Adobe Illustrator - Importing PDF files and converting the text

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Importing PDF files and converting the text

enhypnion@gmail.com

2005-09-05, 7:17 pm

I hope someone here can shed some light into this,

I have a pdf file with some embedded fonts which displays fine and even
imports into inDesign CS2 fine, and from there I can generate a pdf and
even that one shows the pdf perfectly fine. Now this might be
irrational fear, but I just have this ugly feeling that embedding a pdf
within a pdf is going to result in the printer slashing my tires at
2a.m.

So I decided to convert the pdf into .eps files and avoid this. Here is
my illustrator question: Is there any way, through Illustrator natively
or through some third party plugin, to convert the fonts into outlines
as the pdf is being imported? or are embedded fonts completely
disregarded when Illustrator is opening the pdf?

The illogical part to me is that if the fonts are embedded, then
obviously all the data needed to create outlines is already in the
file, so why can't Illustrator (or any software for that matter) simply
convert those to shapes, rather than giving you a font warning and then
just replacing with default fonts. Part of me feels this is some
obvious option or feature I am somehow overlooking completely.

Thank you all in advance!

_+arrooke

2005-09-06, 4:17 am

> I hope someone here can shed some light into this,
>
> I have a pdf file with some embedded fonts which displays fine and even
> imports into inDesign CS2 fine, and from there I can generate a pdf and
> even that one shows the pdf perfectly fine. Now this might be
> irrational fear, but I just have this ugly feeling that embedding a pdf
> within a pdf is going to result in the printer slashing my tires at
> 2a.m.
>
> So I decided to convert the pdf into .eps files and avoid this. Here is
> my illustrator question: Is there any way, through Illustrator natively
> or through some third party plugin, to convert the fonts into outlines
> as the pdf is being imported? or are embedded fonts completely
> disregarded when Illustrator is opening the pdf?
>
> The illogical part to me is that if the fonts are embedded, then
> obviously all the data needed to create outlines is already in the
> file, so why can't Illustrator (or any software for that matter) simply
> convert those to shapes, rather than giving you a font warning and then
> just replacing with default fonts. Part of me feels this is some
> obvious option or feature I am somehow overlooking completely.
>
> Thank you all in advance!
>

Why can't you export (or save as) an EPS directly from Acrobat? Then you
have only to re-distill - or open the EPS (that you saved from Acrobat) in
Illustrator and then outline the fonts.

Also; there used to be some problems when exporting to PDF from InDesign
when opening the PDF in an Acrobat version under version 6. To avoid that
problem, print to PDF from InDesign.

Keith.

enhypnion@gmail.com

2005-09-06, 4:17 am

I tried that but when I try to open the EPS (exported from Acrobat) in
Illustrator, I get the warning indicating I don't have the fonts, so
somehow it just discards it

-Alex

_+arrooke

2005-09-06, 4:17 am

> I tried that but when I try to open the EPS (exported from Acrobat) in
> Illustrator, I get the warning indicating I don't have the fonts, so
> somehow it just discards it
>
> -Alex
>
That's a weird thing about Illustrator. Even though it gives you the option
to embed fonts, Illustrator doesn't read those embedded fonts when you
re-open in Illustrator. Unless of course you happen to have those fonts on
your system.
The embed fonts option in Illustrator only works when importing to a page
layout program.

Keith.