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How to join two maps at border?
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| Terry Pinnell 2005-06-14, 7:51 pm |
| I live just on the border of West Sussex and Surrey (with Kent not far
away either). I've made two JPGs of the border area from an aerial
map-viewing program plus CD, showing each county. I've illustrated
these with the following extracts (GIFs for economy of size):
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/...Home-Surrey.gif
http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/...ome-WSussex.gif
What is the easiest way to create a combined JPG from the two separate
JPGs please? FWIW, that grey seems to be a mixture of various greyish
colours.
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Terry, West Sussex, UK
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| Kris Zaklika 2005-06-14, 7:51 pm |
| Terry Pinnell wrote:
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> I live just on the border of West Sussex and Surrey (with Kent not far
> away either).
None of that is of any significance. The approach would be the
same if you lived in the outskirts of Ulan Bator or on the Plains
of Abraham or if you were pasting together images of something
other than maps.
> I've made two JPGs of the border area from an aerial
> map-viewing program plus CD, showing each county. I've illustrated
> these with the following extracts (GIFs for economy of size):
> http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/...Home-Surrey.gif
> http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/...ome-WSussex.gif
You can make small JPEGs just as well if not better.
> What is the easiest way to create a combined JPG from the two separate
> JPGs please?
What is your difficulty? The obvious way is to add a border to
the first image (Image > Add Border) and then Edit > Copy and
Edit > Paste > Paste As New Layer the second image onto the newly
created space or border. Alternatively, you could create a new
image large enough to hold both map images and paste each of them
into the new image as a layer. Why is that not working for you?
Is something else the problem for you? (By the way, once you open
the images in PSP they are no longer JPEGs.)
> FWIW, that grey seems to be a mixture of various greyish
> colours.
Yes, but so what? Why is that causing you difficulty? You
can match the grey in one image to the grey in another image
by using the Manual Color Correction filter and sampling the
grey from the first image while applying it to the second if
that is our problem. Alternatively you can use the Background
Eraser to erase all the grey in each of the map images before
assembling them together. Frankly, I don't really understand
what your problem is and why it isn't trivially easy for you
to do what you want. Perhaps if you explained why this task is
hard for you I could give some more apposite advice. You can
also look for tutorials on making a collage if you need more
help than I've given.
> --
> Terry, West Sussex, UK
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| All Things Mopar 2005-06-15, 4:31 am |
| Kris Zaklika commented courteously...
Welcome back! I've been missing your user insults.
--
ATM, aka Jerry
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| Terry Pinnell 2005-06-15, 4:31 am |
| Kris Zaklika <kris@kris.com> wrote:
>Terry Pinnell wrote:
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>None of that is of any significance. The approach would be the
>same if you lived in the outskirts of Ulan Bator or on the Plains
>of Abraham or if you were pasting together images of something
>other than maps.
Are you always so provocative? Did you ever hear of the terms
'background', or 'explanatory introduction'? Have you ever seen a
thread in which someone launches straight into a technical question,
followed by several responses asking 'what are you trying to do?' or
'please clarify your objective'?
>
>You can make small JPEGs just as well if not better.
As easily as just a one-click selection of GIF as file type in the
File>Save As dialogue? Better?
>
>What is your difficulty? The obvious way
If it had been 'obvious' (to me, not you), then I wouldn't have taken
the trouble to prepare and publish those screenshots and post my
query.
>is to add a border to
>the first image (Image > Add Border) and then Edit > Copy and
>Edit > Paste > Paste As New Layer the second image onto the newly
>created space or border. Alternatively, you could create a new
>image large enough to hold both map images and paste each of them
>into the new image as a layer. Why is that not working for you?
>Is something else the problem for you? (By the way, once you open
>the images in PSP they are no longer JPEGs.)
That 'obvious' approach doesn't work here. Whether I paste as
selection or layer, one or other of the two grey areas hides that
section of the other county. Or have you omitted some even *more*
obvious step that I should have taken? How do I in effect make the
grey area transparent?
