9$1_3@cnews...
>
> Okay, now I'm interested. Describe some of those things please. :)
> Barb
>
>
>
Erwtensoep is a Pea and Ham soup, I remember it being made with a Hock or
Trotters, plus chunky slices of Dutch Rookworst (Smoked Sausage). I still
make it like that. I am sure there are many permutations.
It has got freezing cold here in the last day or two, so have bought the
Smoked Sausage for Erwtensoep.:-)

The Speculaas Poppen are doll shaped biscuits, big or small, made with a
spicemix which you can buy ready made, it's a little bit like ginger bread.
Taai Taai is something similar. It is more the shapes than what's in them
that is very important around the feast of St.Nicholas which is celebrated
on the eve of the 6th of December.
http://www-astro.physics.ox.ac.uk/~erik/sint/sint.html
This site explains it very well.
It is a lovely tradition, I hope it never disappears.

Oooh I am getting all nostalgic.. thanks Barb :-))

Joëlle

tspillman

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

Jo=EBlle wrote:
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> Hey, I used to live in Scheveningen. ...
> Erwtensoep met kluif is something that I still make regularly, with smo=
ked=20
> sausage of course!
> Did you go to Het Noordeinde for your choccies? I seem to remember that=
=20
> Leonidas was either there or in De Passage..
>=20
> Memories memories.. I was just looking for a recipe for Speculaas Poppe=
n en=20
> Taai Taai, then came across all the wonderful Sinterklaas sweets and tr=
eats=20
> that bring back even more memories.
>=20
> Hmm, thanks for bringing back some fun memories.:-))
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> Jo=EBlle
>=20
>
We bought our Leonidas in De Passage (I don't remember one in Het=20
Noordeinde, but I could be wrong!). The Leonidas shop was rather small,=20
but full of dark wood paneling and it also had a large chandelier --=20
quite elegant for a chocolate shop. There was also a Godiva shop in Den=20
Haag, but we lost interest in Godiva after they were sold to Cambell's=20
soup (I think!).

I agree that speculaas are almost a necessity for Christmas. FWIW, I=20
found a site with a number of recipes that LOOK fairly authentic to me.=20
The also have kerstbrood and oliebollen. You might find it=20
interesting. You can find it at:

http://www.biglove.lvhr.com/recipes/singles/dutch.html

Here is a recipe for speculaas in Nederlands, if you'd prefer (when=20
reading about ethenic food, I usually prefer recipes in the original=20
language):

http://www.receptjes.be/recept_speculaas.html

I have not tried any of these since I hadn't thought about echte=20
hollendse eten in a long time...

Regards...

Beste wensen...

Tom

Joëlle

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

"tspillman" <nospam@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:437a2ae2$1_2@cnews...

Joëlle wrote:
>
>
> Hey, I used to live in Scheveningen. ...
> Erwtensoep met kluif is something that I still make regularly, with smoked
> sausage of course!
> Did you go to Het Noordeinde for your choccies? I seem to remember that
> Leonidas was either there or in De Passage..
>
> Memories memories.. I was just looking for a recipe for Speculaas Poppen
> en Taai Taai, then came across all the wonderful Sinterklaas sweets and
> treats that bring back even more memories.
>
> Hmm, thanks for bringing back some fun memories.:-))
>
> Joëlle
>
>
We bought our Leonidas in De Passage (I don't remember one in Het
Noordeinde, but I could be wrong!). The Leonidas shop was rather small,
but full of dark wood paneling and it also had a large chandelier --
quite elegant for a chocolate shop. There was also a Godiva shop in Den
Haag, but we lost interest in Godiva after they were sold to Cambell's
soup (I think!).

