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alwaysbeencrazy

2004-12-05, 7:17 pm

I have PSP 7 I would like to know how to take a picture of a
window (with window panes in it) and have to other picture (a scenic) so
that you are looking out the window at the scenic picture. I do have the
book that came with the program, somewhere in the ruble but can't seem to
find it and don't know if that would be in the book anyway. If it can't be
done in PSP 7 is there a program that can as I have quite a few graphic
programs. So any help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Peggy
"People got floors all wrong. They have this misconception that its purpose
is for traveling on from room to room when actually its the largest shelf in
the house"

Uni

2004-12-05, 7:17 pm

alwaysbeencrazy wrote:
> I have PSP 7 I would like to know how to take a picture of a
> window (with window panes in it) and have to other picture (a scenic) so
> that you are looking out the window at the scenic picture.

Why not post your images to alt.binaries.paint-shop-pro group? We'll fix
you up in a flash!!!!

:-)

Uni

I do have the
> book that came with the program, somewhere in the ruble but can't seem to
> find it and don't know if that would be in the book anyway. If it can't be
> done in PSP 7 is there a program that can as I have quite a few graphic
> programs. So any help would be appreciated.
> Thank you,
> Peggy
> "People got floors all wrong. They have this misconception that its purpose
> is for traveling on from room to room when actually its the largest shelf in
> the house"

Cliff

2004-12-05, 11:17 pm

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 23:14:41 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
wrote:

>alwaysbeencrazy wrote:
>
>... We'll fix
>you up in a flash!!!!

That's what the OP should be worried about.

Fred Hiltz

2004-12-05, 11:17 pm

alwaysbeencrazy wrote:
> I have PSP 7 I would like to know how to take a picture of a
> window (with window panes in it) and have to other picture (a
> scenic) so that you are looking out the window at the scenic
> picture.... If it can't be done in PSP 7 is there a program that
> can as I have quite a few graphic programs.

It is easy in PSP 7, Peggy. When you take your photo of the window,
be careful about what reflects in the panes. Put it on a layer over
the outdoor scene and erase the window glass.

The simple way:

1) Open the photo of the window. Copy it to the clipboard. Edit >
Copy.

2) Open a working copy of the scenic outdoor picture. Promote the
background layer. Layers > Promote to Layer.

3) Paste the clipboard as a new layer. Edit > Paste > As New Layer.

4) Use the Eraser tool to erase the glass in the window, letting the
outdoor scene show through. The right mouse button un-erases if you
go too far.

5) The outdoor scene may not be where you want it. Open the Layer
palette. View > Toolbars > Layer Palette. Click on Layer 1. Use the
Deformation tool to move and perhaps resize it to suit.

Consult Help for details about using the tools and palettes.

Real windows are not perfectly clear, of course. For extra credit,
replace step 4) with a partial erasure:

a) Activate the Paint Brush tool. Open the Color palette. View >
Toolbars > Color Palette. Set the Foreground Color to a dark grey,
perhaps R, G, B, = 64, 64, 64.

b) Click on Layer 2 in the Layer palette. Add a mask to it. Masks >
New > Show All.

c) Masks > Edit. Paint dark grey on the mask over the windows to
make them partially transparent. Experiment with different shades of
grey. Black makes the windows fully transparent, white leaves them
opaque, and intermediate shades produce partial transparency. Finish
by toggling Masks > Edit off.

Save your work in PSP format so you can come back to it later. Make
copies as needed for sharing with File > Export > JPEG Optimizer.

This is just an outline of the steps. Write back if you get stuck.
--
Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com

Kris Zaklika

2004-12-05, 11:17 pm

alwaysbeencrazy wrote:
>
> I have PSP 7 I would like to know how to take a picture of a
> window (with window panes in it)

PSP doesn't take pictures. Cameras take pictures. You'll
have to get a suitable picture first. Then you can open
the picture in PSP and work on it.

> and have to other picture (a scenic) so
> that you are looking out the window at the scenic picture.

The basic idea is this. You put the window picture as a
layer over the scenic picture. Then you cut out the windows
(i.e. make them transparent) so you can see the scene in
the layer below.

Here are the detailed steps.
1. Make sure the two images are more or less the same size.
Do Image > Image Information and write down the width
and height in pixels of the image. Then do Image > Resize
on the larger image and make its larger dimension match
the corresponding dimension of the smaller picture by
setting the correct target size in pixels. Use Smart
Size as the resizing method and make sure Maintain Aspect
Ratio is checked.
2. Click on the titlebar of the window picture to make it
active and do Edit > Copy. That puts the picture in the
Windows clipboard.
3. Click on the titlebar of the scenic picture to make it
active and do Edit > Paste > As New Layer. This puts the
window over the scenic image as a new layer.
4. Use one of the selection tools such as the Lasso in
Freehand, Point to Point or Smart Edge mode to carefully
select around the edge of a window. Press and hold Shift
and use the selection tool to add the next window to the
selection. (If you make a mistake and select too much,
Ctrl with a selection tool allows you to subtract something
from the existing selection.) Continue until all the
windows are selected.
5. A selection restricts which part of the image is affected
by subsequent actions. Press the Delete key and the selection
contents are removed, exposing a view of the scenic layer
below. For a less drastic change you can set the Eraser
big enough to cover a window. Set the Opacity to, say, 20
and click repeatedly on a window. This will make the window
partly transparent showing the scene but also some of the
original glass, which can be a more natural result. Repeat
the same number of clicks on the remaining windows so that
the effect is the same.

