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| Paul Asente 2005-04-05, 4:14 am |
| In article <425124F5.C5A19746@hotmail.com>, PH <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/main.html
Feel free to ask any questions about Illustrator CS2; I'll be happy to
answer what I can.
-- paul asente
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| West B. 2005-04-05, 4:14 am |
| Paul Asente wrote:
> In article <425124F5.C5A19746@hotmail.com>, PH <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Feel free to ask any questions about Illustrator CS2; I'll be happy to
> answer what I can.
>
> -- paul asente
> To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
Paul,
Have they made the --.EPS into MS Word-- work flow any easier on this
go-round. Last year's suggestion of using the .NPG raster format to
transfer graphics into Word just didn't fly. My work flow requires me to
supply the writers with graphics/illustrations that allow the end user
to be to zoom in on complex areas of the resulting PDF documents.
A non vector solution just doesn't cut it, and the client won't even
consider allowing me and the writers to move up to InDesign.
P.S. I was never able to get Illust CS to export an EPS with a header
that Word was capable of displaying, necessitating switching to 10 for
EPS export and using CS only for stand-alone illustrations. A really
Unsatisfactory work flow if you ask me.
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| Paul Asente wrote:
>
> In article <425124F5.C5A19746@hotmail.com>, PH <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Feel free to ask any questions about Illustrator CS2; I'll be happy to
> answer what I can.
Thanks Paul.
I would like more details about the Live Trace feature. Is
it like Streamline or is it better?
Live Paint, I can't see what advantages that gives, I must
be missing something.
--
Peter
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| EPS in Word is a pain, as you only see the preview (if included). It
prints okay on PostScript devices, but with Word or non-postscript
printers it stinks.
Try to export to EMF, sometimes it works perfectly, or just copy in Illy
and paste in Word (that's what I use).
Waldo
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| West B. 2005-04-05, 11:14 pm |
| Waldo wrote:
> EPS in Word is a pain, as you only see the preview (if included). It
> prints okay on PostScript devices, but with Word or non-postscript
> printers it stinks.
>
> Try to export to EMF, sometimes it works perfectly, or just copy in Illy
> and paste in Word (that's what I use).
>
> Waldo
Waldo, Thx for your $.02 worth. I Gave up on Meta file formats back when
WMF Couldn't handle the complexity involved and would only image the
first 32000 or so vectors.
I just don't trust it, and my work-around does what's necessary.
eventually MS will find someone who can write a graphic import filter
that handles the newer features in the Adobe EPS format.
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| Donna 2005-04-06, 11:14 pm |
| Hi all, I too would like to hear more about the LiveTrace feature. If it is
something that finally really works, I would upgrade immediately from
CSPremium, as I have found that tracing sketches is very time consuming.
"PH" <steggy2001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4252553A.5A97BAFD@hotmail.com...
> Paul Asente wrote:
>
> Thanks Paul.
>
> I would like more details about the Live Trace feature. Is
> it like Streamline or is it better?
>
> Live Paint, I can't see what advantages that gives, I must
> be missing something.
>
>
>
> --
> Peter
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| Bruce Kieffer 2005-04-07, 6:14 pm |
| Paul,
I'm a FreeHand diehard, and an Illustrator wanna be! Two things I need from
Illustrator and then I dump FreeHand. The way I work, I need these path
features that FH has. Can Illustrator CS2 do these things?
1) Select a bunch of paths, touching or not, and with one command, joint
them into one path.
2) Select a path made with corner points, hold down the option key (or
another method), click the path and pull out Bezier handles to change the
path from straight to curved.
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| Bruce Kieffer wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> I'm a FreeHand diehard, and an Illustrator wanna be! Two things I need from
> Illustrator and then I dump FreeHand. The way I work, I need these path
> features that FH has. Can Illustrator CS2 do these things?
>
> 1) Select a bunch of paths, touching or not, and with one command, joint
> them into one path.
Select two endpoints and hit Cmnd-J.
>
> 2) Select a path made with corner points, hold down the option key (or
> another method), click the path and pull out Bezier handles to change the
> path from straight to curved.
Direct Select the path and with the Option key pressed (or
the Convert Anchor tool chosen) use the pen tool to pull out
Bezier handles.
No need to wait for CS2, these are pretty old Illustrator features.
