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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-21, 4:19 am |
| Can you go to this site with as many browsers as you've got on either
Linux or Mac and then post the results:
http://www.backwater-productions.ne...m/bw3/test.html
I did manage to create my own DTD and I got it to accept the embed
tag, however I wasn't able to get the DTD to work with the table
height attribute (at least not as a percentage).
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
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| Roy Schestowitz 2005-08-21, 4:19 am |
| On Sunday 21 August 2005 07:09, Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> Can you go to this site with as many browsers as you've got on either
> Linux or Mac and then post the results:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...m/bw3/test.html
>
> I did manage to create my own DTD and I got it to accept the embed
> tag, however I wasn't able to get the DTD to work with the table
> height attribute (at least not as a percentage).
SuSE Linux with kernel 2.4:
Firefox 1.0.5.:
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Operating System - Linux
Browser - Firefox
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 1213
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 692
self.screen.width - 2560
self.screen.height - 960
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 1213
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 692
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 1213
self.innerHeight - 692
======================
Konqueror 3.1.1:
======================
Operating System - Linux
Browser - Konqueror
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 1127
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 20
self.screen.width - 1280
self.screen.height - 960
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 1127
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 20
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 1127
self.innerHeight - 756
======================
Mozilla 1.7.3:
======================
Operating System - Linux
Browser - Netscape Navigator
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 1012
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 623
self.screen.width - 2560
self.screen.height - 960
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 1012
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 623
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 1012
self.innerHeight - 623
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Netscape Communicator:
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Nothing displayed
======================
Hope it helps,
Roy
PS - Crosspost more tactfully please.
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Roy S. Schestowitz while (sig==sig) sig=!sig;
http://Schestowitz.com
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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-21, 4:19 am |
| On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 23:21:18 -0700, Exyle
<usenet.qwest@reg.exyled.net> wrote:
>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>
>Just use CSS for that :P
The only method for vertical centering alignment using CSS is
incompatible with IE and Safari on the Mac. Just do what I asked or
XXXX off, Kid. I'm not looking for inane blow hard inexperienced
commentary.
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Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
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| On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 23:09:24 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> Can you go to this site with as many browsers as you've got on either
> Linux or Mac and then post the results:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...m/bw3/test.html
Operating System - Linux
Browser - Firefox
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 1068
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 659
self.screen.width - 1152
self.screen.height - 864
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 1068
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 659
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 1068
self.innerHeight - 659
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Operating System - Linux
Browser - Netscape Navigator
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 1063
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 674
self.screen.width - 1152
self.screen.height - 864
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 1063
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 674
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 1063
self.innerHeight - 674
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Operating System - Linux
Browser - Opera
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 1074
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 16
self.screen.width - 1152
self.screen.height - 864
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 1074
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 16
self.screenTop - 131
self.screenLeft - 6
self.innerWidth - 1074
self.innerHeight - 648
--
Jafar Calley
Producer - http://moonlife-records.com
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| FrozenNorth 2005-08-21, 7:26 pm |
| On August 21, 2005 2:09 am Onideus Mad Hatter tossed the following into the
public domain:
> Can you go to this site with as many browsers as you've got on either
> Linux or Mac and then post the results:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...m/bw3/test.html
>
> I did manage to create my own DTD and I got it to accept the embed
> tag, however I wasn't able to get the DTD to work with the table
> height attribute (at least not as a percentage).
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹
> http://www.backwater-productions.net
Operating System - Linux
Browser - Netscape Navigator
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 883
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 507
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 883
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 507
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 883
self.innerHeight - 507
--
Froz ...
How much net work could a network work, if a network could net work?
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| Spanky The Thunder Chicken 2005-08-21, 7:26 pm |
| In article <hb6gg1pbu5v3bq8hsh3bskj4i2irh7a031@4ax.com>,
Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
> Can you go to this site with as many browsers as you've got on either
> Linux or Mac and then post the results:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...m/bw3/test.html
>
> I did manage to create my own DTD and I got it to accept the embed
> tag, however I wasn't able to get the DTD to work with the table
> height attribute (at least not as a percentage).