> I do have the
> book that came with the program, somewhere in the ruble but can't seem to
> find it and don't know if that would be in the book anyway.

I guess then that you will never know since nobody is going
to find your book for you.

> If it can't be
> done in PSP 7 is there a program that can as I have quite a few graphic
> programs.

If you don't understand how to do this task in one graphic
program it's not going to help you to have a lot of them.
They all use pretty much the same principles.

> So any help would be appreciated.
> Thank you,
> Peggy
> "People got floors all wrong. They have this misconception that its purpose
> is for traveling on from room to room when actually its the largest shelf in
> the house"

Uni

2004-12-05, 11:17 pm

Cliff wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 23:14:41 GMT, Uni <no.email@no.email.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> That's what the OP should be worried about.

Pipe up, Cliff!!!

:-)

Kris and Fred must be really hungry. I see they wasted no time TRYING to
answer this individuals question. Boy, good thing they don't hang out in
the Photoshop groups, or they'd never find the time to brush their teeth!!!

:-)

Uni

dave

2004-12-07, 4:16 am

in article 0AMsd.66$Dr4.39@trndny02, alwaysbeencrazy at
alwaysbeencrazy@verizon.net wrote on 12/05/2004 3:10 PM:

> I have PSP 7 I would like to know how to take a picture of a
> window

Try using a Camera.

alwaysbeencrazy

2004-12-08, 11:21 pm

Thanks for your help. Glad to see there is at least one person willing to
help and not make fun of you.
Your directions were great.
Take care,
Peg

"Fred Hiltz" <not@home.ca> wrote in message
news:Z4mdnWm2_qXKPS7cRVn-qw@adelphia.com...
> alwaysbeencrazy wrote:
>
> It is easy in PSP 7, Peggy. When you take your photo of the window,
> be careful about what reflects in the panes. Put it on a layer over
> the outdoor scene and erase the window glass.
>
> The simple way:
>
> 1) Open the photo of the window. Copy it to the clipboard. Edit >
> Copy.
>
> 2) Open a working copy of the scenic outdoor picture. Promote the
> background layer. Layers > Promote to Layer.
>
> 3) Paste the clipboard as a new layer. Edit > Paste > As New Layer.
>
> 4) Use the Eraser tool to erase the glass in the window, letting the
> outdoor scene show through. The right mouse button un-erases if you
> go too far.
>
> 5) The outdoor scene may not be where you want it. Open the Layer
> palette. View > Toolbars > Layer Palette. Click on Layer 1. Use the
> Deformation tool to move and perhaps resize it to suit.
>
> Consult Help for details about using the tools and palettes.
>
> Real windows are not perfectly clear, of course. For extra credit,
> replace step 4) with a partial erasure:
>
> a) Activate the Paint Brush tool. Open the Color palette. View >
> Toolbars > Color Palette. Set the Foreground Color to a dark grey,
> perhaps R, G, B, = 64, 64, 64.
>
> b) Click on Layer 2 in the Layer palette. Add a mask to it. Masks >
> New > Show All.
>
> c) Masks > Edit. Paint dark grey on the mask over the windows to
> make them partially transparent. Experiment with different shades of
> grey. Black makes the windows fully transparent, white leaves them
> opaque, and intermediate shades produce partial transparency. Finish
> by toggling Masks > Edit off.
>
> Save your work in PSP format so you can come back to it later. Make
> copies as needed for sharing with File > Export > JPEG Optimizer.
>
> This is just an outline of the steps. Write back if you get stuck.
> --
> Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com
>

Fred Hiltz

2004-12-09, 12:20 pm

alwaysbeencrazy wrote:
> Thanks for your help. Glad to see there is at least one person
> willing to help and not make fun of you. Your directions were
> great. Take care,

You are welcome. I'm glad you found them useful. You might like to
look in on the PSP board at http://forums.jasc.com some time. It has
nicer people and much more activity than this group. After signing
up, you can get newsreader access as well. Look in the Getting
Started board, FAQs group, "Can I access the Forums with a
newsreader?" for how to set up the popular readers.
--
Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com

Fred Hiltz

2005-06-14, 7:51 pm

Joseygirl wrote:
> As I have a P111 600 Pentium, I have been more than happy with
> PSP 8. However my hard drive needs reformating or replacing. I've
> just discovered my PSP 8 program is corrupted & I can't do a new
> install. As Jasc has now sold to Corel & they only offer PSP 9,
> would anyone be able to help me out? I need a new full retail
> copy & the two patches. PSP 9 is too advanmced for my system as
> well.

Corel customer support should have a record of your registration.
Try them for a replacement copy.

If worse comes to worse, PSP 9 is about the same size on disk and in
memory as PSP 8, and it puts about the same load on the CPU. It
should run about as slowly on your machine as version 8 does. I run
both and do not sense any difference in performance.
--
Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com
C-Tech volunteer