I agree that speculaas are almost a necessity for Christmas. FWIW, I
found a site with a number of recipes that LOOK fairly authentic to me.
The also have kerstbrood and oliebollen. You might find it
interesting. You can find it at:

http://www.biglove.lvhr.com/recipes/singles/dutch.html

Here is a recipe for speculaas in Nederlands, if you'd prefer (when
reading about ethenic food, I usually prefer recipes in the original
language):

http://www.receptjes.be/recept_speculaas.html

I have not tried any of these since I hadn't thought about echte
hollendse eten in a long time...

Regards...

Beste wensen...

Tom

My favourite 'Dutch' food is from Indonesia, rijsttafel, nasi goreng, etc.
hmmm, yum. I still cook that regularly. We moved to Singapore for a few
years and had the time of our lives with the wonderful food.

I still have a few Dutch cookery books, very basic ones from the late 1950s,
yes I still use them! I made a new cover for one some time back as it was
falling to bits. Using PSP, of course.

....and..
Sinterklaas kapoentje, doe wat in m'n schoentje.... hehe, gosh, those were
the days. I never did end up in his sack, but it was close..!

:-))

Joëlle

Barbara J Bradley

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
news:437a2153$1_2@cnews...
>
>
> "Barbara J Bradley" <BarbBrad1@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:437a1b81_2@cnews...
> Erwtensoep is a Pea and Ham soup, I remember it being made with a
> Hock or Trotters, plus chunky slices of Dutch Rookworst (Smoked
> Sausage). I still make it like that. I am sure there are many
> permutations.
> It has got freezing cold here in the last day or two, so have bought
> the Smoked Sausage for Erwtensoep.:-)
>
> The Speculaas Poppen are doll shaped biscuits, big or small, made
> with a spicemix which you can buy ready made, it's a little bit like
> ginger bread. Taai Taai is something similar. It is more the shapes
> than what's in them that is very important around the feast of
> St.Nicholas which is celebrated on the eve of the 6th of December.
> http://www-astro.physics.ox.ac.uk/~erik/sint/sint.html
> This site explains it very well.
> It is a lovely tradition, I hope it never disappears.
>
> Oooh I am getting all nostalgic.. thanks Barb :-))
>
> Joëlle

Great . . thanks for the link which takes me to recipes. I
collect cookbooks and love European sweets and dessert recipes.
Happy baking.

A short story . . . I bought a book of Parisian desserts and
e-mailed my French daughter-in-law to find out which desserts she
likes and which of the pastry shops she visits when in Paris. All I
got was . . "the shops are very expensive and I like what you bake at
your house" . . I guess that was good enough. :)
Barb

Barb

Joëlle

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

"Barbara J Bradley" <BarbBrad1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:437a4582$1_3@cnews...
>
>
> "Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
> news:437a2153$1_2@cnews...
>
> Great . . thanks for the link which takes me to recipes. I collect
> cookbooks and love European sweets and dessert recipes. Happy baking.
>
> A short story . . . I bought a book of Parisian desserts and
> e-mailed my French daughter-in-law to find out which desserts she likes
> and which of the pastry shops she visits when in Paris. All I got was .
> . "the shops are very expensive and I like what you bake at your house" .
> . I guess that was good enough. :)
> Barb
>
> Barb
>
What a nice compliment!
Where does your 'French' family live?

Paris is very expensive, one needs a large bank account to live there.
Beautiful city though.
:-)
Joëlle

tspillman

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

Joëlle wrote:

>
>
> My favourite 'Dutch' food is from Indonesia, rijsttafel, nasi goreng, etc.
> hmmm, yum. I still cook that regularly. We moved to Singapore for a few
> years and had the time of our lives with the wonderful food.
>
> I still have a few Dutch cookery books, very basic ones from the late 1950s,
> yes I still use them! I made a new cover for one some time back as it was
> falling to bits. Using PSP, of course.
>
>
> ...and..
> Sinterklaas kapoentje, doe wat in m'n schoentje.... hehe, gosh, those were
> the days. I never did end up in his sack, but it was close..!
>
> :-))
>
> Joëlle
>

We also love Indonesian food. Who can go to the Netherlands and not
develop a taste for rijsttafel? We still fix Nasi Goreng and Bami
Goreng from time to time. We can find most of the ingredients for these
easier than some of the others.