>
>Yes, but so what? Why is that causing you difficulty? You
>can match the grey in one image to the grey in another image
>by using the Manual Color Correction filter and sampling the
>grey from the first image while applying it to the second if
>that is our problem. Alternatively you can use the Background
>Eraser to erase all the grey in each of the map images before
>assembling them together.
Perhaps *that* is the even more obvious step I should have known about
- the prior use of the Background Eraser? Is that really 'the easiest'
solution? BTW, wouldn't that leave me with the same problem with a
different background colour?
>Frankly, I don't really understand
>what your problem is and why it isn't trivially easy for you
>to do what you want. Perhaps if you explained why this task is
>hard for you I could give some more apposite advice. You can
>also look for tutorials on making a collage if you need more
>help than I've given.
It's 'hard' for me because I haven't done it before. I'm sure that it
will appear 'trivial' once I've accomplished it.
-------
For others who may have a similar requirement, and end up here, one
relatively simple approach I discovered after further experiment was
this:
1. Create a new image large enough for both sections
2. In Map A, use Magic Wand just outside border to select the hybrid
grey colour of the 'missing county'.
3. Invert that selection
4. Copy and paste that as a new selection to the waiting empty image
5. Repeat that with Map B
6. Tidy up any traces of remaining border (yellowish in my example).
--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
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| Canopus 2005-06-15, 7:38 pm |
| Terry Pinnell on 15/06/2005 wrote:
> For others who may have a similar requirement, and end up here, one
> relatively simple approach I discovered after further experiment was
> this:
>
> 1. Create a new image large enough for both sections
> 2. In Map A, use Magic Wand just outside border to select the hybrid
> grey colour of the 'missing county'.
> 3. Invert that selection
> 4. Copy and paste that as a new selection to the waiting empty image
> 5. Repeat that with Map B
> 6. Tidy up any traces of remaining border (yellowish in my example).
That would work, however, you don't need to create a new image and
paste both selections onto it, you could just create a selection with
the magic wand from one image then copy and paste it to the other
image, there would be less possibility of error that way.
Removing the grey with the background eraser from both images, copying
one as a layer, adding it as a layer to the other and merging the
layers would probably be more accurate. Try it, you'll find that
removing the grey that way will leave you with the canvas as background
so that it wont obscure what is under it when layered on top of the
other. In fact you should only need to remove the grey from the top
layer. You could even create a layer from one, paste it as a layer
over the other and use the background eraser to reveal the county
underneath showing through from the bottom layer.
Rob
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| fugitive 2005-06-15, 7:38 pm |
| in article 7alva1dqooalrn8sv676kicsn1i82so5i9@4ax.com, Terry Pinnell at
terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com wrote on 06/15/2005 12:40 AM:
> Kris Zaklika <kris@kris.com> wrote:
>
>
> Are you always so provocative? Did you ever hear of the terms
> 'background', or 'explanatory introduction'? Have you ever seen a
> thread in which someone launches straight into a technical question,
> followed by several responses asking 'what are you trying to do?' or
> 'please clarify your objective'?
Where you live is irrelevant. Move on.
>
>
> If it had been 'obvious' (to me, not you), then I wouldn't have taken
> the trouble to prepare and publish those screenshots and post my
> query.
What is obvious to me is that you are an XXX.
>
> That 'obvious' approach doesn't work here.
Wherever you are must be someplace special. For *SPECIAL* people. Software
must not work the same where you are.
Move on, special boi.
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| Terry Pinnell 2005-06-15, 7:38 pm |
| "Canopus" <BNRAGMAOKKXT@spammotel.com> wrote:
>Terry Pinnell on 15/06/2005 wrote:
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>That would work, however, you don't need to create a new image and
>paste both selections onto it, you could just create a selection with
>the magic wand from one image then copy and paste it to the other
>image, there would be less possibility of error that way.
