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The Eye

2004-12-19, 7:17 pm

I am wondering if the boxed PSP 9 comes with a manual? If there is one,
has anyone used this manual for PSP 9? Any good?

What do experienced users feel about the learning curve for PSP 9?

Thanks.



Uni

2004-12-19, 7:17 pm

The Eye wrote:
> I am wondering if the boxed PSP 9 comes with a manual? If there is one,
> has anyone used this manual for PSP 9? Any good?




pogo wrote:
> Having used Psp since the version 3.x days, I was interested in Psp-9
> after seeing all the ad hype. I really liked V:4.14 and thought 7.04
> was pretty neat ... 9, therefore, should have been even better.
>
> Before I could obtain a copy, a friend called with a Psp-9 problem.
> Since I built his machine, I couldn't see why the problem, so I
> uninstalled it from his machine and loaded it onto mine.
>
> Although I traced down his problem, I will not be buying nor loading
> Psp-9 onto my system, nor will I recommend it to any who ask (and there
> are more than a few who do ask).
>
> I'm not a big proponent of rushing out to get the newest products (if
> what I have does what I want the way I want .. why change it?) and
> "Keeping Up With The Jones" has never been high on my list, but Psp has
> been an exception in the past. Normally, each release brought good-to-
> have feature improvement, but more importantly, Psp products were
> always good to the host system. Not true with Psp-9.
>
> So ... for what it's worth (not much to most, I'm sure) I choose to
> stay with an older version that works well, never gives a problem and
> is easy to install/uninstall and update.
>
> Plus ... I liked the old display layout better then the new. A
> pointless change in my opinion.



:-)

Uni


>
> What do experienced users feel about the learning curve for PSP 9?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>


Uni

2004-12-19, 7:17 pm

The Eye wrote:
> I am wondering if the boxed PSP 9 comes with a manual?



The manuals for PSP are poorly written. For example, in PSP-6's manual,
there was no entry for "Text" in the index. Obviously, no proof
reading performed. People generally spend the most time
installing/reinstalling PSP and ferociously looking in the manual, then
they do using PSP.

:-)

Uni



If there is one,
> has anyone used this manual for PSP 9? Any good?
>
> What do experienced users feel about the learning curve for PSP 9?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>


Kris Zaklika

2004-12-19, 7:17 pm

The Eye wrote:
>
> I am wondering if the boxed PSP 9 comes with a manual?


Yes, it does.

> If there is one,
> has anyone used this manual for PSP 9?


Yes, people have used it.

> Any good?


We like to think so.

> What do experienced users feel about the learning curve for PSP 9?


Most people believe PSP is easier to learn than Photoshop
despite having comparable power (except in support for
commercial printing).

> Thanks.

Fred Hiltz

2004-12-19, 7:17 pm

The Eye wrote:
> I am wondering if the boxed PSP 9 comes with a manual? If there
> is one, has anyone used this manual for PSP 9? Any good? What do
> experienced users feel about the learning curve for PSP 9?


Yes, 502 pages. It is a reference manual, not a tutorial, containing
the same information as the program's Help, but organized as a book.

As for the learning curve, it takes a while to learn where
everything is in this big program, but not long to find the common
tools. Picking the up the names of things may be the
hardest--background, palette, layer, and the like. The index helps
there.

I like an old post by Kris at
http://groups-beta.google.com/group...b14129ce0a463f,
which gives some good advice about approaching PSP and links to many
tutorials and some books.

What's your goal? You could be improving your photos 30 minutes
after opening the box with Help > Learning Center > Photo. At the
other end of the spectrum, none of us has mastered everything there
is to know about PSP. Even Kris still finds something new. Not very
often, but once in a while. Some of the paintings shown in the Jasc
user forums boggle my mind.
--
Fred Hiltz, fhiltz at yahoo dot com

Carl Frisk

2004-12-19, 7:17 pm

I have the manual. It's one of those things. I seldom use it anymore. HOWEVER on the occasions I need it it's worth
it's weight in gold. And it's really handy to have open when your trying to figure something out. I'd much rather
glance over and read a reference then click back and forth between help screens. IMO.

--
....Carl Frisk
Anger is a brief madness.
- Horace, 20 B.C.
http://www.carlfrisk.com


"The Eye" <eyeonpoliticnospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:zqGdnT96lJnJVljcRVn-pw@rcn.net...
>I am wondering if the boxed PSP 9 comes with a manual? If there is one, has anyone used this manual for PSP 9? Any
>good?
>
> What do experienced users feel about the learning curve for PSP 9?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>


Uni

2004-12-19, 7:17 pm

Kris Zaklika wrote:
> The Eye wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes, it does.
>
>
>
>
> Yes, people have used it.
>
>
>
>
> We like to think so.
>
>
>
>
> Most people believe PSP is easier to learn than Photoshop
> despite having comparable power (except in support for
> commercial printing).


Actually, the review I read, claims Photoshop Elements is much easier to
use/learn than Paint Shop Pro 8 & 9, because it offers a workflow,
rather than a bunch of silly fly-outs, all over the place.

And, of course, since Photoshop Element does offer 16 bit per color
channel editing, it's ideal for photographers, digital and film.

Uni


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>
>


Uni

2004-12-19, 7:17 pm

Carl Frisk wrote:
> I have the manual. It's one of those things. I seldom use it anymore.
> HOWEVER on the occasions I need it it's worth it's weight in gold. And
> it's really handy to have open when your trying to figure something
> out. I'd much rather glance over and read a reference then click back
> and forth between help screens. IMO.


Actually, Carl, I haven't seen this done yet, but I do know it can be
accomplished. Way back when, with PSP-5, I think, I tried to edit a 256
color GIF. Unfortunately, some controls were grayed out. Looking through
Help lead me nowhere. I then thought, why doesn't some clever programmer
catch these clicks on inactive controls and pop up Help, letting you
know why the control is inactive.

Clever, huh?

:-)

Uni

Carl Frisk

2004-12-19, 7:17 pm

Clever indeed.

--
....Carl Frisk
Anger is a brief madness.
- Horace, 20 B.C.
http://www.carlfrisk.com


"Uni" <no.email@no.email.invalid> wrote in message news:41C5FA51.1020301@no.email.invalid...
> Carl Frisk wrote:
>
> Actually, Carl, I haven't seen this done yet, but I do know it can be
> accomplished. Way back when, with PSP-5, I think, I tried to edit a 256
> color GIF. Unfortunately, some controls were grayed out. Looking through
> Help lead me nowhere. I then thought, why doesn't some clever programmer
> catch these clicks on inactive controls and pop up Help, letting you
> know why the control is inactive.
>
> Clever, huh?
>
> :-)
>
> Uni
>

Uni

2004-12-19, 7:17 pm

Carl Frisk wrote:
> Clever indeed.


Actually, if I were the head programmer at Jasc, things would have ended
differently. In other words, both Adobe and Corel would have been
offered a buyout.

:-)

Uni

Tim

2004-12-20, 4:15 am

The Eye wrote:
> I am wondering if the boxed PSP 9 comes with a manual? If there is
> one, has anyone used this manual for PSP 9? Any good?
>
> What do experienced users feel about the learning curve for PSP 9?
>
> Thanks.


Yes, the boxed version comes with a printed manual. If you'd like to see
what the manual looks like you can download it in pdf format from
http://www1.jasc.com/pub/en/psp900enug.pdf .

--
Tim


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