Here's omething you might enjoy.

Groetejes...

Tom

Barbara J Bradley

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
news:437a46de_3@cnews...
> What a nice compliment!
> Where does your 'French' family live?
>
> Paris is very expensive, one needs a large bank account to live
> there. Beautiful city though.
> :-)
> Joëlle

I've never been to Paris but pictures tell me it is beautiful.
They live in the US (Maryland) but my daughter-in-law's mother lives
in Paris. Since my son and d-i-l are both teachers, they have the
time to go to Paris for a month or two each summer and alternating
Christmas. They will be at our house for Christmas this year.
Barb

Joëlle

2005-11-15, 7:32 pm

"tspillman" <nospam@austin.rr.com> wrote in message news:437a4f03_1@cnews...
Joëlle wrote:

>
>
> My favourite 'Dutch' food is from Indonesia, rijsttafel, nasi goreng, etc.
> hmmm, yum. I still cook that regularly. We moved to Singapore for a few
> years and had the time of our lives with the wonderful food.
>
> I still have a few Dutch cookery books, very basic ones from the late
> 1950s,
> yes I still use them! I made a new cover for one some time back as it was
> falling to bits. Using PSP, of course.
>
>
> ...and..
> Sinterklaas kapoentje, doe wat in m'n schoentje.... hehe, gosh, those were
> the days. I never did end up in his sack, but it was close..!
>
> :-))
>
> Joëlle
>

We also love Indonesian food. Who can go to the Netherlands and not
develop a taste for rijsttafel? We still fix Nasi Goreng and Bami
Goreng from time to time. We can find most of the ingredients for these
easier than some of the others.

Here's omething you might enjoy.

Groetejes...

Tom

:-))) Thanks Tom!

Joëlle

Tracy Pori

2005-11-16, 10:28 pm

Michelle wrote:
> "Jo=EBlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
> news:4378fcfa_2@cnews...
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Mmmm, but it looks so chocolately, I had to go eat a piece,
> therefore it does have calories, ;-)
>=20
>=20
I second that!

Joëlle

2005-11-17, 6:22 am

"Tracy Pori" <digitalartresources@charter.net> wrote in message
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Michelle wrote:
> "Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
> news:4378fcfa_2@cnews...
>
>
>
> Mmmm, but it looks so chocolately, I had to go eat a piece,
> therefore it does have calories, ;-)
>
>
I second that!

This particular chocolate only adds calories to virtual hips...:-))

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

"Joëlle" wrote
> Thanks Linda.
> Nothing on the hips, if only it was like that in real life!
> I am glad to see you travel far and wide to buy Dutch goodies.
> I miss milk chocolate Hagelslag most, can't get that anywhere near here
> :-(
>

If it is any consequence the chocolate hagelslag is nothing like it was 20
years ago (real Dutch chocolate). It is fake chocolate (carob) now, same
brand name as always. I also get the aniseed hagelslag (forget the official
names on the boxes...too lazy to the cupboard right now, but one is pink and
white balls with a seed in the middle, and the other is crystalized white
aniseed in hash shape about the length of chocolate hagelslag). Neither of
the latter have changed much over the years other than getting less in the
box for a greatly increased price.

Koor's soups have gone to pot in my opinion. Oxtail soup isn't even sold as
part of their product line.

I so miss European smoked eel! Nothing like the big, fatty smoked eel one
would get around here, yuck! The street markets are a big loss too. We have
a Dutch street market on Sundays inside an old brewer's market but nothing
as grand or wide in scope as a real Dutch street market!