>
>Removing the grey with the background eraser from both images, copying
>one as a layer, adding it as a layer to the other and merging the
>layers would probably be more accurate. Try it, you'll find that
>removing the grey that way will leave you with the canvas as background
>so that it wont obscure what is under it when layered on top of the
>other. In fact you should only need to remove the grey from the top
>layer. You could even create a layer from one, paste it as a layer
>over the other and use the background eraser to reveal the county
>underneath showing through from the bottom layer.
>
>Rob
Thanks Rob, very helpful.
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Terry, West Sussex, UK
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| Canopus 2005-06-15, 7:38 pm |
| Terry Pinnell on 15/06/2005 wrote:
> Thanks Rob, very helpful.
By the way, you may find you are better off using the PSP newsgroups at
cnews.corel.com as this one tends to be populated by certain Trolls.
Kris may be brusque at times, but, he is a mine of very useful
information as he was involved with much of the development of PSP and
normally contributes greatly to the PSP newsgroups on a volantery
bassis. There are Troll posters here that are just in it to wind
people up, observe for a while and you will soon get to know them for
your kill file, but, better, use cnews.corel.com
Rob
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| Terry Pinnell 2005-06-15, 7:38 pm |
| "Canopus" <BNRAGMAOKKXT@spammotel.com> wrote:
>Terry Pinnell on 15/06/2005 wrote:
>
>
>By the way, you may find you are better off using the PSP newsgroups at
>cnews.corel.com as this one tends to be populated by certain Trolls.
>Kris may be brusque at times, but, he is a mine of very useful
>information as he was involved with much of the development of PSP and
>normally contributes greatly to the PSP newsgroups on a volantery
>bassis. There are Troll posters here that are just in it to wind
>people up, observe for a while and you will soon get to know them for
>your kill file, but, better, use cnews.corel.com
>
>Rob
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
Yep, thank heaven for kill files; Agent deleted 68 posts for me at a
stroke with 'fugitive' summarily plonked!
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Terry, West Sussex, UK
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| Canopus 2005-06-15, 7:38 pm |
| in article gev0b1d49vi3uq8lhet6p9ekrhamvfqepq@4ax.com, Terry Pinnell at
terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com wrote on 06/15/2005 12:16 PM:
> Yep, thank heaven for kill files; Agent deleted 68 posts for me at a
> stroke with 'fugitive' summarily plonked!
Make sure to filter this one too...goober.
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| Terry Pinnel 2005-06-15, 7:38 pm |
| in article gev0b1d49vi3uq8lhet6p9ekrhamvfqepq@4ax.com, Terry Pinnell at
terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com wrote on 06/15/2005 12:16 PM:
>
> Yep, thank heaven for kill files; Agent deleted 68 posts for me at a
> stroke with 'fugitive' summarily plonked!
Make sure to filter this one also...
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"Canopus" <BNRAGMAOKXT@spamotel.com> wrote in message
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> in article gev0b1d49vi3uq8lhet6p9ekrhamvfqepq@4ax.com, Terry Pinnell at
> terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com wrote on 06/15/2005 12:16 PM:
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> Make sure to filter this one too...goober.
Artist Mike forging headers again. This cretin must look up to Uni.
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"Terry Pinnel" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipox.com> wrote in message
news:BED5E058.32B7A%terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipox.com...
> in article gev0b1d49vi3uq8lhet6p9ekrhamvfqepq@4ax.com, Terry Pinnell at
> terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com wrote on 06/15/2005 12:16 PM:
>
>
>
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> Make sure to filter this one also...
Artist Mike forging even more headers.
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| Canopus 2005-06-15, 7:38 pm |
| Cliff on 15/06/2005 wrote:
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> "Canopus" <BNRAGMAOKXT@spamotel.com> wrote in message
> news:BED5DF15.32B79%BNRAGMAOKXT@spamotel.com...