*** SAFARI 1.0.3
Operating System - Mac
Browser - Safari
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 909
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 8
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 909
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 8
self.screenTop - 22
self.screenLeft - 1
self.innerWidth - 909
self.innerHeight - 614
*** IE 5.2
Operating System - Mac
Browser - IE
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 968
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 15
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - undefined
document.documentElement.clientHeight - undefined
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - undefined
self.innerHeight - undefined
*** IE 5.1 (Classic)
Operating System - Mac
Browser - IE
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 968
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 15
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - undefined
document.documentElement.clientHeight - undefined
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - undefined
self.innerHeight - undefined
*** FireFox 1.0.5
Operating System - Mac
Browser - Firefox
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 896
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 640
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 896
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 640
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 896
self.innerHeight - 640
*** Netscape 7.0 (Classic)
Operating System - Mac
Browser - Netscape Navigator
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 969
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 465
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 0
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 0
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 969
self.innerHeight - 465
###
The documentElement offsets change with the window size. Unfortunately,
under a Mac, there is no such thing as "maximized" (it just makes the
window the same height as the screen, but not the full width), so most
people will not be browsing with a full screen.
This means, by the way, that the self.screen.width and height elements
are useless, because they give the screen resolution, not the actual
size of the window. Plus the height has buttons, menu and toolbars to
contend with.
One other option you have is to define the flash as 50% of the screen
and use spacer gif files defined as 25% on each side and top and bottom.
I've never tested that last method, but it SHOULD work. I have no idea
what affect that would give if someone resized their window while on the
page, though.
--
Father Uncle Mac Usin' Antny
mhm 11x10
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| PerfectReign 2005-08-21, 7:26 pm |
| On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:42:44 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken pretented
somebody gave a rat's XXX and spewed forth:
> In article <hb6gg1pbu5v3bq8hsh3bskj4i2irh7a031@4ax.com>,
> Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
>
>
> *** SAFARI 1.0.3
>
> Operating System - Mac
> Browser - Safari
Dunno if this helps, but here's what I got in Konqueror
Operating System - Linux
Browser - Konqueror
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 811
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 10
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 811
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 10
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 811
self.innerHeight - 493
....and Firefox:
Operating System - Linux
Browser - Firefox
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 1008
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 574
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 1008
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 574
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 1008
self.innerHeight - 574
Interesting how the differences show up.
--
kai
www.perfectreign.com
linux - genuine windows replacement part
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| Noodles Jefferson 2005-08-22, 4:32 am |
| In article <hb6gg1pbu5v3bq8hsh3bskj4i2irh7a031@4ax.com>, Onideus Mad
Hatter (usenet@backwater-productions.net) dropped a +5 bundle of
words...
> Can you go to this site with as many browsers as you've got on either
> Linux or Mac and then post the results:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...m/bw3/test.html
>
> I did manage to create my own DTD and I got it to accept the embed
> tag, however I wasn't able to get the DTD to work with the table
> height attribute (at least not as a percentage).
Operating System - Windows
Browser - IE 6.0
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 1024
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 592
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 1002
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 588
self.screenTop - 122
self.screenLeft - 0
self.innerWidth - undefined
self.innerHeight - undefined
--
Noodles Jefferson
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM
"Our earth is degenerate in these latter days, bribery and corruption
are common, children no longer obey their parents and the end of the
world is evidently approaching."
--Assyrian clay tablet 2800 B.C.
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| Toby Inkster 2005-08-22, 7:17 am |
| Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> Linux or Mac and then post the results:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...m/bw3/test.html
My own comments in [brackets]
======================================================
Operating System - Linux
Browser - Opera [8.02]
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 954
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 16
self.screen.width - 1280
self.screen.height - 1024
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 954
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 16
self.screenTop - 258
self.screenLeft - 296
self.innerWidth - 954
self.innerHeight - 580
======================================================
Operating System - Linux
Browser - Netscape Navigator [Err... no. It's Epiphany, not NN.]
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 1280
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 779
self.screen.width - 1280
self.screen.height - 1024
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 1280
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 779
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 1280
self.innerHeight - 779
======================================================
[Netscape 4.8 for Linux - blank page - Javascript error]
======================================================
Operating System - Windows [NT 4]
Browser - IE [6.0]
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 768
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 379
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 748
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 375
self.screenTop - 220
self.screenLeft - 37
self.innerWidth - undefined
self.innerHeight - undefined
======================================================
Operating System - Windows [NT 4]
Browser - Netscape Navigator [Nope: Mozilla 1.0.2]
document.documentElement.offsetWidth - 687
document.documentElement.offsetHeight - 388
self.screen.width - 1024
self.screen.height - 768
document.documentElement.clientWidth - 0
document.documentElement.clientHeight - 0
self.screenTop - undefined
self.screenLeft - undefined
self.innerWidth - 687
self.innerHeight - 388
======================================================
[Opera 6.06 on Windows - javascript error - blank page]
======================================================
I'm bored now.
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Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
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