Take care,
Linda

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

>"tspillman" <nospam@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:437a1341$1_1@cnews...
>
>
>At this time of year, I think I miss erwtensoep the most (and sometimes
>Bruine Boenen!), Of course, the chocolate was great, but we also bought a
>lot of Leonidas in a shop in the centrum of Den haag.
>

What is erwtensoep? My favourite was Koors oxtail (ban here now...something
dangerous about the process if memory serves)

Holland has lots of good things that are hard to get here, but then again
when family comes here they say the same.

Take care,
Linda

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

>"Joëlle" wrote
> It is more the shapes than what's in them that is very important around
> the feast of St.Nicholas which is celebrated on the eve of the 6th of
> December.
> http://www-astro.physics.ox.ac.uk/~erik/sint/sint.html
> This site explains it very well.
> It is a lovely tradition, I hope it never disappears.
>
> Oooh I am getting all nostalgic.. thanks Barb :-))
>

LOL, me too.

St. Nicholas is actually what some people are mixing up as Sinter Klass.
Sinter Klass is just a rip off of the North American's very commerical
Scanty Claws and actually holds zero historical significance in Holland,
unlike St. Nicholas and his assistant Pete who are barely even acknowledged
in modern times according to many Nederlander folk.

Take care,
Linda

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

"tspillman" wrote
>quite elegant for a chocolate shop. There was also a Godiva shop in Den
>Haag, but we lost interest in Godiva after they were sold to Cambell's soup
>(I think!).
>

Hmm I wonder if Camp Bells'N'Croup also took over Koors as well. Koors
certainly lost its appeal somewhere along the line.

I'm with you that Godiva used to be 'to die for'. It is just okay now. Sort
of like the original Icy Cups....melted immediately upon hitting the tongue.
The modern day version taste nowhere near as good, don't melt easily, and
result in indigestion an hour after eating 2 or 3 of them.

Which brings me to french truffles....yummy.

Take care,
Linda

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
news:437a379b_1@cnews...
>
> My favourite 'Dutch' food is from Indonesia, rijsttafel, nasi goreng, etc.
> hmmm, yum. I still cook that regularly. We moved to Singapore for a few
> years and had the time of our lives with the wonderful food.
>
> I still have a few Dutch cookery books, very basic ones from the late
> 1950s, yes I still use them! I made a new cover for one some time back as
> it was falling to bits. Using PSP, of course.
>

LOL Joëlle, I just ate Dutch Indonesian rice today made with a Nasi Goreng
mixture. I added diced chicken and pan fried it using olive oil. I am so
addicted to that dish I often make it. I have a cookbook made by the company
with lots of good meal recipes in it.

I so envy you to have been in Singapore! I love most Asian (from the Orient)
food. There is a Japanese meet salad that is definitely to die for that I
make often as well. That's a great idea to use PSP to create cookbook
covers. Maybe I could come up with a good cover for the pile I printed out
from the top secret recipes site. Ever go there? It has recipes for all the
famous products sold on shelves in North America, even KFC's chick coating,
coleslaw, and my favourite Bailey's Irish Cream!

Take care,
Linda

SAGOTEB

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

"Linda Nieuwenstein" <buzzball@REMOVETHIS-allstream.net> wrote in message news:437cf501$1_2@cnews...
>
>
>
> LOL, me too.
>
> St. Nicholas is actually what some people are mixing up as Sinter Klass. Sinter Klass is just a rip off of the North American's
> very commerical Scanty Claws

The other way around actually.
When the Dutch colonists traveled to America, they brought with them
their Sinterklaas, an austere bishop who wore a red bishop's costume
and rode on a white horse.
The American image of Sinterklaas would gradually evolve
into that of a jolly old elf. He was first described as a plump and jolly
old Dutchman by Washington Irving in his comic History of New York.
In 1823 Sinterklaas/Saint Nicholas' metamorphosis continued with the
publication of Clement Moore's poem, A Visit from St. Nicholas
(Twas the night before Christmas...).
In the 1860s cartoonist Thomas Nast drew pictures of a plump
and kindly Santa Claus for the illustrated Harper's Weekly. This image
of Santa Claus was becoming ingrained in the minds of the American
people. As time went on this image of Santa Claus traveled across the
globe, back to Europe, to South America, and elsewhere.

