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Flash -> Illustrator -> Print Colour problems...
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| Martin Chiselwitt 2003-11-21, 12:10 pm |
| Hi,
I am doing a job where I have to copy artwork generated in Flash into
Illustrator. However, there seems to be a huge discrepancy between the
colour in the document and the colours that actually print. I have quite
a good printer, so I can only assume it's the way the Illustrator is
interpreting the colours 'pasted in'.
For example, today I am trying to print a cartoon character which has a
burgundy jumper and quite light 'pinky' flesh-tones. When I print, the
burgundy is so dark as to almost be indistinguishable from the black
outline surrounding it and the flesh-tones are a very bright [shocking!]
pink!
I have tried adjusting the document settings between RGB and CMYK modes
with little positive results.
How can I ensure that I print what I see?
Many thanks for any help and advice,
martin
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| Stuart 2003-11-21, 12:10 pm |
| You need to look for colour calibration, try googling it, see what you
get. There will be plenty of tutorials on this subject. Also you need to
check whether the colours are the same between flash and illustrator
when viewed on the screen before looking into calibrating the
monitor/printer setup.
Stuart
Martin Chiselwitt wrote:
quote:
> Hi,
>
> I am doing a job where I have to copy artwork generated in Flash into
> Illustrator. However, there seems to be a huge discrepancy between the
> colour in the document and the colours that actually print. I have quite
> a good printer, so I can only assume it's the way the Illustrator is
> interpreting the colours 'pasted in'.
> For example, today I am trying to print a cartoon character which has a
> burgundy jumper and quite light 'pinky' flesh-tones. When I print, the
> burgundy is so dark as to almost be indistinguishable from the black
> outline surrounding it and the flesh-tones are a very bright [shocking!]
> pink!
> I have tried adjusting the document settings between RGB and CMYK modes
> with little positive results.
> How can I ensure that I print what I see?
>
> Many thanks for any help and advice,
>
> martin
>
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| LauraK 2003-11-21, 12:10 pm |
| >I am doing a job where I have to copy artwork generated in Flash intoquote:
>Illustrator. However, there seems to be a huge discrepancy between the
>colour in the document and the colours that actually print. I have quite
>a good printer, so I can only assume it's the way the Illustrator is
>interpreting the colours 'pasted in'.
Colors are rarely the same between Flash and Illustrator, at least when I go
between the two. Try different printer profiles to see if you can create one
that will generate the proper colors. Or you can change the colors in
Illustrator.
Instead of cut and paste, try opening the .fla in AI.
That may be better.
laurak@madmousergraphics.com
http://www.madmousergraphics.com
web design, print design, photography
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| Alexgirl 2003-11-21, 12:10 pm |
| You will likely never get your screen colours on your printer. They are two
entirely different methods of colour. As Stuart suggested trying some
monitor and printer calibration will help, but don't expect exact colours
ever. Adding a second software program to the mix makes it even more
difficult. Colour management might help you on that front, but I don't know
how much as I don't use Flash.
--
Alex
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"Martin Chiselwitt" <the.olde@shoppe.com> wrote in message
news:3GNub.116$Bt.1105@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net...quote:
> Hi,
>
> I am doing a job where I have to copy artwork generated in Flash into
> Illustrator. However, there seems to be a huge discrepancy between the
> colour in the document and the colours that actually print. I have quite
> a good printer, so I can only assume it's the way the Illustrator is
> interpreting the colours 'pasted in'.
> For example, today I am trying to print a cartoon character which has a
> burgundy jumper and quite light 'pinky' flesh-tones. When I print, the
> burgundy is so dark as to almost be indistinguishable from the black
> outline surrounding it and the flesh-tones are a very bright [shocking!]
> pink!
> I have tried adjusting the document settings between RGB and CMYK modes
> with little positive results.
> How can I ensure that I print what I see?
>
> Many thanks for any help and advice,
>
> martin
>
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| Martin Chiselwitt 2003-11-21, 12:10 pm |
| It just means that the job I am currently doing has become quite hellish..
Short of re-drawing [i.e., tracing over the original image], I think I
am pretty f***'d
The drawing was originally done in Flash as the drawing tools in that
are much more intuitive than Illustrator...
