Paint Shop Pro support - Help needed with Techjet, Canon, HP, Heidi Wide-Format-Printer, Plotter

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Help needed with Techjet, Canon, HP, Heidi Wide-Format-Printer, Plotter

goonmunster

2006-05-19, 7:02 pm

Please help me with the following problems. I recently received a
TechJet 5336 PS w/ postscript option. I am making the Techjet
available to our local Resident/Community Association to print posters
11x17 - 36x48 which are placed at various locations in the community,
in relation to various events.

I've been experimenting with various drivers and found that the Canon
W3050 - W9000, HP GL/2, HP 750C/PS all work with to some degree with
the Techjet 5336 under win2000 and/or Linux and/or OSX. However, I
noticed that it takes a very long time to print. This appears to be
related to the page-at-a-time mechanism used to print.

Does anyone know of other compatible
Postscript/CAD/Canon/Epson/Techjet/HP/Other drivers that work with the
Techjet 5336 PS that might work with the printer, under linux, win2k,
or winxp.

Does anyone know whether or not other manufacturers used a compatible
print-engine?

Can anyone tell me the difference between the Techjet 5336, 5436, 5636
print engines?

Does anyone know where I can find line-at-a-time drivers that might
work with the Techject 5336? Is there a way to con vine one of the
previously mentioned page-at-a-time drivers to print to the Techjet
5336 one line-at-a-time?

Does anyone know where I can find a relatively new compatible ROM for
the Techjet 5336?

The documentation says that the Techjet 5336 can accept upto 64 MB of
memory. In my experience the documented memory limit may be exceeded,
is that the case for the Techjet 5336?

Any help would be appreciated.

Please and Thank You

The Brockton Initiative
http://brockton./dyndns.org

v8z

2006-05-20, 4:26 am

We've still got an old techjet720c running under win2000 using the NT4.0
drivers from this site
http://www.calgraphinc.com/Support/CompleteTechJet.html , more info here
http://www.calgraphinc.com/Support/...or_calcomp_.htm
Appears that same driver will run 53xx,54xx,55xx,and 56xx.

We use canon bubble jet cartidges - BC-20 black or BC-21e color
memory expansion was done per manual, using 32-bit, non-parity,72-pin SIMM -
its been 10 years since I added the RAM, so I can't remember speed or
size....

"goonmunster" <egon.phillips@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:1148045784.515632.27870@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Please help me with the following problems. I recently received a
> TechJet 5336 PS w/ postscript option. I am making the Techjet
> available to our local Resident/Community Association to print posters
> 11x17 - 36x48 which are placed at various locations in the community,
> in relation to various events.
>
> I've been experimenting with various drivers and found that the Canon
> W3050 - W9000, HP GL/2, HP 750C/PS all work with to some degree with
> the Techjet 5336 under win2000 and/or Linux and/or OSX. However, I
> noticed that it takes a very long time to print. This appears to be
> related to the page-at-a-time mechanism used to print.
>
> Does anyone know of other compatible
> Postscript/CAD/Canon/Epson/Techjet/HP/Other drivers that work with the
> Techjet 5336 PS that might work with the printer, under linux, win2k,
> or winxp.
>
> Does anyone know whether or not other manufacturers used a compatible
> print-engine?
>
> Can anyone tell me the difference between the Techjet 5336, 5436, 5636
> print engines?
>
> Does anyone know where I can find line-at-a-time drivers that might
> work with the Techject 5336? Is there a way to con vine one of the
> previously mentioned page-at-a-time drivers to print to the Techjet
> 5336 one line-at-a-time?
>
> Does anyone know where I can find a relatively new compatible ROM for
> the Techjet 5336?
>
> The documentation says that the Techjet 5336 can accept upto 64 MB of
> memory. In my experience the documented memory limit may be exceeded,
> is that the case for the Techjet 5336?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Please and Thank You
>
> The Brockton Initiative
> http://brockton./dyndns.org
>

goonmunster

2006-05-20, 6:56 pm

Thanks for yhe tip v8z,

I tried the drivers you mentioned, but also read a few postings and
noticed that people were complaining about the calcomp drivers, so I
decided to look elsewhere. So far, the Canon W3050 drivers seem to
work best for me. I also noticed talk about OCE drivers which also
looked promising.

Last year a local architectural firm donated five color 36x48 posters
to the group, the printer/plotter used was brand new, and cost $15,000:
they would have cost us $750.00 - way out of our league. Using the
Canon W3050 drivers, AFAIKT there is very little difference in the
output, except that the default Techjet output is darker; which is not
a big deal.

