Website Design Forum - Framed Based Web Site - Do I start over or make it 'work' ?

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Framed Based Web Site - Do I start over or make it 'work' ?

2007-05-21, 6:19 pm

Up to about 2001 I considered myself a guru with doing websites. I
took a few years off and did other type of work, and recently did a
frame-based website for a department of a large company.

Now I am faced with criticism from someone that wants me to adopt a
template that some of the other company's departments are using. The
template, IMO sucks. It has a required menu on the left, and top, and
has a required background color.

The template is a great idea but it does not suit the needs of the
department I represent.

So the type of things I am being criticized for are being

- Frames. You cannot book mark directly to sublinks.
- ADA - Can a frame based website be ADA compliant?

Anyway, my boss does not want to use the template either. I showed
him the frame-based site, if I converted it to all tables, however he
did not like it.

I guess what I am after here is a good argument that cancels out any
negative comments about using frames, and how to get around the
limitation of not bookmarking subpages easily and being ADA compliant.

Thanks,

Adrienne Boswell

2007-05-21, 6:19 pm

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed g <scoobygeorge@XXXXXXXXXX> writing
in news:1179755996.371370.107840@x18g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

> Up to about 2001 I considered myself a guru with doing websites. I
> took a few years off and did other type of work, and recently did a
> frame-based website for a department of a large company.
>
> Now I am faced with criticism from someone that wants me to adopt a
> template that some of the other company's departments are using. The
> template, IMO sucks. It has a required menu on the left, and top, and
> has a required background color.
>
> The template is a great idea but it does not suit the needs of the
> department I represent.
>
> So the type of things I am being criticized for are being
>
> - Frames. You cannot book mark directly to sublinks.
> - ADA - Can a frame based website be ADA compliant?
>
> Anyway, my boss does not want to use the template either. I showed
> him the frame-based site, if I converted it to all tables, however he
> did not like it.
>
> I guess what I am after here is a good argument that cancels out any
> negative comments about using frames, and how to get around the
> limitation of not bookmarking subpages easily and being ADA compliant.
>
> Thanks,
>
>

Yes, get rid of frames
No, do not abuse tables
Yes, use server side includes
Yes, use CSS
Yes, use semantic markup

<div id="header">
<h1>Your title here</h1>
</div>
<div id="nav">
<ul>
<li>Your list item here</li>
</ul>
</div>
<div id="content">
<h2>Your second level heading here</h2>
</div>
<div id="footer">
</div>

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