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PSP 8 vs 9 vs X: To upgrade or not to upgrade
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| disposable@archsoc.com 2006-06-03, 7:20 pm |
| Hi All:
I currently have PSP 8.1. I was thinking of upgrading to PSP X, but the
impossibility of downloading it from the USA (I'm an Aussie) at an
upgrade discount, and some posts I have read here, make me think I
ought to move to PSP 9.
Any suggestions?
Thanks you for your time.
Yours,
Garry
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| Fred Hiltz 2006-06-03, 7:20 pm |
| disposable@archsoc.com wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I currently have PSP 8.1. I was thinking of upgrading to
> PSP X, but the impossibility of downloading it from the USA
> (I'm an Aussie) at an upgrade discount, and some posts I
> have read here, make me think I ought to move to PSP 9.
>
> Any suggestions?
It depends on how badly you want the additions in PSP 10. If partial
16 bit per channel support or a poorly implemented and documented
color management appeal to you, then by all means read the Corel PSP
10 newsgroup to gather opinions and suggestions.
http://tinyurl.com/2pt9o has its address and directions for
registration.
Otherwise, PSP 10 contains little more than PSP 9. (Well, it has
different bugs.) Most writers to the NG think its browser is
inferior, as do I. With a bit of shopping, PSP 9 can be had cheap at
US$20 - US$30 from eBay stores or Amazon every few weeks.
--
Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com
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| treker 2006-06-03, 7:20 pm |
| If you can find it, upgrade to 9.01, but steer clear of
X. I took that route, but immediately returned to 9. Corel
has made such a mess of the whole thing, it's a
disgrace! Nothing is the same!
On 2 Jun 2006 01:34:36 -0700, disposable@archsoc.com wrote:
>Hi All:
>
>I currently have PSP 8.1. I was thinking of upgrading to PSP X, but the
>impossibility of downloading it from the USA (I'm an Aussie) at an
>upgrade discount, and some posts I have read here, make me think I
>ought to move to PSP 9.
>
>Any suggestions?
>Thanks you for your time.
>Yours,
>Garry
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| Sally Beacham 2006-06-03, 7:20 pm |
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"treker" <treker1028@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cfr1825kqi8l53m2lcivf9h7m9g7v3uu70@4ax.com...
> If you can find it, upgrade to 9.01, but steer clear of
> X. I took that route, but immediately returned to 9. Corel
> has made such a mess of the whole thing, it's a
> disgrace! Nothing is the same!
I don't necessarily disagree with you about the merits of X over 9 - but why
would "Nothing is the same" be an issue?
Personally, I'd have preferred lots of new tools and features, which would
mean lots of things aren't the same.
--
Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro 8 Zero to Hero
Digital Scrapbooking (Course Technology)
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| "Sally Beacham" <catintheh@t.com> wrote in
news:e5qt3u0qol@news3.newsguy.com:
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> "treker" <treker1028@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cfr1825kqi8l53m2lcivf9h7m9g7v3uu70@4ax.com...
>
> I don't necessarily disagree with you about the merits of X
over 9 -
> but why would "Nothing is the same" be an issue?
>
> Personally, I'd have preferred lots of new tools and features,
which
> would mean lots of things aren't the same.
>
>
I have to second Sally's perspective. You don't want things to
be "the same" with a newer version, although I suspect treker
means he/she can't find stuff that was available in versions
previous to X, and X did make that kind of difficult.
That said, the biggest problem with v.X is simply that it doesn't
provide even "several" new tools/features that make it worth
purchasing or can't be done quite easily - and often better -
with the tools in v.9.
v.9 provided a few but quite great extras from v.8 - CA Removal,
DCNR, and Selective Undo come to mind, and it didn't look the
same as v.8, but was easily worth the learning curve regarding
the interface changes because of the usefulness of the new tools.
Just my 2 cents (Cdn) worth, adjusted for inflation 'cause I'm
wordy.