> a >> stroke with 'fugitive' summarily plonked!
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> Artist Mike forging headers again. This cretin must look up to Uni.
and sometimes he even manages to copy the address correctly ;)
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| "Cliff" <cje20@hotmail.com> wrote in news:11b1bnf1bf0mf7
@corp.supernews.com:
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> "Canopus" <BNRAGMAOKXT@spamotel.com> wrote in message
> news:BED5DF15.32B79%BNRAGMAOKXT@spamotel.com...
Pinnell at[color=darkred]
PM:[color=darkred]
me at a[color=darkred]
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> Artist Mike forging headers again. This cretin must look up to
Uni.
>
>
Coincidentally, I just posted the same thing in the Req. Need
Help thread to Rob, suggesting that the fugitive and terry
posting there were actually the resident troll. Terry, you're
being hijacked! :-)
Regards,
JoeB
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| "Canopus" <BNRAGMAOKKXT@spammotel.com> wrote in
news:3hbpikFg7dnpU1@individual.net:
> Cliff on 15/06/2005 wrote:
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06/15/2005[color=darkred]
for me at[color=darkred]
Uni.[color=darkred]
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> and sometimes he even manages to copy the address correctly ;)
He goes for close, and for like-sounding. Kinda like the
"Birthlink" one for greg fare (sp?). :-)
Regards
JoeB
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| Cliff wrote:
> "Canopus" <BNRAGMAOKXT@spamotel.com> wrote in message
> news:BED5DF15.32B79%BNRAGMAOKXT@spamotel.com...
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> Artist Mike forging headers again. This cretin must look up to Uni.
Cliff, Artist Mike is the closest you'll ever come to knowing a Real
Professional Artist!!!!!!
Uni
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| Cliff 2005-06-15, 11:28 pm |
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"Uni" <no.email@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
news:F%4se.501309$H_1.299892@fe04.news.easynews.com...
> Cliff wrote:
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> Cliff, Artist Mike is the closest you'll ever come to knowing a Real
> Professional Artist!!!!!!
>
Hoo Boy how you hallucinate. Artist Mike is neither professional nor an
artist. Kinda like you trying to pass yourself off as a professional
engineer. I lump you both together. Cretins, both of you.
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| Canopus wrote:
> Terry Pinnell on 15/06/2005 wrote:
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> By the way, you may find you are better off using the PSP newsgroups at
> cnews.corel.com as this one tends to be populated by certain Trolls.
If cnews.corel.com is so much better, why are you here?
:-)
Uni
> Kris may be brusque at times, but, he is a mine of very useful
> information as he was involved with much of the development of PSP and
> normally contributes greatly to the PSP newsgroups on a volantery
> bassis. There are Troll posters here that are just in it to wind
> people up, observe for a while and you will soon get to know them for
> your kill file, but, better, use cnews.corel.com
>
> Rob
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| eddie holden 2005-06-16, 7:33 pm |
| the easiest way I know to do it is to make a new image big enough to fit
both in then add both images as layers then erase the gray section on one
line the edge up to match the other half then merge all
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:n9bua1plqq1pr08l5qgd31hlrt1ff4hk6e@4ax.com...
>I live just on the border of West Sussex and Surrey (with Kent not far
> away either). I've made two JPGs of the border area from an aerial
> map-viewing program plus CD, showing each county. I've illustrated
> these with the following extracts (GIFs for economy of size):
> http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/...Home-Surrey.gif
> http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/...ome-WSussex.gif
>
> What is the easiest way to create a combined JPG from the two separate
> JPGs please? FWIW, that grey seems to be a mixture of various greyish
> colours.
>
> --
> Terry, West Sussex, UK
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| eddie holden 2005-06-16, 7:33 pm |
| ok just tried it to make sure on sizes you will need to resize the surry gif
to 70 percentof original size to do that and make it join right
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:n9bua1plqq1pr08l5qgd31hlrt1ff4hk6e@4ax.com...
