Multimedia support forum - Alternative for MS Producer 2003?

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Alternative for MS Producer 2003?

reader

2006-02-20, 3:34 am

Hi,

I have made some multimedia/web-page presentattions with MS Producer 2003
(
http://www.microsoft.com/office/pow...fo/default.mspx ).

Basically they are PowerPoint slides with "talknig head" video on a side.
Compilation and slide sync is easy and price/power-ratio of the program is
OK :)

Drawback is that MS Producer output (html-pages) are nicely visible only for
IE (Netscape works also, but outlook is pretty lame.) Firefox is not working
at all.

Is there any free or inexpensive and fresh alternatives?
(Real Media, Macromedia ...others?)

-AP-

Jose Ramirez

2006-02-20, 3:34 am

reader wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have made some multimedia/web-page presentattions with MS Producer 2003
> (
> http://www.microsoft.com/office/pow...fo/default.mspx ).
>
> Basically they are PowerPoint slides with "talknig head" video on a side.
> Compilation and slide sync is easy and price/power-ratio of the program is
> OK :)
>
> Drawback is that MS Producer output (html-pages) are nicely visible only for
> IE (Netscape works also, but outlook is pretty lame.) Firefox is not working
> at all.
>
> Is there any free or inexpensive and fresh alternatives?
> (Real Media, Macromedia ...others?)
>
> -AP-
>
>

Hello,

You can try SMIL 2 on RealPlayer, only drawback is there's no standard
text media yet. Hopefully this year the W3C will recommend Timed Text.

Here is a 1678KB SMIL file about 1 min. long, it's zipped to make sure
all the media is ready, a lot of quick syncing.

http://www.multimedia4everyone.com/amaranth/a_pop_4.zip

Good Luck,
Jose Ramirez

When Timed Text is ready, SMIL is ready,
to take over the Web :)

Heiko Recktenwald

2006-02-20, 3:34 am

Jose Ramirez wrote:
> reader wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> You can try SMIL 2 on RealPlayer, only drawback is there's no standard
> text media yet. Hopefully this year the W3C will recommend Timed Text.
>
> Here is a 1678KB SMIL file about 1 min. long, it's zipped to make sure
> all the media is ready, a lot of quick syncing.
>
> http://www.multimedia4everyone.com/amaranth/a_pop_4.zip

Just downloading it.
The pity is that there are not more SMIL players than MS Producer
Players IMHO.

So what we have is less a technical, but an artistical problem:
How can we express what we want to say with the media we have?
HTML etc, MPEG 1, maybe MPEG 4.

H.
>
>
> Good Luck,
> Jose Ramirez
>
> When Timed Text is ready, SMIL is ready,
> to take over the Web :)
>
>
>
>
>

Jose Ramirez

2006-02-20, 3:34 am

Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
> Jose Ramirez wrote:
>
>
> Just downloading it.
> The pity is that there are not more SMIL players than MS Producer
> Players IMHO.
>
> So what we have is less a technical, but an artistical problem:
> How can we express what we want to say with the media we have?
> HTML etc, MPEG 1, maybe MPEG 4.
>
> H.

Hi,

I think it's still technical right now, it takes a long time for
languages to be develop.

When the W3C recommends something then is can be implemented, then it's
the publics choice to use it. I'm hoping with all my heart that they'll
be a lot of people using SMIL and Timed Text, that for the first time
ideas in the multimedia form will last as long as HTML pages, years
decades...

Right now, multimedia is in a pre-HTML phase, just proprietary stuff.
At one point in time there was one HTML page published now there's
billions. When there is safe place to store multimedia imagination lets
see what happens :)

Maybe this will take over:

J O S T

-Jpeg image formats/ png, gif

-Ogg media/ vorbis audio, theora video

-SMIL

-Timed Text

Jose Ramirez

Heiko Recktenwald

2006-02-20, 3:34 am

Hi,

> -Ogg media/ vorbis audio, theora video
>
Never understood why we need it.

Have you ever heard of a mp3 lawsuit against anybody who shouldnt be sued?

H.

http://mpegurl.blog.de -- Who owns the reel?

Jose Ramirez

2006-02-24, 10:26 am

Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Never understood why we need it.
>
> Have you ever heard of a mp3 lawsuit against anybody who shouldnt be sued?
>
>
> H.
>
>
> http://mpegurl.blog.de -- Who owns the reel?

Hi,

> -Ogg media/ vorbis audio, theora video
>
Never understood why we need it.

Have you ever heard of a mp3 lawsuit against anybody who shouldnt be sued?

H.

http://mpegurl.blog.de -- Who owns the reel?

Good Morning/afternoon/evening H,

It comes down to this, until the patents run out on mp3, your work save
in mp3 is under the control of the mp3 patent holders. The licensing may
be reasonable now, but it's their prerogative, the license can
be changed if they want. For the time being you don't really own
your work in mp3.

http://www.mp3licensing.com/help/index.html

When you use Vorbis to encode your audio, that audio is yours, just as
when you write something on a piece of paper, it's yours the paper
company doesn't say, 'if you make money off your work, you have to
pay us such and such'.

*********************************************************************

From the Vorbis faq:
http://vorbis.com/faq/#sell

Are there licensing fees for distributing, selling, or streaming media
in the Ogg Vorbis format?

No.

**********************************************************************

When the patents runs out on mp3, it'll make a fine addition to:

J O S T

-Jpeg image formats/ png, gif

-Ogg media/ vorbis audio, theora video and mp3 (in 2016?)

-SMIL

-Timed Text

Jose Ramirez

For those that think the US patent and copyright laws are crazy and need
to be fixed, go to http://ipaction.org

First we get sensible people in congress, get
sensible laws, then enjoy the next tech boom :)

Heiko Recktenwald

2006-02-24, 10:26 am

Jose Ramirez wrote:

> It comes down to this, until the patents run out on mp3, your work save
> in mp3 is under the control of the mp3 patent holders. The licensing may

Not the work of art but the stream. Shure, in theory they have every
right, the right to be an idiot, but they are not.

I dont care much about, see also gifs etc, and I dont understand why
some people in the GNU etc community want to be so "legal".

This "desktop legalism" is what puzzles me, I see no case for it.

But it is vendor and platform independent as well..

H.

> be reasonable now, but it's their prerogative, the license can
> be changed if they want. For the time being you don't really own
> your work in mp3.
>
> http://www.mp3licensing.com/help/index.html