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Print to the edges of the A4 paper
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| Hi
I am an intermediate user of both indesign and illistrator. I can create
many things. However i am not good at printing. I have recently created some
A4 size artwork that i want to print all the way to the edges of the paper.
Are there some tricks with setting up bleed areas in illustrator?
Or should i concentrate on just printing through indesign? and copy all
artwork over to it and paste it in a properly set up document?
I am also not good at printing in indesign, I have however in the past come
across a site that offers template layouts for many sizes..
what is the best way to go about this?
thankyou v.much
regards,
Ryan
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| hi ryan,
you're printing equipment is able to print to the edges? most desktop =
printers aren't
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PiT
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| ryan wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am an intermediate user of both indesign and illistrator. I can create
> many things. However i am not good at printing. I have recently created some
> A4 size artwork that i want to print all the way to the edges of the paper.
> Are there some tricks with setting up bleed areas in illustrator?
>
> Or should i concentrate on just printing through indesign? and copy all
> artwork over to it and paste it in a properly set up document?
>
> I am also not good at printing in indesign, I have however in the past come
> across a site that offers template layouts for many sizes..
>
> what is the best way to go about this?
>
> thankyou v.much
>
> regards,
> Ryan
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Print on A3 (or A4+) and cut...
Waldo
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| I have an epson photo printer. And when i tested printing a photo on it.. it
did it all the way to the edges.
I am designing some packaging and getting it professionally printed. I want
it to have with all the correst margins, bleeds, ect. Im just not sure how
to set it all up. I have searched google, but found nothing great.
thanks again
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| steggy 2006-08-09, 6:19 pm |
| ryan wrote:
> I have an epson photo printer. And when i tested printing a photo on it.. it
> did it all the way to the edges.
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> I am designing some packaging and getting it professionally printed. I want
> it to have with all the correst margins, bleeds, ect. Im just not sure how
> to set it all up. I have searched google, but found nothing great.
>
> thanks again
>
>
I am sorry but I do not know of a quality printer which prints to or
(even better) over the edge. I think Waldo's advice is the only possible
one. Print on larger paper and cut. That even happens in off set printing.
Why your Epson does a photo to the edges is a mistery for me. Your
printer rolls must be melting;) Or (being not so in photo printing) I
missed something.
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| steggy wrote:
> ryan wrote:
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> I am sorry but I do not know of a quality printer which prints to or
> (even better) over the edge. I think Waldo's advice is the only possible
> one. Print on larger paper and cut. That even happens in off set printing.
>
> Why your Epson does a photo to the edges is a mistery for me. Your
> printer rolls must be melting;) Or (being not so in photo printing) I
> missed something.
I have only experience with a consumer level inkjet printer that could
do borderless printing. This is how it was done: the image was slightly
enlarged (!). The print heads are not located above the rolls, but
slightly further away. Underneath is a kind of foam that absorbs ink.
One or two millimeters of ink from each paper edge ends up in the foam.
This works for photographs, but if your design must be exact in
dimensions, I would go for the printer-larger-and-cut solution.
Waldo
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| I thought it was all about setting up a correct bleed (and other settings)
in indesign and you can print to the edges. Just like I see on many flyers,
magazines, brocures..
It seems to be much harder than i anticipated..
thanks again
ryan
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| steggy 2006-08-10, 6:17 pm |
| ryan wrote:
> I thought it was all about setting up a correct bleed (and other settings)
> in indesign and you can print to the edges. Just like I see on many flyers,
> magazines, brocures..
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> It seems to be much harder than i anticipated..
>
> thanks again
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> ryan
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Ryan, most magazines and brochures and such are printed in off set, at
the Printing Office......they print the thing on wider paper and then
cut the sides off.
That is why bleeding is involved. If you need to do that on your regular
laserprinter you need to print it with trim marks on larger paper and
spent an afternoon cutting slices.
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"steggy" <steggy2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I am sorry but I do not know of a quality printer which prints to or
> (even better) over the edge. I think Waldo's advice is the only possible
> one. Print on larger paper and cut. That even happens in off set printing.
>
> Why your Epson does a photo to the edges is a mistery for me. Your
> printer rolls must be melting;) Or (being not so in photo printing) I
> missed something.
What you missed is that he said "photograph". Most printers will not print
all the way to the edge of the printer. If the printer is designed for A4,
then the largest print area you get will be A4 less the printer margins. If
you put in a much smaller piece of paper, you can get the whole thing
covered in print. Most photographs are much smaller than A4. The restriction
isn't with the piece of paper you put in but with the body of the printer.
Some printers have problems with the top & bottom of the paper because of
the tractors (the rubber ones that pull the paper through) but something
designed for photos would have to deal with that - usually by putting in
tractors both sides of the print head.
There are probably printers with a slightly wider body that will cover
complete A4 sheets but I couldn't tell you which ones. Depending on feed
methods, I would suppose that a lot of A3 printers would do it.
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| steggy 2006-08-13, 6:16 pm |
| wam wrote:
> "steggy" <steggy2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4juq85F9lhgoU1@individual.net...
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> What you missed is that he said "photograph". Most printers will not print
> all the way to the edge of the printer. If the printer is designed for A4,
> then the largest print area you get will be A4 less the printer margins. If
> you put in a much smaller piece of paper, you can get the whole thing
> covered in print. Most photographs are much smaller than A4. The restriction
> isn't with the piece of paper you put in but with the body of the printer.
> Some printers have problems with the top & bottom of the paper because of
> the tractors (the rubber ones that pull the paper through) but something
> designed for photos would have to deal with that - usually by putting in
> tractors both sides of the print head.
> There are probably printers with a slightly wider body that will cover
> complete A4 sheets but I couldn't tell you which ones. Depending on feed
> methods, I would suppose that a lot of A3 printers would do it.
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Like I said: I am not into photo printing. Reason for that remark was
"photographs".
At work we have a beautiful OKI 9600 printer, A3+ it prints. But will
not print an A4 with bleeding. For me the reason for that is obvious: it
will ruin the rolls and the printer needs a "grab", so no room for ink
on those parts of the paper.
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