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guide to ie7

Chris Sharman

2006-07-10, 7:41 pm

Anyone seen a web developers' guide to ie7 ?

I've looked around on the microsoft site, and there's a little
information buried in the marketing fluff, but not much - unless I
missed it.
I downloaded & ran the ie7 readiness toolkit setup.exe, but the whole
thing has a half-baked rough and ready feel - it tells me to find and
run images, rather than having installed them in my start menu, and that
kind of thing.
In any case, being an old cynic, I'd sooner read an independent guide.

Thanks
Chris

Adrienne Boswell

2006-07-10, 7:41 pm

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Chris Sharman
<chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writing in
news:e6ma1j$10d$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:

> Anyone seen a web developers' guide to ie7 ?
>
> I've looked around on the microsoft site, and there's a little
> information buried in the marketing fluff, but not much - unless I
> missed it.
> I downloaded & ran the ie7 readiness toolkit setup.exe, but the whole
> thing has a half-baked rough and ready feel - it tells me to find and
> run images, rather than having installed them in my start menu, and
> that kind of thing.
> In any case, being an old cynic, I'd sooner read an independent guide.
>

I don't think you're going to find a developer's guide, per se, but you
will find discussions in blogs and such. You might want to google for
IE7 CSS and see what you can find.

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Chris Sharman

2006-07-10, 7:41 pm

Adrienne Boswell wrote:
> Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Chris Sharman
> <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writing in
> news:e6ma1j$10d$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:
>
>
> I don't think you're going to find a developer's guide, per se, but you
> will find discussions in blogs and such. You might want to google for
> IE7 CSS and see what you can find.

They seem fairly negative on the whole, about css fixes and the like -
not clear whether that's mostly beta1, and beta2 is good, or whether
beta2 still leaves a lot to be desired too.

I was more concerned about things newly broken in the name of security ...

Popups now must have address bars (will presumably need resizing to
allow for it, unless the chrome reductions compensate).

Cross-domain scripting issues - I thought there were already pretty
severe restrictions on those - I remember having to move a calendar
popup onto the originating website to allow it to return a value - but
perhaps that was for fx, and ie's catching up.

Most of the ie hacks to workaround broken css seem to have gone.
Not sure how much use they are - the ms conditional comments seem to be
sound, supported (as conditionals by ms, as comments by the rest of the
world), clear and concise.

Protected mode and activex restrictions sound like they'll only affect
pages using highly proprietary stuff.

Doesn't yet seem to be a fireproof way to install ie7 without breaking
ie6 ...

Sounds like we may still be many months (and betas) off a final release
- although ie7 (2.5%) has already overtaken ie5 on some of our websites.

Thanks
Chris

Adrienne Boswell

2006-07-10, 7:41 pm

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Chris Sharman
<chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writing in
news:e6op48$le9$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:

> Doesn't yet seem to be a fireproof way to install ie7 without breaking
> ie6 ...
>
> Sounds like we may still be many months (and betas) off a final
> release - although ie7 (2.5%) has already overtaken ie5 on some of our
> websites.
>
>

You can install IE7 as a stand alone
<http://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/ar.../28/434132.aspx> has
instructions. I have it and IE3, IE4, IE5.2, IE5.6, and IE6 all working
very nicely together. <http://browsers.evolt.org/> has the older IEs.

M$ has publicly announced that IE7 will not pass the Acid2 test, and
they don't seem to care about it, either. Interesting reading
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid2> and
<http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/acid/>.

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Chris Sharman

2006-07-10, 7:41 pm

Adrienne Boswell wrote:
> Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Chris Sharman
> <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writing in
> news:e6op48$le9$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:
>
>
> You can install IE7 as a stand alone
> <http://weblogs.asp.net/jgalloway/ar.../28/434132.aspx> has
> instructions. I have it and IE3, IE4, IE5.2, IE5.6, and IE6 all working
> very nicely together. <http://browsers.evolt.org/> has the older IEs.

I've had 4, 5.0, 5.5, 6 working for a while.
http://www.last-child.com/run-ie7-a...browser-window/
suggests that 7 beta isn't very stable.

I tried installing ie7 according to John Galloway's instructions -
clicking on most of the buttons I get "The procedure entry point
InternetGetSecurityInfoByURLW could not be located in the dynamic lick
library WININET.dll" - it's a "McAfee AutoUpdate: UpdaterUI.exe - Entry
Point Not Found" ok box. Guess my antivirus doesn't like it much.

Chris

Adrienne Boswell

2006-07-10, 7:41 pm

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Chris Sharman
<chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> writing in
news:e6r6qo$r93$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk:

> Adrienne Boswell wrote:
>
> I've had 4, 5.0, 5.5, 6 working for a while.
> http://www.last-child.com/run-ie7-a...browser-window/
> suggests that 7 beta isn't very stable.
>
> I tried installing ie7 according to John Galloway's instructions -
> clicking on most of the buttons I get "The procedure entry point
> InternetGetSecurityInfoByURLW could not be located in the dynamic lick
> library WININET.dll" - it's a "McAfee AutoUpdate: UpdaterUI.exe -
> Entry Point Not Found" ok box. Guess my antivirus doesn't like it
> much.
>
> Chris
>

I use AVG, maybe it doesn't care. But that's pretty funny that your AV
doesn't like it.

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