Regards,
JoeB
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| Brendan R. Wehrung 2006-06-03, 7:20 pm |
| (disposable@archsoc.com) writes:
> Hi All:
>
> I currently have PSP 8.1. I was thinking of upgrading to PSP X, but the
> impossibility of downloading it from the USA (I'm an Aussie) at an
> upgrade discount, and some posts I have read here, make me think I
> ought to move to PSP 9.
>
> Any suggestions?
> Thanks you for your time.
> Yours,
> Garry
>
I bought X because I got it for $30 (US) after rebate, but there is no
real imperative to go beyond 9, which does most of the same things. I
like the automatic features of X that are damned by some here, but if your
only need is for quality, 9 provides that, and you ought to get it
cheaply. I'm trying to remember if the patches were as large as the
program, however. My guess is that X's successor will be more
interesting, after PhotoPaint and it cross-polinate.
Brendan
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| treker wrote:
> If you can find it, upgrade to 9.01, but steer clear of
> X.
Hey, it just proves Corel can turn any software, they acquire, into crap.
:-)
Uni
I took that route, but immediately returned to 9. Corel[color=darkred]
> has made such a mess of the whole thing, it's a
> disgrace! Nothing is the same!
>
> On 2 Jun 2006 01:34:36 -0700, disposable@archsoc.com wrote:
>
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| disposable@archsoc.com wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I currently have PSP 8.1. I was thinking of upgrading to PSP X, but the
> impossibility of downloading it from the USA (I'm an Aussie) at an
> upgrade discount, and some posts I have read here, make me think I
> ought to move to PSP 9.
>
> Any suggestions?
Just go to the store and find the cheapest graphics software, like
Brendan does, and it should be good enough. Let's face it, only amateurs
use PSP. Even though Jasc Software, Inc. felt they could give Adobe's
Photoshop a run for their money, they failed and went out of business.
Not a sound investment.
Uni
> Thanks you for your time.
> Yours,
> Garry
>
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| ck183@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Brendan R. Wehrung) wrote in
news:e5r7qn$n3j$1@theodyn.ncf.ca:
> (disposable@archsoc.com) writes:
X, but[color=darkred]
Aussie) at[color=darkred]
think I[color=darkred]
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>
> I bought X because I got it for $30 (US) after rebate, but
there is no
> real imperative to go beyond 9, which does most of the same
things. I
> like the automatic features of X that are damned by some here,
but if
> your only need is for quality, 9 provides that, and you ought
to get
> it cheaply. I'm trying to remember if the patches were as
large as
> the program, however.
No, the patches weren't as large as the program, but Windows
displayed the file size of the installed patches as if it was a
total of the program itself and the patch, which did confuse
people.
Regards,
JoeB
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| Gary W. Vanderbur wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 10:34:33 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
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> < snip! >
>
>
>
> Y'know, I thought I just heard the wind blow.
Best check your briefs.
:-)
>
> Did anyone else here something or was it just a figment of my
> imagination.
PSP sales are down. No imagination required.
:-)
Uni
>
> Regards,
>
> Vandy
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| treker 2006-06-08, 7:33 pm |
| On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 22:45:24 -0400, "Sally Beacham" <catintheh@t.com>
wrote:
>
>"treker" <treker1028@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:cfr1825kqi8l53m2lcivf9h7m9g7v3uu70@4ax.com...
Corel >> has made such a mess of the whole thing, it's a
>
>I don't necessarily disagree with you about the merits of X over 9 - but why
>would "Nothing is the same" be an issue?
>
>Personally, I'd have preferred lots of new tools and features, which would
>mean lots of things aren't the same.
What I mean is that Corel has taken the best features of 9.01 and
repositioned them to suit themselves. The Browser, for example, is
just a row of images across the bottom of the interface that can only
be opened one at a time. I prefer the one in 9 that opens all of the
thumbnails in descending rows customized by a size you designate, not
the creators.
The application also wreaked havoc on other graphics programs I
have installed on my computer, such as ACDSee Photo Manager
which I use to view images online and off. It also messed up other
programs when I deleted it, and I don't need that kind of aggravation.
As far as I'm concerned, 9.01 works fine and X just doesn't.
