Adobe Illustrator - graphics darker when printed

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graphics darker when printed

alan smithey

2003-12-18, 8:26 pm

I have found that my graphics from Illustrator 9 print darker on my HP
PhotoSmart 1000 than they appear on the screen. I don't have this problem
with any other software including other Adobe products on the same computer.
I've used Adobe Gamma and everything looks fine there. I tend to trust my
printer so I've been lightening up my graphics before I release them to
clients, but they look almost pastel on the screen by the time they print in
normal vivid colors. I haven't had any Illustrator files from this
particular computer and install of Illustrator go to press yet, but I'm
paranoid that everything will be either too light or dark once printed in
four color process.

Has anyone else run into this? Have you got any advice on how to handle it?

Thanks

2003-12-18, 8:26 pm

alan smithey wrote:

quote:

>
> I have found that my graphics from Illustrator 9 print darker on my HP
> PhotoSmart 1000 than they appear on the screen. I don't have this problem
> with any other software including other Adobe products on the same computer.
> I've used Adobe Gamma and everything looks fine there. I tend to trust my
> printer so I've been lightening up my graphics before I release them to
> clients, but they look almost pastel on the screen by the time they print in
> normal vivid colors. I haven't had any Illustrator files from this
> particular computer and install of Illustrator go to press yet, but I'm
> paranoid that everything will be either too light or dark once printed in
> four color process.
>
> Has anyone else run into this? Have you got any advice on how to handle it?
>
> Thanks

Ask for a color proof from your printing office. Home
printers are hardly ever reliable when it comes down to
colors, and since you are printing it full-color anyway,
that would be the way to go.
--
Peter

Stuart

2003-12-18, 8:26 pm

alan smithey wrote:

quote:

> I have found that my graphics from Illustrator 9 print darker on my HP
> PhotoSmart 1000 than they appear on the screen. I don't have this problem
> with any other software including other Adobe products on the same computer.
> I've used Adobe Gamma and everything looks fine there. I tend to trust my
> printer so I've been lightening up my graphics before I release them to
> clients, but they look almost pastel on the screen by the time they print in
> normal vivid colors. I haven't had any Illustrator files from this
> particular computer and install of Illustrator go to press yet, but I'm
> paranoid that everything will be either too light or dark once printed in
> four color process.
>
> Has anyone else run into this? Have you got any advice on how to handle it?
>
> Thanks

Sounds like your colour profile is incorrectly calibrated or maybe you are

applying more than one profile. As pointed out in a previous reply you should

not rely on your home printer and get a proof print. Does your printer have

colour management, and if so, is it on or off?

Stuart

Sousa T.

2003-12-18, 8:26 pm

"alan smithey" <alansmithey@bigfoot.com(nospam)> wrote in
news:uN2Eb.577081$Tr4.1551993@attbi_s03:

quote:

> I have found that my graphics from Illustrator 9 print darker on my HP
> PhotoSmart 1000 than they appear on the screen. I don't have this
> problem with any other software including other Adobe products on the
> same computer. I've used Adobe Gamma and everything looks fine there.
> I tend to trust my printer so I've been lightening up my graphics
> before I release them to clients, but they look almost pastel on the
> screen by the time they print in normal vivid colors. I haven't had
> any Illustrator files from this particular computer and install of
> Illustrator go to press yet, but I'm paranoid that everything will be
> either too light or dark once printed in four color process.
>
> Has anyone else run into this? Have you got any advice on how to
> handle it?
>
> Thanks
>
>

You won't have problems, if you use a process-guide...

Otherwise you can use an Screen-Calibrator.

ciao...

alan smithey

2003-12-18, 8:26 pm

I don't know where to find the color profile, and when I search for it in
help it doesn't show up. Can you tell me where to find this?
I don't think my printer has color management, but as I said it's perfect
with all my other software like Photoshop, so I kind of hate to mess with
it.

"Stuart" <stuart@nospam.uk> wrote in message
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> alan smithey wrote:
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>
> Sounds like your colour profile is incorrectly calibrated or maybe you are
>
> applying more than one profile. As pointed out in a previous reply you

should

quote:

>
> not rely on your home printer and get a proof print. Does your printer

have

quote:

>
> colour management, and if so, is it on or off?
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>

Stuart

2003-12-18, 8:26 pm

alan smithey wrote:

quote:

> I don't know where to find the color profile, and when I search for it in
> help it doesn't show up. Can you tell me where to find this?
> I don't think my printer has color management, but as I said it's perfect
> with all my other software like Photoshop, so I kind of hate to mess with
> it.

Searching in the help for profile brings up a couple of things,
unfortunately profiles and colour management can be quite complicated.

What system are you running on, Mac or Windows?

Stuart

Paul Asente

2003-12-18, 8:26 pm

In article <10jEb.581790$HS4.4334506@attbi_s01>,
"alan smithey" <alansmithey@bigfoot.com(nospam)> wrote:

quote:

> I don't know where to find the color profile, and when I search for it in
> help it doesn't show up. Can you tell me where to find this?
> I don't think my printer has color management, but as I said it's perfect
> with all my other software like Photoshop, so I kind of hate to mess with
> it.

In general getting the colormanagement settings exactly right is
difficult. But if you're happy with the way things print in Photoshop,
you're in luck. Go to the Color Settings dialog in Photoshop (under
Photoshop on Mac, under Edit on Windows) and copy the settings down.
Then go to the same dialog in Illustrator (under Edit) and make the
settings exactly the same.

If that doesn't work, take the next step of looking for any printer- or
color-specific panels in the print dialog in Photoshop, and copy those
settings to the same panels in Illustrator.

Also make sure that you're working in the same color spaces. Both
Illustrator and Photoshop allow you to work either in RGB or in CMYK.

-- paul asente
To reply, make the host be the same as my last name

alan smithey

2003-12-18, 8:26 pm

Windows
Thanks

"Stuart" <stuart@nospam.uk> wrote in message
news:3FE1C6CC.4080800@nospam.uk...

quote:

> alan smithey wrote:
>
in[QUOTE][color=darkred]
perfect[QUOTE][color=darkred]
with[QUOTE][color=darkred]
>
>
> Searching in the help for profile brings up a couple of things,
> unfortunately profiles and colour management can be quite complicated.
>
> What system are you running on, Mac or Windows?
>
> Stuart
>

alan smithey

2003-12-18, 8:26 pm

These sound like good ideas. I will try them and post again if they work.

"Paul Asente" <usenet@not-asente.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> In article <10jEb.581790$HS4.4334506@attbi_s01>,
> "alan smithey" <alansmithey@bigfoot.com(nospam)> wrote:
>
in[QUOTE][color=darkred]
perfect[QUOTE][color=darkred]
with[QUOTE][color=darkred]
>
> In general getting the colormanagement settings exactly right is
> difficult. But if you're happy with the way things print in Photoshop,
> you're in luck. Go to the Color Settings dialog in Photoshop (under
> Photoshop on Mac, under Edit on Windows) and copy the settings down.
> Then go to the same dialog in Illustrator (under Edit) and make the
> settings exactly the same.
>
> If that doesn't work, take the next step of looking for any printer- or
> color-specific panels in the print dialog in Photoshop, and copy those
> settings to the same panels in Illustrator.
>
> Also make sure that you're working in the same color spaces. Both
> Illustrator and Photoshop allow you to work either in RGB or in CMYK.
>
> -- paul asente
> To reply, make the host be the same as my last name