Website Design Forum - Re: Firefox and IE 7 and divs, etc!

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Re: Firefox and IE 7 and divs, etc!

2007-11-20, 6:19 pm

On Nov 20, 11:55 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> If most people view the site on 1280px, then it will breathe as
> freely as the designers want *even if* it was designed to also
> shrink fit better at lesser widths.

No, it is a common mistake to think and especially to make a page
layout where forming blocks either "collapse" into some bag pack or
"extends" to the density of stars on the night sky at the bad weather:
all following the available size.
A too crowded design is irritating to eyes, so the same for a design
where your eyes have to navigate across huge empty areas from one
block to another. If asked what is the worst from two I would be
really hesitating what to say. There is some min-width you don't want
to go below in any case: user has to either scroll, or to extend the
browser window, or to buy a descent monitor, or to go to hell
whatsoever ("Webpunks are not welcome!", remember ;-) Same there is
some max-width you don't want to exceed.

> If it is viewed at 900 or 800
> or less than how does it actually breath?

Why asking me? Just check it yourself. Lesser than some min-width, the
blocks stop collapsing on each other and one has to scroll or see
other options a bit atop.

> Is it a sort of
> counterfactual breathing? (if I use my mouse to scroll
> horizontally. I will experience the liberating spaces that are
> there, bit by bit....)

See atop ;-)

> See anything a bit unfair about you reducing my complaint about
> "less than 1000" to things like "the occasional 640.."?

640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, further the series of all modern monitors
with bigger numbers. I am not aware of any models between 640x480 and
800x600, or between 800x600 and 1024x768 - I am not just talking about
"being in any use" but simply ever produced by any manufacturer. So to
what else should I reduce your complain?

>
> I am complaining about the choice and you think it worthwhile to
> say that it is the chosen model?

For each design will be always who just love it, who doesn't like it
and who just hate it. The question is who are they and how many of
these from the first group and how much do you bother for the last two
groups. H&H has 125 position questionnaire where the company has to
define their target audience, expected site usage etc. Atop H&H put
the common requirements (easy to find the information, accessibility
etc) and they monitor the feedback from users by usage categories
(because a stock holder, a journalist, a potential investor etc. may
have very different ideas where and how something should be
presented). Telecom Italia is on the top this year because by all this
H&H criteria they did better than others. Of course can be and should
be a number of dorayme, Dick and Stanley who dislike it. But this is
also what is paid to H&H by the company - and H&H prices are not low
at all - this is the guarantee that this last category of visitors
will be safe to disregard, both by possible income loss criterion and
by legal responsibility criterion.