--
Peter
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| Bruce Kieffer 2005-04-07, 11:14 pm |
| in article 425522AC.EB111F5@hotmail.com, PH at steggy2001@hotmail.com wrote
on 4/7/05 6:08 AM:
> Bruce Kieffer wrote:
>
> Select two endpoints and hit Cmnd-J.
OK, but the join command only works on 2 endpoints, how do I join more than
2 lines with one command. FreeHand can do that, can Illustrator?
>
> Direct Select the path and with the Option key pressed (or
> the Convert Anchor tool chosen) use the pen tool to pull out
> Bezier handles.
>
> No need to wait for CS2, these are pretty old Illustrator features.
OK, that is cumbersome. If you know how to do it in FH, it's much easier. Is
there a simpler way to do it in CS2?
> --
> Peter
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| Paul Asente 2005-04-08, 7:16 am |
| In article <BE7A7983.E233%bruce@kcfi.biz>,
Bruce Kieffer <bruce@kcfi.biz> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I'm a FreeHand diehard, and an Illustrator wanna be! Two things I need from
> Illustrator and then I dump FreeHand. The way I work, I need these path
> features that FH has. Can Illustrator CS2 do these things?
>
> 1) Select a bunch of paths, touching or not, and with one command, joint
> them into one path.
No, that isn't available.
> 2) Select a path made with corner points, hold down the option key (or
> another method), click the path and pull out Bezier handles to change the
> path from straight to curved.
Illustrator has been able to do this since Illustrator 7 or 8. It's the
reshape tool, hidden away below the scale tool. Use the direct select
tool to select the edge you want to edit, and then pull it out with the
reshape tool.
-- paul asente
To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
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| Paul Asente 2005-04-08, 7:16 am |
| In article <iwq4e.870$An2.419@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"West B." <rwwest-NOT-@teleport.com> wrote:
> Paul Asente wrote:
>
> Paul,
> Have they made the --.EPS into MS Word-- work flow any easier on this
> go-round. Last year's suggestion of using the .NPG raster format to
> transfer graphics into Word just didn't fly. My work flow requires me to
> supply the writers with graphics/illustrations that allow the end user
> to be to zoom in on complex areas of the resulting PDF documents.
>
> A non vector solution just doesn't cut it, and the client won't even
> consider allowing me and the writers to move up to InDesign.
>
> P.S. I was never able to get Illust CS to export an EPS with a header
> that Word was capable of displaying, necessitating switching to 10 for
> EPS export and using CS only for stand-alone illustrations. A really
> Unsatisfactory work flow if you ask me.
I don't believe that anything has changed in the Office integration this
time. Adobe can't really control what Word can do with EPS files, but
you can produce full vector output of EPS inclusions by printing to a
"PDF Printer" from Word.
-- paul asente
To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
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| Jeez Paul, you sold me! Live Paint sounds awesome, a big improvement and
while you were not as estatic in your description of LiveTrace :-) (guess
cuz you weren't the brains working on that) it still sounds like it might
work pretty good. Guess, I need to upgrade when the CS2 is released. Thanks
for your info on the new version. Anything else we should get really jazzed
about?
"Paul Asente" <usenet@not-asente.com> wrote in message
news:usenet-5013DF.01255208042005@newshost.allthenewsgroups.com...
> In article <4252553A.5A97BAFD@hotmail.com>, PH <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Live Trace is pretty awesome. I can get better results from it with
> just a couple of clicks than I could ever get from Streamline. And it
> really is live...select the image, do an edit original to edit it in
> Photoshop, go back to Illustrator, and the trace updates. If what
> you're doing is some sort of posterization where you don't expect to
> edit the results afterwards, you can do that...and come back weeks
> later, change the tracing parameters, and the trace updates.
>
>
> You know how every 2 weeks someone asks how to do something like draw a
> circle, draw a line across it, and color the two sides different colors?
> Now you can. But it all stays live, so you can edit the circle or move
> the line or whatever you like and the colored areas update. You can
> also give different parts of the paths different stroke attributes.
>
> Even better, it's completely integrated with Live Trace. Draw a sketch,
> scan it in, do a Live Trace, and then color it with Live Paint. Live
> Trace does a great job of generating stroked paths if you ask for them.
> Then you can edit the paths.
>
> If your drawing has places where the lines don't quite join up, no
> problem...Live Paint can fill areas even if they're not completely
> closed.
>
> Or if you import a picture in one of those annoying CAD formats that
> doesn't join up the line segments, no problem either. Live Paint can
> fill in the enclosed areas even when the paths don't join up.