conclusion, Santa is the rip off ;-)))

>and actually holds zero historical significance in Holland, unlike St. Nicholas and his assistant Pete who are barely even
>acknowledged in modern times according to many Nederlander folk.
>
> Take care,
> Linda
>
>
>
>

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

"SAGOTEB" wrote
> The other way around actually.
> When the Dutch colonists traveled to America, they brought with them
> their Sinterklaas, an austere bishop who wore a red bishop's costume
> and rode on a white horse.
> The American image of Sinterklaas would gradually evolve
> into that of a jolly old elf. He was first described as a plump and jolly
> old Dutchman by Washington Irving in his comic History of New York.
> In 1823 Sinterklaas/Saint Nicholas' metamorphosis continued with the
> publication of Clement Moore's poem, A Visit from St. Nicholas
> (Twas the night before Christmas...).
> In the 1860s cartoonist Thomas Nast drew pictures of a plump
> and kindly Santa Claus for the illustrated Harper's Weekly. This image
> of Santa Claus was becoming ingrained in the minds of the American
> people. As time went on this image of Santa Claus traveled across the
> globe, back to Europe, to South America, and elsewhere.
>
> conclusion, Santa is the rip off ;-)))
>

I stand corrected :-) Not that it matters much to me where Scanty Claws came
from since it holds no significance to me at all. I thought the Dutch St.
Nicholas was never associated with December 25th in the Nederlands, only Dec
6th...something to do with cheering the children up.

Take care,
Linda

tspillman

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

Linda Nieuwenstein wrote:
>
>
> What is erwtensoep? My favourite was Koors oxtail (ban here now...something
> dangerous about the process if memory serves)
>
> Holland has lots of good things that are hard to get here, but then again
> when family comes here they say the same.
>
> Take care,
> Linda
>
>
>
>
Split pea soup, thick and hearty with smoked sausage and ham hock.

They also use celeriac in many versions, something I've never had in
split pea soup here..

Delicious!

Tom

SAGOTEB

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

"SAGOTEB" wrote in message news:437d02c2_3@cnews...
>
>
> "Linda Nieuwenstein" wrote
>
> Very often heard slogan here, "Still at the same price!", (but you only
> get half of
> what it used to be :-)) I guess it's not different elsewhere.
>

hehehe, and I bet you didn't even have to run to the cupboard to know those
names :-) Thanks for providing them.

I like the slogan, and yes it holds true for many Canadian products too. It
is probably a global thing...more air for everyone at the right price ha!

Take care,
Linda

Joëlle

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

Joëlle

2005-11-17, 6:50 pm

"Linda Nieuwenstein" <buzzball@REMOVETHIS-allstream.net> wrote in message
news:437cf9fd$1_1@cnews...
>
>
> "Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
> news:437a379b_1@cnews...
>
> LOL Joëlle, I just ate Dutch Indonesian rice today made with a Nasi Goreng
> mixture. I added diced chicken and pan fried it using olive oil. I am so
> addicted to that dish I often make it. I have a cookbook made by the
> company with lots of good meal recipes in it.
>
> I so envy you to have been in Singapore! I love most Asian (from the
> Orient) food. There is a Japanese meet salad that is definitely to die for
> that I make often as well. That's a great idea to use PSP to create
> cookbook covers. Maybe I could come up with a good cover for the pile I
> printed out from the top secret recipes site. Ever go there? It has
> recipes for all the famous products sold on shelves in North America, even
> KFC's chick coating, coleslaw, and my favourite Bailey's Irish Cream!
>
> Take care,
> Linda
>
>
Hey, maybe we could get Co rel to add a new cookery section to their
program! That would certainly set it apart from the others.
:-)
Joëlle

RonaldV

2005-11-18, 6:34 pm

>... That's a great idea to use PSP to create cookbook
>covers. Maybe I could come up with a good cover for the pile I printed out
>from the top secret recipes site. Ever go there? It has recipes for all the
>famous products sold on shelves in North America, even KFC's chick coating,
>coleslaw, and my favourite Bailey's Irish Cream!
>
>Take care,
>Linda
>

Hey! Let's work that into a Challenge Theme! A real one, an ethnic
cookbook cover, designer's choice of food.

