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| Donna 2004-02-08, 10:28 am |
| IllyCS--I have a rectangle 4"x5". I want 26 circles to surround the inside
of the rectangle with symmetrical spacing. I used the blend tool with
specified steps along each vertical side, which worked really well, using 8
circles. That gave me 16 circles along each 5"side, but of course when I
blended the horizontal sides with 5 more, they had to be crammed in so that
my spacing is not symmetrical now on the vertical and horizontal sides. I'm
sure that IllyCS is quite capable of figuring this out for me, but I am a
little lost on what to try now, besides me trying to manually tweek it
myself. Can someone give me the answer? Thanks.
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| stupid_idiot 2004-02-08, 1:28 pm |
| my $1 bet is that the math is impossible. but, i am tracking this thread....sounds like one of the
those great pre-calc homework assignments.
"Donna" <donnamcmSTOPSPAM@gain.com> wrote in message news:102cgabnt3bfvdf@corp.supernews.com...
> IllyCS--I have a rectangle 4"x5". I want 26 circles to surround the inside
> of the rectangle with symmetrical spacing. I used the blend tool with
> specified steps along each vertical side, which worked really well, using 8
> circles. That gave me 16 circles along each 5"side, but of course when I
> blended the horizontal sides with 5 more, they had to be crammed in so that
> my spacing is not symmetrical now on the vertical and horizontal sides. I'm
> sure that IllyCS is quite capable of figuring this out for me, but I am a
> little lost on what to try now, besides me trying to manually tweek it
> myself. Can someone give me the answer? Thanks.
>
>
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| Paul Asente 2004-02-08, 5:28 pm |
| In article <102cgabnt3bfvdf@corp.supernews.com>,
"Donna" <donnamcmSTOPSPAM@gain.com> wrote:
> IllyCS--I have a rectangle 4"x5". I want 26 circles to surround the inside
> of the rectangle with symmetrical spacing. I used the blend tool with
> specified steps along each vertical side, which worked really well, using 8
> circles. That gave me 16 circles along each 5"side, but of course when I
> blended the horizontal sides with 5 more, they had to be crammed in so that
> my spacing is not symmetrical now on the vertical and horizontal sides. I'm
> sure that IllyCS is quite capable of figuring this out for me, but I am a
> little lost on what to try now, besides me trying to manually tweek it
> myself. Can someone give me the answer? Thanks.
It sounds like you want 8 on the 5" sides, and 7 on the 4" sides
(counting the corners twice). This won't be even because 5/8" isn't
equal to 4/7". You can either adjust the spacing, or adjust the overall
size.
Pattern brushes can do either of those for you. Draw one circle, and
make it into a pattern brush, using it as both the edge cell and the
corner cells. (When you first create it, it will become the edge cell.
Option/alt drag it over where the (empty) corners are in the brushes
palette to add it as the corner cell. If you want spacing between them,
draw an unstroked, unfilled square behind the circle before creating the
brush.
Then either use "Add space to fit" to make Illustrator apply the brush
with additional spacing, or "Approximate path" to let it change the size
of the rectangle so that the brush will fill each side exactly.
-- paul asente
To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
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| OK Paul, I thought that this might elicit a response from you. I was kind of
hoping that Illy could use a path or something and somehow make it look
symmetrical, but I guess since a rectangle is not symmetrical, it is
impossible, but I will try your suggestion and see what I can do. Maybe I
can change my layout to accomodate a nice little square box. :-) Thanks for
the help guys.
"Paul Asente" <usenet@not-asente.com> wrote in message
news:usenet-E58CF4.12533508022004@news06.west.earthlink.net...
> In article <102cgabnt3bfvdf@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Donna" <donnamcmSTOPSPAM@gain.com> wrote:
>
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using 8[color=blue]
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I'm[color=blue]
a[color=blue]
>
> It sounds like you want 8 on the 5" sides, and 7 on the 4" sides
> (counting the corners twice). This won't be even because 5/8" isn't
> equal to 4/7". You can either adjust the spacing, or adjust the overall
> size.
>
> Pattern brushes can do either of those for you. Draw one circle, and
> make it into a pattern brush, using it as both the edge cell and the
> corner cells. (When you first create it, it will become the edge cell.
> Option/alt drag it over where the (empty) corners are in the brushes
> palette to add it as the corner cell. If you want spacing between them,
> draw an unstroked, unfilled square behind the circle before creating the
> brush.
>
> Then either use "Add space to fit" to make Illustrator apply the brush
> with additional spacing, or "Approximate path" to let it change the size
> of the rectangle so that the brush will fill each side exactly.
>
> -- paul asente
> To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
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| Paul Asente 2004-02-09, 1:28 am |
| In article <102dl39bgltc644@corp.supernews.com>,
"Donna" <donnamcmSTOPSPAM@gain.com> wrote:
> OK Paul, I thought that this might elicit a response from you. I was kind of
> hoping that Illy could use a path or something and somehow make it look
> symmetrical, but I guess since a rectangle is not symmetrical, it is
> impossible, but I will try your suggestion and see what I can do. Maybe I
> can change my layout to accomodate a nice little square box. :-) Thanks for
> the help guys.
Sorry I wasn't clearer. If you use "Approximate path" and you apply a
pattern brush to a rectangle, Illustrator will make the smallest change
possible so that the pattern brush will fit an even number of times on
each side, without stretching or spacing. It doesn't have to be square.
-- paul asente
To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
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| Ok Paul, thanks again. I'll give it a go.
"Paul Asente" <usenet@not-asente.com> wrote in message
news:usenet-95A41E.21233208022004@news03.west.earthlink.net...
> In article <102dl39bgltc644@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Donna" <donnamcmSTOPSPAM@gain.com> wrote:
>
kind of[color=blue]
I[color=blue]
for[color=blue]
>
> Sorry I wasn't clearer. If you use "Approximate path" and you apply a
> pattern brush to a rectangle, Illustrator will make the smallest change
> possible so that the pattern brush will fit an even number of times on
> each side, without stretching or spacing. It doesn't have to be square.
>
> -- paul asente
> To reply, make the host be the same as my last name
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