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| Justcurious 2005-05-14, 7:15 pm |
| I have a blend between two spot colors in a file that I am trying to take to
a service bureau as a two color job. The blend separates as four color. Is
it possible to get it to work and separate as two color?
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| iehsmith 2005-05-15, 7:14 pm |
| On 5/14/05 8:13 AM, Justcurious uttered:
> I have a blend between two spot colors in a file that I am trying to take to
> a service bureau as a two color job. The blend separates as four color. Is
> it possible to get it to work and separate as two color?
How did you mak your blend; in which app?
In Illustrator, to get a spot color blend you would overprint one of the
colors on top of another. Don't use transparency, use percentage of the
spot. How the 2 colors will look together in print can be difficult to
determine.
inez
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| Justcurious 2005-05-16, 7:16 pm |
| I made several consecutive lines and used the blend tool to blend one to the
next. Planned on using a text mask on top. I am using Illustrator CS.
I am not sure I understand your instructions, but I think you mean two
blends on top of one another?
"iehsmith" <inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BEACF458.32E93%inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net...
> On 5/14/05 8:13 AM, Justcurious uttered:
>
>
>
> How did you mak your blend; in which app?
>
> In Illustrator, to get a spot color blend you would overprint one of the
> colors on top of another. Don't use transparency, use percentage of the
> spot. How the 2 colors will look together in print can be difficult to
> determine.
>
> inez
>
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| iehsmith 2005-05-16, 7:16 pm |
| On 5/16/05 7:25 AM, Justcurious uttered:
> I made several consecutive lines and used the blend tool to blend one to the
> next. Planned on using a text mask on top. I am using Illustrator CS.
I'm pretty sure this isn't going to work. (I'd say certain, but I'm never
certain of anything;) Here's a test though, use the eye dropper on the
blended area between the beginning and ending spot color lines. I think
you'll find all those intermediate colors show up as CMYK (if you're working
in CMYK mode).
You don't actually get to "mix" spot colors together. You have to remember
what spot color really is. You're 2 spot colors represent ink color 1 and
ink color 2, not dots making up a color. The color names have to remain
recognized by the program so that when separations are made there will be
only the 2 plates/colors.
About the only way I know of to create the impression of a blend like yours
would be as eries of opacity masks; and I'm not sure how pratical that would
be. Can you upload your file as png or jpeg to a web site and send the group
the URL? If we can see it somebody might be able to tell you how to do it.
> I am not sure I understand your instructions, but I think you mean two
> blends on top of one another?
No, that's not what I was referring to. But it sounds like you rally need to
use Opacity Masks to get anything close to what you're after. We really need
to see it to help from hear, I think.
inez
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> "iehsmith" <inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:BEACF458.32E93%inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net...
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| Paul Asente 2005-05-17, 4:14 am |
| In article <0Qmhe.1704$aM4.578@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
"Justcurious" <mompcomike@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I have a blend between two spot colors in a file that I am trying to take to
> a service bureau as a two color job. The blend separates as four color. Is
> it possible to get it to work and separate as two color?
To do a spot color blend:
Take the two objects and give each of them an additional fill (or
stroke, if you are blending strokes) in the appearance palette. On one
of them, make the top fill be spot color A at 100% tint and the bottom
fill be spot color B at 0% tint. On the other, make the top fill be
spot color A at 0% tint and the bottom fill be spot color B at 100%
tint. Make sure the top fill is set to overprint on each. Now blend
and Illustrator will give all the intermediate shapes the appropriate
spot tints.
-- paul asente
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| Jim Webb 2005-05-17, 7:16 pm |
| Justcurious wrote:
> I have a blend between two spot colors in a file that I am trying to take to
> a service bureau as a two color job. The blend separates as four color. Is
> it possible to get it to work and separate as two color?
>
I've read the other posts so far, and Opacity masks will do the job.
However, an old trick used by a lot of graphic designers is to do the
job in two of the CMYK colours -- say just use black and magenta.
Illustrator will blend easily between percentages of two CYMK colours
without adding any additional colours. Then you just tell the printer to
replace the two colours on press with your required PMS colours.
The only complaint is when you make colour proofs (as PDF or whatever)
because the client isn't seeing the colours they expect. You can fiddle
around to make the colours correct for proof only, or hopefully just
explain what is happening to the client.
Jim
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| Justcurious 2005-05-18, 7:16 am |
| I made several consecutive lines and used the blend tool to blend one to the
next. Planned on using a text mask on top. I am using Illustrator CS.
I am not sure I understand your instructions, but I think you mean two
blends on top of one another?
"iehsmith" <inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BEACF458.32E93%inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net...
> On 5/14/05 8:13 AM, Justcurious uttered:
>
>
>
> How did you mak your blend; in which app?
>
> In Illustrator, to get a spot color blend you would overprint one of the
> colors on top of another. Don't use transparency, use percentage of the
> spot. How the 2 colors will look together in print can be difficult to
> determine.
>
> inez
>
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| iehsmith 2005-05-18, 7:16 pm |
| On 5/14/05 8:13 AM, Justcurious uttered:
> I have a blend between two spot colors in a file that I am trying to take to
> a service bureau as a two color job. The blend separates as four color. Is
> it possible to get it to work and separate as two color?
How did you mak your blend; in which app?
In Illustrator, to get a spot color blend you would overprint one of the
colors on top of another. Don't use transparency, use percentage of the
spot. How the 2 colors will look together in print can be difficult to
determine.
inez
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| Justcurious 2005-05-20, 7:16 pm |
| I made several consecutive lines and used the blend tool to blend one to the
next. Planned on using a text mask on top. I am using Illustrator CS.
I am not sure I understand your instructions, but I think you mean two
blends on top of one another?
"iehsmith" <inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:BEACF458.32E93%inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net...
> On 5/14/05 8:13 AM, Justcurious uttered:
>
>
>
> How did you mak your blend; in which app?
>
> In Illustrator, to get a spot color blend you would overprint one of the
> colors on top of another. Don't use transparency, use percentage of the
> spot. How the 2 colors will look together in print can be difficult to
> determine.
>
> inez
>
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| iehsmith 2005-05-20, 7:16 pm |
| On 5/16/05 7:25 AM, Justcurious uttered:
> I made several consecutive lines and used the blend tool to blend one to the
> next. Planned on using a text mask on top. I am using Illustrator CS.
I'm pretty sure this isn't going to work. (I'd say certain, but I'm never
certain of anything;) Here's a test though, use the eye dropper on the
blended area between the beginning and ending spot color lines. I think
you'll find all those intermediate colors show up as CMYK (if you're working
in CMYK mode).
You don't actually get to "mix" spot colors together. You have to remember
what spot color really is. You're 2 spot colors represent ink color 1 and
ink color 2, not dots making up a color. The color names have to remain
recognized by the program so that when separations are made there will be
only the 2 plates/colors.
About the only way I know of to create the impression of a blend like yours
would be as eries of opacity masks; and I'm not sure how pratical that would
be. Can you upload your file as png or jpeg to a web site and send the group
the URL? If we can see it somebody might be able to tell you how to do it.
> I am not sure I understand your instructions, but I think you mean two
> blends on top of one another?
No, that's not what I was referring to. But it sounds like you rally need to
use Opacity Masks to get anything close to what you're after. We really need
to see it to help from hear, I think.
inez
[color=darkred]
> "iehsmith" <inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:BEACF458.32E93%inezhsmithspammenot@earthlink.net...
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