All it has to be is enticing, like so many of these descriptions have
been. Text, of course, to title the make-believe book and describe
the contents.

What say???

RonV
Tangling with the Python

Joëlle

2005-11-18, 6:34 pm

"RonaldV" <RonVick@NoSpam.me> wrote in message
news:4cmrn19g9mr3ko1mgtb38sdpci97v1etq2@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> Hey! Let's work that into a Challenge Theme! A real one, an ethnic
> cookbook cover, designer's choice of food.
>
> All it has to be is enticing, like so many of these descriptions have
> been. Text, of course, to title the make-believe book and describe
> the contents.
>
> What say???
>
> RonV
> Tangling with the Python
>

That's a nice idea Ron, will have a twiddle as soon as I get the
inspiration!
:-))
Joëlle

Tracy Pori

2005-11-18, 6:34 pm

Jo=EBlle wrote:
> "Tracy Pori" <digitalartresources@charter.net> wrote in message=20
> news:437bbe02$1_1@cnews...
>=20
> Michelle wrote:
>=20
>=20
> I second that!
>=20
>=20
>=20
> This particular chocolate only adds calories to virtual hips...:-))
>=20
>=20
>=20
Got those too. my friend calls it the "computer spread"!

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-18, 6:34 pm

"Joëlle" wrote...
>
>
> "RonaldV" wrote in message
>
> That's a nice idea Ron, will have a twiddle as soon as I get the
> inspiration!
> :-))
> Joëlle

I'll put my seconds in for that being a great idea Ron. How about throwing
in a real recipe? Each person includes a favourite recipe on the cover like
a 'taster' of what's inside the cookbook?

I'm not sure how these challenges work. I've seen people posting their
challenge results but have never seen the actual challenges being posted.
Are there rules to follow or is it do whatever feels best at the time? Can
you start one for your challenge or do you have to wait your turn?

Take care,
Linda

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-18, 6:34 pm

"Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
news:437d0f45_1@cnews...
>
> Hey, maybe we could get Co rel to add a new cookery section to their
> program! That would certainly set it apart from the others.
> :-)
> Joëlle

With the ever increasing number of people who are taking up cooking as a
hobby I'd say Corel would be wise to come up with a really good
cookbook/recipe card generator. One that has a library of pictures of
various dishes, types of meat, types of veggies, types of spices and so on.
These pictures could be pasted into a recipe book page (each page is like a
card for easy printing). Users could also import pictures of dishes they've
made, and add text for the instructions. Pictures could be corrected for
color (take some features from PSP or even make the cookbook generator a
plugin for PSP or CPA 6). There are a ton of other features they could add
like a grocery list generator. The person would enter the names of the
recipes they want to make in the next week (for instance) and the software
would pump out a listing of all the ingredients they'll need to accomplish
their cooking goals for that week. Just sitting here I can think of many
more useful things that could be useful in said program.