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| treker <treker1028@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:mdg482ljpab9kkam4g9m0ramutckl95pqn@4ax.com:
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 22:45:24 -0400, "Sally Beacham"
<catintheh@t.com>
> wrote:
>
> Corel >> has made such a mess of the whole thing, it's a
over 9 -[color=darkred]
which[color=darkred]
>
> What I mean is that Corel has taken the best features of 9.01
and
> repositioned them to suit themselves. The Browser, for example,
is
> just a row of images across the bottom of the interface that
can only
> be opened one at a time. I prefer the one in 9 that opens all
of the
> thumbnails in descending rows customized by a size you
designate, not
> the creators.
> The application also wreaked havoc on other graphics programs I
> have installed on my computer, such as ACDSee Photo Manager
> which I use to view images online and off. It also messed up
other
> programs when I deleted it, and I don't need that kind of
aggravation.
> As far as I'm concerned, 9.01 works fine and X just doesn't.
>
The fact that you don't know how to use a program doesn't
necessarily mean that a program doesn't work. While things
didn't work well with the original program, it has had 3 patches
(10.01, 10.02 and 10.03), and most things that are supposed to
work do so. The browser is a paleltte now. You can put your
cursor on the edges of it and drag it to any size you want,
including making it large enough to fill your screen. There is a
magnifying glass option in the upper right of the palette that
you can drag and change the size of the thumbnails on the fly.
You can select as many images as you want and open them all at
once. And you can undock the palette and change the options to
make it roll up just like you can with the various palettes in
v.9.
It is one thing to have legitimate complaints about a program.
It is quite another thing to make criticisms that are simply
wrong, as is the case your specific criticisms of the browser.
As others haven't had issues with the PSPX installation or
uninstall "messing up" their other programs, if that occured to
you then I suspect it is system specific to you, or even more
likely user error. And most people don't delete programs but use
the uninstall features of the program and/or the operating
system.
Regards,
JoeB
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| Sally Beacham 2006-06-08, 7:33 pm |
|
"treker" <treker1028@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:mdg482ljpab9kkam4g9m0ramutckl95pqn@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 22:45:24 -0400, "Sally Beacham" <catintheh@t.com>
> wrote:
>
> Corel >> has made such a mess of the whole thing, it's a
>
> What I mean is that Corel has taken the best features of 9.01 and
> repositioned them to suit themselves.
Yes, I'm familiar with the issue of deprecated commands... they can all be
pulled right back out and put on a custom toolbar or menu. However, the
dread arises from the idea that the reason they were deprecated in the first
place is that perhaps they aren't going to exist in future versions.
>The Browser, for example, is
> just a row of images across the bottom of the interface that can only
> be opened one at a time. I prefer the one in 9 that opens all of the
> thumbnails in descending rows customized by a size you designate, not
> the creators.
For those who use multiple monitors, the browser can actually be an
improvement. (Although I personally don't much care, having handled all my
browsing needs in Windows Explorer since WinXP came out.) And yes - the
thumbnails can be set up in descending rows customized by a size you
designate. Float the palette and use that little thingie that LOOKS like a
Zoom icon to change the thumbnail size. Although - frankly, i hate the
dropshadow that's automatically assigned to the thumbnails, looks cheesy.
> The application also wreaked havoc on other graphics programs I
> have installed on my computer, such as ACDSee Photo Manager
> which I use to view images online and off. It also messed up other
> programs when I deleted it, and I don't need that kind of aggravation.
As I said initially, I don't find much to merit recommending X over 9 (or
even 8) - but it hasn't wreaked havoc on any of my systems or caused issues
with any of my other applications. In fact, I find it much more stable than
previous versions.
--
Sally Beacham
www.dizteq.com / www.lvsonline.com
Paint Shop Pro 8 Zero to Hero
Digital Scrapbooking (Course Technology)
> As far as I'm concerned, 9.01 works fine and X just doesn't.
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| treker 2006-06-08, 7:33 pm |
| No disrespect to you, JoeB or anyone else for that matter. I did use
the system uninstall to remove the unwanted PSP X and the results were
nonetheless horrible. I had no intentions of installing the upgrade
patches when the initial install is not worth the trouble.