>I live just on the border of West Sussex and Surrey (with Kent not far
> away either). I've made two JPGs of the border area from an aerial
> map-viewing program plus CD, showing each county. I've illustrated
> these with the following extracts (GIFs for economy of size):
> http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/...Home-Surrey.gif
> http://www.terrypin.dial.pipex.com/...ome-WSussex.gif
>
> What is the easiest way to create a combined JPG from the two separate
> JPGs please? FWIW, that grey seems to be a mixture of various greyish
> colours.
>
> --
> Terry, West Sussex, UK
>
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| Terry Pinnell 2005-06-16, 7:33 pm |
| "eddie holden" <Sirs-0225@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>ok just tried it to make sure on sizes you will need to resize the surry gif
>to 70 percentof original size to do that and make it join right
Thanks, yes, I got the scales out of balance. Didn't think it was as
much as 30% out though? Anyway, I've started afresh, and zoomed into
both counties to exactly the same degree, so should be matched now.
--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
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| Canopus 2005-06-16, 7:33 pm |
| Terry Pinnell on 16/06/2005 wrote:
> Thanks, yes, I got the scales out of balance. Didn't think it was as
> much as 30% out though?
Sorry, but, I thought that was just the way you had made the gifs, it
never occurred to me that you had two original files at different
scales, would have thought the firm would have supplied adjacent areas
at same scale.
Rob
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| Canopus 2005-06-16, 11:30 pm |
| in article n393b15lpk8j98td9qdba1ohaqe1t6u3hh@4ax.com, Terry Pinnell at
terrypinDELETE@THESEdial.pipex.com wrote on 06/16/2005 9:12 AM:
> "eddie holden" <Sirs-0225@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, yes, I got the scales out of balance. Didn't think it was as
> much as 30% out though? Anyway, I've started afresh, and zoomed into
> both counties to exactly the same degree, so should be matched now.
hahahaha.
As if you could not figure this all out on your own. Poor Terry, got lost
trying to put two pieces of art together.
hahaha.
It really is no wonder that you goobers use PainShopPoop.
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| Canopus 2005-06-16, 11:30 pm |
| in article 3he089FgofgsU1@individual.net, Canopus at
BNRAGMAOKKXT@spammotel.com wrote on 06/16/2005 11:55 AM:
> Terry Pinnell on 16/06/2005 wrote:
>
>
> Sorry, but, I thought that was just the way you had made the gifs, it
> never occurred to me that you had two original files at different
> scales, would have thought the firm would have supplied adjacent areas
> at same scale.
>
> Rob
It was obvious that one was enlarged at a different percentage than the
other. One was starting to get pixelated while the other one was less so.
Sheesh.
You people do the lamest things and then wonder why you have crappy results,
all the while using crappy software.
hahahaha.
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| The Major 2005-06-17, 7:51 am |
| In message <BED77ABB.337EF%BNRAGMAOKXT@spamhotel.com>, Canopus
<BNRAGMAOKXT@spamhotel.com> writes
>You people do the lamest things and then wonder why you have crappy
>results, all the while using crappy software.
>
>hahahaha.
You can rely on Mike to know all about crap... and "hahahaha" must be
the redneck email equivalent of a letter in green ink on lined paper...
It goes on and on and on, like a dripping tap.
Boring in the extreme. Now wait for the witless reply from the meagre
stock of pathetic put-down attempts.
--
Chris Hughes
"Reality is that which, when you cease to believe, continues to exist."
http://www.epicure.demon.co.uk
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| in article hHhPHrF2PqsCFwXw@epicure.demon.co.uk, The Major at
The.Major@farnsebarnse.demon.co.uk wrote on 06/17/2005 3:20 AM:
> It goes on and on and on, like a dripping tap.
So do you.
>
> Boring in the extreme.
Yet you lap it up like the little kitten you are. Now run along little
puss.
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