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Vampicramp's babbling resistance to learning

Onideus Mad Hatter

2005-08-22, 4:32 am

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:18:34 +1000, Vampi Fangs <vampi@nwglfo.org>
wrote:

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>you can put anything you like in your dtd to trick a validator, but it
>still doesn't mean your markup syntax will be correct or cross browser
>compatible

Okay Vamps, yer a lil slow so let me explain this to your dumbass.

1. the existing W3C proposed standards ARE NOT cross browser
compatible, they couldn't be, because NO BROWSER IN EXISTENCE fully
complies with W3C specs...in fact most all of them don't even come
close to 70% compliancy...nor should they for that matter. If all
browsers were W3C compliant there wouldn't be any point to having more
than one browser.

2. The DTD is a HACKED DTD, you can't ~really~ make your own DTD from
scratch...well I suppose you could but it wouldn't validate on the
W3Cs website. It would come up with zero errors though if you matched
it.

3. There is no such thing as "correct", VampiCramps. I'm not sure at
what point you got it into that thick XXXXin skull of yours that there
was some absolute "right way" of web coding, but you just need to wake
it the XXXX up right now and come on back to reality, Stupid.

4. All of these are points that you would EASILY comprehend...if you
actually were a web designer/coder. To put a fine point on
it...you're not. You're basically the web designer/coder equivalent
of a pop psychologist, ya stupid Fruitk00k.

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No comment? I guess you know it's true then, neh?
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>why?

1. It takes about 10 times as much effort.
2. It's less efficient
3. It moves away from standardization (the kind that actually exists,
not the fairy tale, hand holding, fantasy land bullshit the W3C puts
out)
4. devicefont
5. play
6. loop
7. quality
8. bgcolor
9. scale
10. salign
11. menu
12. wmode
13. allowscriptaccess
14. SeamlessTabbing

If you need any more reasons just refer back to all the embed
parameters for wmp and quicktime, you XXXXin doorknob!

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>flash satay, which given your noobie status i am not surprised you
>haven't come across, is very concise ... furthermore the object
>model is supported by most browsers
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>it also provides an elegant way to display content to non-flash
>enabled browsers

Actually it's not elegant at all, in fact the d00d pretty much says
it's a bastardize way of doing it, nor does he give hardly any
information on WHAT browser and WHAT operating systems he tested it on
(10 to 1 says it'll frell on at least half of them).

And yes, Vampicramps, I was aware of the screwballs method...LOOOONG
before your dumbass Googled it up in abject frustration at looking
like a XXXXING MORON!

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>we weren't discussing quicktime, but flash ...

No Stupid, we were discussing the embed tag, which applied to ALL
sorts of stuff, not just Flash. Google, XXXXX, GOOGLE!

>still, since you are so inanely rude, i won't share with you my own
>hack to create valid cross platform code for mp3s

*shakes head*

Just...just shut the XXXX up Vamps, seriously, yer stupidity is just
MIND NUMBING, it really is...cross platform code for mp3s...Jesus
XXXXin Keerist nailed to a cross and bleeding all over the gawd damn
carpet are you just unfathomably DUMB! o_O

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http://www.backwater-productions.net

Vampi Fangs

2005-08-22, 4:32 am

On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:08:17 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter
<usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:18:34 +1000, Vampi Fangs <vampi@nwglfo.org>
>wrote:
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>Okay Vamps, yer a lil slow so let me explain this to your dumbass.
>
>1. the existing W3C proposed standards ARE NOT cross browser
>compatible, they couldn't be, because NO BROWSER IN EXISTENCE fully
>complies with W3C specs...in fact most all of them don't even come
>close to 70% compliancy...nor should they for that matter. If all
>browsers were W3C compliant there wouldn't be any point to having more
>than one browser.

omg

>2. The DTD is a HACKED DTD, you can't ~really~ make your own DTD from
>scratch...well I suppose you could but it wouldn't validate on the
>W3Cs website. It would come up with zero errors though if you matched
>it.

you patently haven't delved into custom xhtml/xml declarations, you
poor ole thing

>3. There is no such thing as "correct", VampiCramps.

as you speak as one whose pathetic markup has broken more browsers
than i've ever seen, your blither is fabulously comical

> I'm not sure at
>what point you got it into that thick XXXXin skull of yours that there
>was some absolute "right way" of web coding, but you just need to wake
>it the XXXX up right now and come on back to reality, Stupid.
>
>4. All of these are points that you would EASILY comprehend...if you
>actually were a web designer/coder. To put a fine point on
>it...you're not. You're basically the web designer/coder equivalent
>of a pop psychologist, ya stupid Fruitk00k.

your alzheimers is kicking in again

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>No comment? I guess you know it's true then, neh?