I tried hand coloring the artwork in Illustrator, but that is causing
all sorts of problems as I cannot do proper fills on a lot of the items
in the picture... This is driving me nuts.. There must be a way to
'convert' the flash colours into Illustrator, surely??....
Arghhh!!!!!
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| LauraK 2003-11-21, 12:10 pm |
| >I tried hand coloring the artwork in Illustrator, but that is causingquote:
>all sorts of problems as I cannot do proper fills on a lot of the items
>in the picture... This is driving me nuts.. There must be a way to
>'convert' the flash colours into Illustrator, surely??....
>
Try going from Flash to Fireworks and printing as a .png
Fireworks doesn't do CMYK but it you just need to print to a desktop it can be
decent.
If you don't have Fireworks, you can download a free 30-day trial from
Macromedia.
Do you need to keep it in vector? Everytime I've tried to go from AI to Flash,
the color problem has driven me nuts. I usually end up redoing it in Flash.
If you just need to print to a desktop, your best be may be to set up a printer
color profile that prints them correctly, even though they look off on screen
in AI.
Have you tried printing out of Flash?
It can do that.
Or fix the colors in Flash so they look right in AI.
Again, you can download a free 30-day trial from Macromedia.
laurak@madmousergraphics.com
http://www.madmousergraphics.com
web design, print design, photography
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| Martin Chiselwitt 2003-11-21, 12:10 pm |
| quote:
> Try going from Flash to Fireworks and printing as a .png
> Fireworks doesn't do CMYK but it you just need to print to a desktop it can be
> decent.
> If you don't have Fireworks, you can download a free 30-day trial from
> Macromedia.
> Do you need to keep it in vector?
Yes, absolutley, positively has to be in vector...
I am gonna try and do what you say about attempting to do stuff in Flash
again...
Although, it kind of defeats the point of using Illustrator... I have to
go into it eventually to do text work...
THis job is driving me NUTS
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| Well, what about using Corel...
I had the same problem between Flash and Illustrator and switching to Corel
helped.
A
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| Martin Chiselwitt 2003-11-21, 12:10 pm |
| Ned wrote:quote:
> Well, what about using Corel...
> I had the same problem between Flash and Illustrator and switching to Corel
> helped.
> A
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ermmm... i don't have Corel??
i DO have old version of Illustrator and Flash.. this is what I have to
work with
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| LauraK 2003-11-21, 12:10 pm |
| >ermmm... i don't have Corel??quote:
>
>i DO have old version of Illustrator and Flash.. this is what I have to
>work with
Go to Flash and File>Export Image>ai
It will export as AI 6.
I just tested this using AI9 and Flash 4 and it opened fine in AI. Colors were
still a little off, but could be fixed with some universal swatch changes or
even a printer profile.
It stayed vector.
laurak@madmousergraphics.com
http://www.madmousergraphics.com
web design, print design, photography
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| "Martin Chiselwitt" <the.olde@shoppe.com>
wrote in message news:3GNub.116$Bt.1105@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net...quote:
> Hi,
>
> I am doing a job where I have to copy artwork generated in Flash into
> Illustrator. However, there seems to be a huge discrepancy between the
> colour in the document and the colours that actually print.
Flash is geared mainly for RGB output only. It is not a great choice to use
in creating vector artwork that will wind up in print. Basically you have
to reapply all of your color fills within Illustrator in CMYK form.
Typically most Flash users will create vector art in more mainstream apps
like Illustrator, Freehand or CorelDRAW and then take the vectors into
Flash.
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| Martin Chiselwitt 2003-12-02, 9:35 pm |
| well, thats worth noting for the future. unfortunate for me as i have
been working in Flash for a long time now.. only just now investiging
print issues... sigh.. what a bloody laff eh?
Bob wrote:quote:
> "Martin Chiselwitt" <the.olde@shoppe.com>
> wrote in message news:3GNub.116$Bt.1105@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net...
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> Flash is geared mainly for RGB output only. It is not a great choice to use
> in creating vector artwork that will wind up in print. Basically you have
> to reapply all of your color fills within Illustrator in CMYK form.
> Typically most Flash users will create vector art in more mainstream apps
> like Illustrator, Freehand or CorelDRAW and then take the vectors into
> Flash.
>
>
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