Take care,
Linda

Joëlle

2005-11-18, 6:34 pm

"Linda Nieuwenstein" <buzzball@REMOVETHIS-allstream.net> wrote in message
news:437e5503$1_2@cnews...
>
>
> "Joëlle" <makingmerry@inSussex.com> wrote in message
> news:437d0f45_1@cnews...
>
> With the ever increasing number of people who are taking up cooking as a
> hobby I'd say Corel would be wise to come up with a really good
> cookbook/recipe card generator. One that has a library of pictures of
> various dishes, types of meat, types of veggies, types of spices and so
> on. These pictures could be pasted into a recipe book page (each page is
> like a card for easy printing). Users could also import pictures of dishes
> they've made, and add text for the instructions. Pictures could be
> corrected for color (take some features from PSP or even make the cookbook
> generator a plugin for PSP or CPA 6). There are a ton of other features
> they could add like a grocery list generator. The person would enter the
> names of the recipes they want to make in the next week (for instance) and
> the software would pump out a listing of all the ingredients they'll need
> to accomplish their cooking goals for that week. Just sitting here I can
> think of many more useful things that could be useful in said program.
>
> Take care,
> Linda
>
>

Hehe, your little grey cells are working overtime! Wonderful.:-))

It certainly would make PSP interesting to a large section of the population
who might need a bit of a push at the moment.
I wonder how long it would be before the 'other lot' would muscle in on
this...and come up with Cookery Elements 1 or something.

I must start thinking about a book cover..

:-)
Joëlle

Joëlle

2005-11-18, 6:34 pm

"Tracy Pori" <digitalartresources@charter.net> wrote in message
news:437e4d78_1@cnews...

Joëlle wrote:
> "Tracy Pori" <digitalartresources@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:437bbe02$1_1@cnews...
>
> Michelle wrote:
>
>
> I second that!
>
>
>
> This particular chocolate only adds calories to virtual hips...:-))
>
>
>
Got those too. my friend calls it the "computer spread"!

Hmm, we can't win can we ?! :-(

Joëlle

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-18, 6:34 pm

"Joëlle" wrote
> Hehe, your little grey cells are working overtime! Wonderful.:-))
>
> It certainly would make PSP interesting to a large section of the
> population who might need a bit of a push at the moment.
> I wonder how long it would be before the 'other lot' would muscle in on
> this...and come up with Cookery Elements 1 or something.
>
> I must start thinking about a book cover..
>
> :-)
> Joëlle
>

LOL, yes your idea really had my grey cells working because the idea made
perfect sense almost immediately upon reading it. Most of what is needed is
in PSP already (less the relevant libraries [like pictures of food, spices,
terms, etc...]) The plugin would have to bring all those features together
though so those only interested in recipe card/book creation could do it as
easily as possible without having to fiddle around in menues riddled with
useless (to their needs) commands.

Yeah I'm going to try the cover thing too. I hope Ron makes the challenge a
reality.

Take care,
Linda

Joëlle

2005-11-20, 7:13 pm

"Linda Nieuwenstein" <buzzball@REMOVETHIS-allstream.net> wrote in message
news:437cf268$1_2@cnews...
>
>
> "Joëlle" wrote
>
> If it is any consequence the chocolate hagelslag is nothing like it was 20
> years ago (real Dutch chocolate). It is fake chocolate (carob) now, same
> brand name as always. I also get the aniseed hagelslag (forget the
> official names on the boxes...too lazy to the cupboard right now, but one
> is pink and white balls with a seed in the middle, and the other is
> crystalized white aniseed in hash shape about the length of chocolate
> hagelslag). Neither of the latter have changed much over the years other
> than getting less in the box for a greatly increased price.
>
> Koor's soups have gone to pot in my opinion. Oxtail soup isn't even sold
> as part of their product line.
>
> I so miss European smoked eel! Nothing like the big, fatty smoked eel one
> would get around here, yuck! The street markets are a big loss too. We
> have a Dutch street market on Sundays inside an old brewer's market but
> nothing as grand or wide in scope as a real Dutch street market!
>
> Take care,
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>

Hmm, I missed this post somehow..........