>
> Want to draw the old Apple logo? Just draw the apple, draw the dividing
> lines, and color. No need for Pathfinder or anything like that. And
> the apple still exists as a single editable path, so you can reshape it
> if you like. (If you used Pathfinder, it would probably be faster to
> redraw than to edit the shapes.)
>
> Compound paths? We don't need no steenking compound paths! Just fill
> the "hole" with None, and that's it. All those complicated Minus Front
> and Minus Back Pathfinder commands? Don't need 'em any more. Just fill
> some areas the colors you want, fill others with None, and you're done.
> Change your mind later? Just recolor.
>
> In short, Live Paint frees you from having to think about your
> illustration as a set of overlapping filled paths. You don't have to
> create your illustration like you were making a collage of overlapping
> paper cutouts. Instead you just draw the outlines of the shapes and
> color in the insides.
>
> (If I sound jazzed about Live Paint, it's because that's what I've spent
> the last two years working on. I had nothing to do with Live Trace
> however.)
>
> -- paul asente
> To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
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| Paul Asente 2005-04-09, 4:15 am |
| In article <115da68qsi2aaaf@corp.supernews.com>,
"Donna" <donnamcmHateSpam@gainbroadband.com> wrote:
> Jeez Paul, you sold me! Live Paint sounds awesome, a big improvement and
> while you were not as estatic in your description of LiveTrace :-) (guess
> cuz you weren't the brains working on that) it still sounds like it might
> work pretty good. Guess, I need to upgrade when the CS2 is released. Thanks
> for your info on the new version. Anything else we should get really jazzed
> about?
There are some nice videos of the new CS2 features in all the products
at http://layersmagazine.com/
The new perspective painting tools in Photoshop are really cool too!
-- paul asente
To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
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|
| Paul Asente wrote:
>
> In article <115da68qsi2aaaf@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Donna" <donnamcmHateSpam@gainbroadband.com> wrote:
>
>
> There are some nice videos of the new CS2 features in all the products
> at http://layersmagazine.com/
>
> The new perspective painting tools in Photoshop are really cool too!
>
> -- paul asente
> To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
Woooow Paul......I read your comments and just saw the
videos about Illustrator.
This is just great. Those who claimed it was a minor update
are totally wrong, this is a revolution!
Congratulations and a bunch of thank you's:)
--
Peter
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| Paul Asente 2005-04-09, 6:14 pm |
| In article <4257A636.309B2BC7@hotmail.com>, PH <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> This is just great. Those who claimed it was a minor update
> are totally wrong, this is a revolution!
It happens every time. You get used to it. No matter what you put in,
somebody, somewhere, will complain that it's just a minor update!
-- paul asente
To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
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| ArggieMentive 2005-04-09, 6:14 pm |
|
"Paul Asente" <usenet@not-asente.com> wrote in message
news:usenet-1CE373.11193409042005@newshost.allthenewsgroups.com...
> In article <4257A636.309B2BC7@hotmail.com>, PH <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> It happens every time. You get used to it. No matter what you put in,
> somebody, somewhere, will complain that it's just a minor update!
Hey Paul, Thanks for your hard work with Illustrator developments and for
taking the time to answer questions in here.
It's appreciated.
__Gem
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| Paul Asente wrote:
>
> In article <4257A636.309B2BC7@hotmail.com>, PH <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> It happens every time. You get used to it. No matter what you put in,
> somebody, somewhere, will complain that it's just a minor update!
Well I can imagine some thoughts and complaints.
But in this case........I have no money what so ever, but
the Live Trace and Paint (and the new control panel) forced
me to NOT go to the local Irish Pub today........ I want
it!! So save some money Peter.
--
Peter
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| Hecate 2005-04-09, 11:15 pm |
| On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:19:34 -0700, Paul Asente
<usenet@not-asente.com> wrote:
>In article <4257A636.309B2BC7@hotmail.com>, PH <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>It happens every time. You get used to it. No matter what you put in,
>somebody, somewhere, will complain that it's just a minor update!
>
Hi Paul,
Looks good, but I was really wanting that new CSI plug in which allows
you to magnify 1000+ times without loss of definition ;-)
--
Hecate - The Real One
Hecate@newsguy.com
Fashion: Buying things you don't need, with money
you don't have, to impress people you don't like...