In addition, the documentation says the Techjet can use upto 64 MB of
RAM; which will speed things up considerably. I tried a pair of 32 MB
Fast Page Mode (FPM), 70ns SIMMs and and a pair of EDO's, 60ns,
neither worked. I kept getting a memory slot 1 error. I was wondering
if there is something special about the memory? Do you remember
whether or not the techjet uses regular FPM Simms or FPMode - Static
Column or FPM - Nibble Mode?

v8z wrote:[color=darkred]
> We've still got an old techjet720c running under win2000 using the NT4.0
> drivers from this site
> http://www.calgraphinc.com/Support/CompleteTechJet.html , more info here
> http://www.calgraphinc.com/Support/...or_calcomp_.htm
> Appears that same driver will run 53xx,54xx,55xx,and 56xx.
>
> We use canon bubble jet cartidges - BC-20 black or BC-21e color
> memory expansion was done per manual, using 32-bit, non-parity,72-pin SIMM -
> its been 10 years since I added the RAM, so I can't remember speed or
> size....
>
>
> "goonmunster" <egon.phillips@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:1148045784.515632.27870@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

v8z

2006-05-22, 6:50 pm

Its been a long time since I installed the RAM ( 10 years...) and we have it
up on a wall mount shelf - would require pulling it down to get at the
access cover, and then trying to track down the spec on the SIMMs based on
the numbers on them - sorry, but don't have the time to do that. The manual
says non-parity, and the parts manual I have in pdf. from calgraphinc says:
23820-0018 KIT, MEMORY, 32MB, TJ COLOR GT/PS, 40MHZ

"goonmunster" <egon.phillips@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:1148132397.686116.141070@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks for yhe tip v8z,
>
> I tried the drivers you mentioned, but also read a few postings and
> noticed that people were complaining about the calcomp drivers, so I
> decided to look elsewhere. So far, the Canon W3050 drivers seem to
> work best for me. I also noticed talk about OCE drivers which also
> looked promising.
>
> Last year a local architectural firm donated five color 36x48 posters
> to the group, the printer/plotter used was brand new, and cost $15,000:
> they would have cost us $750.00 - way out of our league. Using the
> Canon W3050 drivers, AFAIKT there is very little difference in the
> output, except that the default Techjet output is darker; which is not
> a big deal.
>
> In addition, the documentation says the Techjet can use upto 64 MB of
> RAM; which will speed things up considerably. I tried a pair of 32 MB
> Fast Page Mode (FPM), 70ns SIMMs and and a pair of EDO's, 60ns,
> neither worked. I kept getting a memory slot 1 error. I was wondering
> if there is something special about the memory? Do you remember
> whether or not the techjet uses regular FPM Simms or FPMode - Static
> Column or FPM - Nibble Mode?
>
>
> v8z wrote:
SIMM -[color=darkred]
compatible[color=darkred]
>

goonmunster

2006-05-23, 7:00 pm

Don't bother pulling it apart, is there any way you can send me the pdf
manuals, I have paper manuals, but I find them a pain in the butt?

Thanks for all your help. Here's what I found.

The Techjet 5336 can produce what some friends on our street call
"Professional Quality Work" (18x30" in ~5mins) using the Canon W3050
driver, on Win2K, WinXP. The output is similar to a 1200 dpi color
laser.

I tried the calcomp drivers, they worked with text, but they failed
miserably with bitmaps. In addition, web searches revealed that
numerous others had similar issues/problems with the calcomp drivers A
few people tried the HP 750 drivers, but with varying degrees of
success.

AFAICT, canon's secret - the driver converts the entire document,
including text, line drawing to a bitmap of the appropriate resolution.
The canon driver, then sends the print-job to the printer a few lines
at a time. The processing is done by the host computers CPU. This
approach significantly reduces the printer/plotter processing to
switching color tables, removes the burden of scaling, and results in a
printjob that takes minutes instead of days. Most inkjet printers
appear to use this method. My guess is the Canon W3050 is the same
printer/plotter with makeup, as are many others.

Yes the Techjet 5336 is old, but like an older color laser techtronix,
or Optra, the output is hard to beat even with a plotter/printer
costing a $1000.00 or more. Since this came for $0.00 it was worth
spending a little time.

Thanks again,

EGON

--- alan w wrote
.............................................................
> The only driver I know of that will print raster images is the old calcomp
> driver that should still be on the calcomp website. However, you will need
> an old windows NT installation disk to complete the install. No one has
> ever updated the driver for xp. Once installled, it works pretty well under
> xp.
> Alan

> Carl wrote ............................................................
> If this printer is like the HP 750, it accepts both
> PostScript and also some variety of HP PCL. Again, if like the HP, the
> printer has a very small slow processor to render PostScript, and that
> is why it takes a long time to get ready to print.
>
> I have had great success with the HP using Ghostscript on a more capable
> computer to render PostScript into PCL, and then sending the PCL to
> the printer. This reduced the time to print a 36x48-inch image from
> overnight (perhaps 8 hours) to something like 40 minutes. That's 20
> minutes preparing the image, and 20 minutes printing. The actual time
> during which the print head is moving remains the same, but the setup
> time for the printer to render the image is essentially zero. The PCL
> produced by Ghostscript is the line-at-time data that you are asking for.
>
> carl