Hi Linda,
Yes YES, I miss Paling, even the Paling I buy here which is supposed to be
Dutch, isn't anything like the one's I used to buy in the Market in the
centre of The Hague. Lots of stalls selling paling, heaven!
I have bought it at the airport (Schiphol), but again, it doesn't taste very
good - too bland and a terrible texture.
I haven't bought Knorr soups for years. I think our taste also changes, so
what we thought was nice then, might not be to our taste now.
Except for Hagelslag of old, which has vanished. I bought something
resembling milk chocolate hagelslag not so long ago, it tasted awful and I
threw it away. The packet said it was made in Holland, but had an English
brand name.
So many things change and rarely do they get better. Such a shame.

All is not lost on the taste front, we are (a group of us) off to France to
partake in the St.Martin de Boscherville (Upper Normandy) Christmas market.
Guess what we are taking: English local produce. We have some amazingly good
local small producers here, so this will be fun!
:-))
Joëlle

Linda Nieuwenstein

2005-11-21, 7:01 pm

"Joëlle" wrote...
>
>
> "Linda Nieuwenstein" wrote...
>
> Hi Linda,
> Yes YES, I miss Paling, even the Paling I buy here which is supposed to be
> Dutch, isn't anything like the one's I used to buy in the Market in the
> centre of The Hague. Lots of stalls selling paling, heaven!
> I have bought it at the airport (Schiphol), but again, it doesn't taste
> very good - too bland and a terrible texture.
> I haven't bought Knorr soups for years. I think our taste also changes, so
> what we thought was nice then, might not be to our taste now.
> Except for Hagelslag of old, which has vanished. I bought something
> resembling milk chocolate hagelslag not so long ago, it tasted awful and I
> threw it away. The packet said it was made in Holland, but had an English
> brand name.
> So many things change and rarely do they get better. Such a shame.
>
> All is not lost on the taste front, we are (a group of us) off to France
> to partake in the St.Martin de Boscherville (Upper Normandy) Christmas
> market.
> Guess what we are taking: English local produce. We have some amazingly
> good local small producers here, so this will be fun!
> :-))
> Joëlle
>

Thanks for the real name, Paling. The next time I hit Dutch soil it will be
one of the first things on the menu.

You are right that tastes change over time and this can be a factor in no
longer liking particular items like Knorr (I used to love the ox tail soup
they made). Though like you I find the hagelslag I've bought over the years
has changed, not my taste for it. The Canadian-Dutch community is huge here,
and even bigger in places like Ontario Canada (where the majority of the
Dutch product is first imported to before redistribution to Canadian-Dutch
owned stores across Canada). We even have Canadian-Dutch newspapers like
'The Windmill'.

Oh you are sooooooooooo lucky to be off to France. I haven't been for a good
many years. I hope you take lots of pictures and share some of them over in
the Photography group. It is also great that you are taking local products
with you. Cultural exchange can be so much fun :0)

Take care,
Linda

Joëlle

2005-11-21, 7:01 pm

"Linda Nieuwenstein" <buzzball@REMOVETHIS-allstream.net> wrote in message
news:4381e16d$1_2@cnews...
>
>
> "Joëlle" wrote...
>
> Thanks for the real name, Paling. The next time I hit Dutch soil it will
> be one of the first things on the menu.
>
> You are right that tastes change over time and this can be a factor in no
> longer liking particular items like Knorr (I used to love the ox tail soup
> they made). Though like you I find the hagelslag I've bought over the
> years has changed, not my taste for it. The Canadian-Dutch community is
> huge here, and even bigger in places like Ontario Canada (where the
> majority of the Dutch product is first imported to before redistribution
> to Canadian-Dutch owned stores across Canada). We even have Canadian-Dutch
> newspapers like 'The Windmill'.
>
> Oh you are sooooooooooo lucky to be off to France. I haven't been for a
> good many years. I hope you take lots of pictures and share some of them
> over in the Photography group. It is also great that you are taking local
> products with you. Cultural exchange can be so much fun :0)
>
> Take care,
> Linda
>
>

Thanks Linda, bar anything going wrong we will be on the midnight ferry on
Friday. The weather forecast is for arctic weather (!), but it should be
good fun.
Just as well shops are warm! :-))

Joëlle