there's plenty of online sources on dtds, but it's become very clear
your familiarity with them is scanty

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>1. It takes about 10 times as much effort.

why? it's much quicker and easier and more concise than hacking up a
dubious dtd

>2. It's less efficient

bullshit

>3. It moves away from standardization (the kind that actually exists,
>not the fairy tale, hand holding, fantasy land bullshit the W3C puts
>out)

nonsense ... <object> is the standard

your created entities and attributes are not

>4. devicefont
>5. play
>6. loop
>7. quality
>8. bgcolor
>9. scale
>10. salign
>11. menu
>12. wmode
>13. allowscriptaccess
>14. SeamlessTabbing

perhaps you might like to produce a list of the corresponding object
parameters rather than revelling in deprecated embed attributes

>If you need any more reasons just refer back to all the embed
>parameters for wmp and quicktime, you XXXXin doorknob!
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>Actually it's not elegant at all, in fact the d00d pretty much says
>it's a bastardize way of doing it, nor does he give hardly any
>information on WHAT browser and WHAT operating systems he tested it on
>(10 to 1 says it'll frell on at least half of them).

it doesn't

>And yes, Vampicramps, I was aware of the screwballs method...LOOOONG
>before your dumbass Googled it up in abject frustration at looking
>like a XXXXING MORON!
>
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>No Stupid, we were discussing the embed tag, which applied to ALL
>sorts of stuff, not just Flash. Google, XXXXX, GOOGLE!

">>>>if you are using flash and xhtml, afaik you don't need to use
embed"

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Onideus Mad Hatter

2005-08-22, 7:33 pm

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:04:34 +1000, Vampi Fangs <vampi@nwglfo.org>
wrote:

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>omg

What did you just have an apifany? Suddenly realize how XXXXing DUMB
you are?

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>you patently haven't delved into custom xhtml/xml declarations, you
>poor ole thing

If I wanted "your" opinion I'd go run a Google search.

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>as you speak as one whose pathetic markup has broken more browsers
>than i've ever seen, your blither is fabulously comical

http://www.backwater-productions.net/
Should work with anything, Stupid. Find me a browser/OS combo that it
doesn't work on (and don't just shit at the mouth, post a screen
capture to prove yourself).

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>your alzheimers is kicking in again

Well don't stop now, Stupid, go ahead and post all the links to your
incredible sites! *snicker*

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>there's plenty of online sources on dtds, but it's become very clear
>your familiarity with them is scanty

No, no, see unlike you I don't just READ shit in Google, I actually
TEST IT. It's a little something I like to call "experience"...get
some, you'll look less stupid.

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>why? it's much quicker and easier and more concise than hacking up a
>dubious dtd

Hacking the DTD only took 10 minutes (probably DAYS less than what
that other fruit ball put into his failed endeavor). And once it's
been done...that's it. I mean, there's no other steps, no making
Flash loaders or any stupid hoo ha like that, it's just done, finshed.

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>bullshit

Close your mouth then and quit typing.

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>nonsense ... <object> is the standard

There's you...not knowing what the XXXX you're talking about again.

>your created entities and attributes are not
>

Oh *MY* created entities and attributes, neh? LOL, hey everybody,
apparently I inveted all the different Flash parameters! Damn, I'm
even cooler than I first thought! Like wmode, XXXX that means I
invented Flash transparencies, sweet!
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>perhaps you might like to produce a list of the corresponding object
>parameters rather than revelling in deprecated embed attributes

Hey, hey MORON, you *DO* know that you don't need the object tags,
right? With all teh latest browsers versions (at least on Windows)
all you need is the embed tag. I mean...
http://www.backwater-productions.net/
o_O

Do you see the word "object" in there anywhere?

And free cl00, STUPID, the parameters for object are GOING TO BE THE
SAME for the embed tag...you stupid XXXXin doorknob! Yeesh,
apparently you don't even XXXXin comprehend what those tags are doing!

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>it doesn't

"The workaround is simple: just include one sacrificial movie at the
front of your site with the codebase attribute left in. This needs to
be a movie with no purpose within the site—just a 1k empty blob of
nothingness that causes the user to be prompted if they have an old
version of the plug in. Not the cleanest approach, but a practical
one. It shouldn’t lose you any friends."

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>embed"
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Boy you have no idea how relieved I am to see you decided to shut
yourself the XXXX up about that whole "cross platform code for mp3s"
cause I didn't wanna have to verbally XXXX ya up TWICE in one night.
o_O

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Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net

Noodles Jefferson

2005-08-23, 4:29 am

In article <i6ejg1pf8b9iv6bbr1i742c97ai8r1ps0d@4ax.com>, Onideus Mad
Hatter (usenet@backwater-productions.net) dropped a +5 bundle of
words...

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> What did you just have an apifany?

Epipheny

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