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| Hecate wrote:
>
> On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 11:19:34 -0700, Paul Asente
> <usenet@not-asente.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> Looks good, but I was really wanting that new CSI plug in which allows
> you to magnify 1000+ times without loss of definition ;-)
>
> --
>
> Hecate
HUH?????
Which one, CSI Miami or Vegas:)))
--
Peter
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| iehsmith 2005-04-09, 11:15 pm |
| On 4/9/05 6:11 PM, PH uttered:
> HUH?????
> Which one, CSI Miami or Vegas:)))
Or New York?
inez;)
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| West B. 2005-04-09, 11:15 pm |
| Paul Asente wrote:
> In article <iwq4e.870$An2.419@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> "West B." <rwwest-NOT-@teleport.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I don't believe that anything has changed in the Office integration this
> time. Adobe can't really control what Word can do with EPS files, but
> you can produce full vector output of EPS inclusions by printing to a
> "PDF Printer" from Word.
>
> -- paul asente
> To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
I think the writers I work with would go on strike if they had to work
without any for-placement visual input. I've been trying to get them to
go with InDesign for some time, with no success.
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| Paul Asente 2005-04-11, 6:18 pm |
| In article <425124F5.C5A19746@hotmail.com>, PH <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/main.html
Feel free to ask any questions about Illustrator CS2; I'll be happy to
answer what I can.
-- paul asente
To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
| |
|
| EPS in Word is a pain, as you only see the preview (if included). It
prints okay on PostScript devices, but with Word or non-postscript
printers it stinks.
Try to export to EMF, sometimes it works perfectly, or just copy in Illy
and paste in Word (that's what I use).
Waldo
| |
| West B. 2005-04-11, 6:18 pm |
| Waldo wrote:
> EPS in Word is a pain, as you only see the preview (if included). It
> prints okay on PostScript devices, but with Word or non-postscript
> printers it stinks.
>
> Try to export to EMF, sometimes it works perfectly, or just copy in Illy
> and paste in Word (that's what I use).
>
> Waldo
Waldo, Thx for your $.02 worth. I Gave up on Meta file formats back when
WMF Couldn't handle the complexity involved and would only image the
first 32000 or so vectors.
I just don't trust it, and my work-around does what's necessary.
eventually MS will find someone who can write a graphic import filter
that handles the newer features in the Adobe EPS format.
| |
| Bruce Kieffer 2005-04-11, 6:18 pm |
| Paul,
I'm a FreeHand diehard, and an Illustrator wanna be! Two things I need from
Illustrator and then I dump FreeHand. The way I work, I need these path
features that FH has. Can Illustrator CS2 do these things?
1) Select a bunch of paths, touching or not, and with one command, joint
them into one path.
2) Select a path made with corner points, hold down the option key (or
another method), click the path and pull out Bezier handles to change the
path from straight to curved.
| |
| Bruce Kieffer 2005-04-20, 11:58 am |
| Paul,
You've told me a bit about AI's path tools, but if I am to convert from FH,
I need to know how I can do my work. I know this is vague, but I'll give it
a try. Please give me a technique I might use to create closed paths over an
imported EPS with over 10,000 lines. I could send you a sample file if that
would help. Thanks much.
| |
|
| Paul Asente wrote:
>
> In article <4257A636.309B2BC7@hotmail.com>, PH <steggy2001@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> It happens every time. You get used to it. No matter what you put in,
> somebody, somewhere, will complain that it's just a minor update!
Well I can imagine some thoughts and complaints.
But in this case........I have no money what so ever, but
the Live Trace and Paint (and the new control panel) forced
me to NOT go to the local Irish Pub today........ I want
it!! So save some money Peter.
--
Peter
| |
| iehsmith 2005-04-20, 11:58 am |
| On 4/9/05 6:11 PM, PH uttered:
> HUH?????
> Which one, CSI Miami or Vegas:)))
Or New York?
inez;)
| |
| Stuart 2005-05-05, 7:16 pm |
| Paul Asente wrote:
> In article <BE7A7983.E233%bruce@kcfi.biz>,
> Bruce Kieffer <bruce@kcfi.biz> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> No, that isn't available.
>
It is available as a plugin, which is not to expensive. Here is the link
http://rj-graffix.com/software/plugins.html#concatenate
You can download a trial version which limits the number of paths that
can be joined in one go.
It is a very useful tool.
Stuart
>
> -- paul asente
> To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
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