I just feel more comfortable with 9.01 and the balance it achieves
with my other graphics apps.
On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:37:32 GMT, JoeB <myemail@yahoo.com> wrote:
>other
>aggravation.
>
>The fact that you don't know how to use a program doesn't
>necessarily mean that a program doesn't work. While things
>didn't work well with the original program, it has had 3 patches
>(10.01, 10.02 and 10.03), and most things that are supposed to
>work do so. The browser is a paleltte now. You can put your
>cursor on the edges of it and drag it to any size you want,
>including making it large enough to fill your screen. There is a
>magnifying glass option in the upper right of the palette that
>you can drag and change the size of the thumbnails on the fly.
>You can select as many images as you want and open them all at
>once. And you can undock the palette and change the options to
>make it roll up just like you can with the various palettes in
>v.9.
>
>It is one thing to have legitimate complaints about a program.
>It is quite another thing to make criticisms that are simply
>wrong, as is the case your specific criticisms of the browser.
>
>As others haven't had issues with the PSPX installation or
>uninstall "messing up" their other programs, if that occured to
>you then I suspect it is system specific to you, or even more
>likely user error. And most people don't delete programs but use
>the uninstall features of the program and/or the operating
>system.
>
>Regards,
>
>JoeB
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| treker wrote:
> No disrespect to you, JoeB or anyone else for that matter. I did use
> the system uninstall to remove the unwanted PSP X and the results were
> nonetheless horrible.
Problem is, Corel has added spyware, to most everything they solicit,
which can cause system problems. Luckily, NAV can stop it before it does
damage.
Uni
I had no intentions of installing the upgrade[color=darkred]
> patches when the initial install is not worth the trouble.
> I just feel more comfortable with 9.01 and the balance it achieves
> with my other graphics apps.
>
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:37:32 GMT, JoeB <myemail@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
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| Uni wrote:
> treker wrote:
>
>
>
> Problem is, Corel has added spyware, to most everything they solicit,
> which can cause system problems. Luckily, NAV can stop it before it does
> damage.
>
As for the duo Beacham and Lacey, they'd continue to cheer on PSP, even
if alkida acquired it.
Uni
> Uni
>
> I had no intentions of installing the upgrade
>
>
>
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| treker <treker1028@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:an678299a20t4p2r60n3r0nevgrqn6g805@4ax.com:
> No disrespect to you, JoeB or anyone else for that matter. I
did use
> the system uninstall to remove the unwanted PSP X and the
results were
> nonetheless horrible. I had no intentions of installing the
upgrade
> patches when the initial install is not worth the trouble.
> I just feel more comfortable with 9.01 and the balance it
achieves
> with my other graphics apps.
>
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:37:32 GMT, JoeB <myemail@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
I[color=darkred]
patches[color=darkred]
a[color=darkred]
use[color=darkred]
>
Well, I'm still using v.9 also. Just didn't want to leave any
false impressions about what does or doesn't work in v.X.
Glad to hear you're comfy with 9, as are many of us in the Corel
groups.
Regards,
JoeB
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| Uni wrote:
> treker wrote:
>
>
> Problem is, Corel has added spyware, to most everything they solicit,
> which can cause system problems. Luckily, NAV can stop it before it
> does damage.
>
> Uni
>
No version of PSP adds any spyware at all.
Uni is an idiot, whose knowledge of PSP has always been poor, but even
that has declined markedly over the last few years.
Norton Antivirus is neither a good product, nor does it find anything
wrong with PSP.
--
Tim
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| Tim wrote:
> Uni wrote:
>
>
>
> No version of PSP adds any spyware at all.
> Uni is an idiot,
Bull, Tim!!!!!! I got a new Dell computer at work! It had PSP Studio or
whatever you call it! After I launched it, NAV stopped it from calling
home with info!!!!!!!
Uni
whose knowledge of PSP has always been poor, but even
> that has declined markedly over the last few years.
> Norton Antivirus is neither a good product, nor does it find anything
> wrong with PSP.
>
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