Paint Shop Pro support - help with rotating a "selection"

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help with rotating a "selection"

Tom Koch

2006-05-30, 6:47 pm

I am trying to place a rectangle shape on a photo and rotate it without
skewing and rotating that piece of the photo. In other words, I would like
to have a rotated rectangle on the photo that I can work with from there.
Every time I try, it rotates the piece of the picture that is under the
selection. Maybe I don't mean "selection". Maybe some other term pertains,
like floating selection??? Sorry I don't know how to word this better.

Fred Hiltz

2006-05-30, 6:47 pm

Tom Koch wrote:
> I am trying to place a rectangle shape on a photo and
> rotate it without skewing and rotating that piece of the
> photo. In other words, I would like to have a rotated
> rectangle on the photo that I can work with from there.
> Every time I try, it rotates the piece of the picture that
> is under the selection. Maybe I don't mean "selection".
> Maybe some other term pertains, like floating selection???
> Sorry I don't know how to word this better.

Selection terminology in image editors is indeed confusing. I am not
sure just what you want to accomplish here (place a small rotated
photo atop a larger background photo, maybe?).

A selection defines an area of the image to be affected by some
subsequent action: moving, copying, lightening, painting, clearing,
etc. When speaking loosely, we often fail to distinguish this
selection "container" from its contents. PSP 10's Help is no
exception.

I think you want to rotate a rectangular container without rotating
its contents. Here are two popular methods.

1. Create the rectangular selection with the Selection tool.
Selections > Edit Selection. Use the Pick tool to move, resize, and
rotate the selection, then toggle Selections > Edit Selection. (Help
omits this popular technique.)

2. Use the Rectangle tool to draw a vector rectangle. Adjust it with
the Pick tool, then Selections > From Vector Object. You may delete
the vector object, leaving the selection.

Now you can paint, clear, blur, darken, or otherwise change the
contents of the rotated container.

You may not need a selection at all. For example, to place and
rotate a small photo atop a large one, put it on a new layer with
Edit > Paste As New Layer. Adjust it there with the Pick tool.

If these steps do not do what you want, please write back with more
details.
--
Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com

Trev

2006-05-30, 6:47 pm

"Fred Hiltz" <not@home.ca> wrote in message
news:07-dnXjQi5p7t-HZnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> Tom Koch wrote:
>
> Selection terminology in image editors is indeed confusing. I am not
> sure just what you want to accomplish here (place a small rotated
> photo atop a larger background photo, maybe?).
>
> A selection defines an area of the image to be affected by some
> subsequent action: moving, copying, lightening, painting, clearing,
> etc. When speaking loosely, we often fail to distinguish this
> selection "container" from its contents. PSP 10's Help is no
> exception.
>
> I think you want to rotate a rectangular container without rotating
> its contents. Here are two popular methods.
>
> 1. Create the rectangular selection with the Selection tool.
> Selections > Edit Selection. Use the Pick tool to move, resize, and
> rotate the selection, then toggle Selections > Edit Selection. (Help
> omits this popular technique.)
>
> 2. Use the Rectangle tool to draw a vector rectangle. Adjust it with
> the Pick tool, then Selections > From Vector Object. You may delete
> the vector object, leaving the selection.
>
> Now you can paint, clear, blur, darken, or otherwise change the
> contents of the rotated container.
>
> You may not need a selection at all. For example, to place and
> rotate a small photo atop a large one, put it on a new layer with
> Edit > Paste As New Layer. Adjust it there with the Pick tool.
>
> If these steps do not do what you want, please write back with more
> details.
> --
> Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com
>
After Fred's Help I will go for the "I am trying to place a rectangle shape
on a photo and
rotate it without skewing and rotating that piece of the photo."

If you want what I think you want Like a border or frame the I see two ways,
there are always more.

Use a preset shape is one and it will be on its own layer so can be rotated
or distorted in other way independent of the other layers. Now that word
layers has appeared you can add a new layer and place a rectangle selection
that can be turned into a border and rotated or for that matter any object
on the new layer can be rotated independent of the layer below.
It now is just a case of knowing what you want to achieve as to what is the
way to go.

I might also add the Corel news groups at cnews.corel.com Have PSP groups
where we can post images to show what we are referring to. A picture is
worth a thousand word's well it is in binary.