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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-20, 4:36 am |
| http://www.backwater-productions.ne...t_platform/bw3/
Let me know whether the Flash file loads dead center in your screen,
what OS you're using, what browser and what yer screen res is set at.
This new method ~should~ work on Macs, unlike the CSS vertical
centering method, which completly frells on the Mac. Like the CSS
method this one is also W3C compliant.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
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| Albert Ross 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...t_platform/bw3/
>
> Let me know whether the Flash file loads dead center in your screen,
> what OS you're using, what browser and what yer screen res is set at.
>
> This new method ~should~ work on Macs, unlike the CSS vertical
> centering method, which completly frells on the Mac. Like the CSS
> method this one is also W3C compliant.
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹
> http://www.backwater-productions.net
OS Mepis Linux 2.6.4
1024x768
Mozilla - dead centre
Konqueror - Only lower half of page appears in window, unscrollable.
You might want to add a message for Konqueror users telling them to grow up
--
enihcam siht htiw thgir etiuq ton si gnihtemos
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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:56:45 +0000 (UTC), Albert Ross
<albert.ross@BTConnect.com> wrote:
>Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>
>
>OS Mepis Linux 2.6.4
>
>1024x768
>
>Mozilla - dead centre
>
>Konqueror - Only lower half of page appears in window, unscrollable.
>
>You might want to add a message for Konqueror users telling them to grow up
Yeah Konqueror seems to be a really failing browser, even worse than
Opera. Someone sent me this via email:
:Why does Konqueror crash on every page with Flash?
:
:This is a result of a clashing symbol in both the flash plugin and the
:XFree86 libGLU (OpenGL utility lib). Upon closing an embedded flash
:view, the wrong function is called which heavily corrupts memory and
:leads to either immediately or delayed crashes, lockups and worse.
:The only solution that is currently known is either to install Qt
:without OpenGL support or to not use the Flash plugin. You can't
:combine both until this symbol clash is somehow solved. Unfortunately
:we cannot do much about this issue, unless Macromedia is willing to
:help. Another reason for Konqueror to crash on every page using a
:Netscape plugin is the use of gcc3. Plugins can't work with gcc3
:because they are linked to gcc2's libstdc++, which is incompatible
:with gcc3's libstdc++.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
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| PerfectReign 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| someone posing as Onideus Mad Hatter figured someone gave a rat's XXX and
spewed out:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...t_platform/bw3/
>
> Let me know whether the Flash file loads dead center in your screen,
> what OS you're using, what browser and what yer screen res is set at.
>
> This new method ~should~ work on Macs, unlike the CSS vertical
> centering method, which completly frells on the Mac. Like the CSS
> method this one is also W3C compliant.
>
Are you on drugs? Asking for Mac/Linux opinions? Bizarre
Anyway...
FF/Mozilla = loads fine
Konqueror/Opera (neither of which I use) = loads in the top 1/3 of the
window.
ie - didn't load. I got a black line across the top of the window - maybe 10
pixels thick, then white on the rest of the window.
HTH!
--
kai
www.perfectreign.com
linux - genuine windows replacement part
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| Albert Ross 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 11:56:45 +0000 (UTC), Albert Ross
> <albert.ross@BTConnect.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Yeah Konqueror seems to be a really failing browser, even worse than
> Opera. Someone sent me this via email:
>
> :Why does Konqueror crash on every page with Flash?
> :
> :This is a result of a clashing symbol in both the flash plugin and the
> :XFree86 libGLU (OpenGL utility lib). Upon closing an embedded flash
> :view, the wrong function is called which heavily corrupts memory and
> :leads to either immediately or delayed crashes, lockups and worse.
> :The only solution that is currently known is either to install Qt
> :without OpenGL support or to not use the Flash plugin. You can't
> :combine both until this symbol clash is somehow solved. Unfortunately
> :we cannot do much about this issue, unless Macromedia is willing to
> :help. Another reason for Konqueror to crash on every page using a
> :Netscape plugin is the use of gcc3. Plugins can't work with gcc3
> :because they are linked to gcc2's libstdc++, which is incompatible
> :with gcc3's libstdc++.
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹
> http://www.backwater-productions.net
I'll rename the exe to "surrender"
You want me to try lynx for you while I'm at it?
--
enihcam siht htiw thgir etiuq ton si gnihtemos
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| Spanky The Thunder Chicken 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| In article <88ldg1h6oob4r9em3vreodfe7haik39l3f@4ax.com>,
Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...t_platform/bw3/
>
> Let me know whether the Flash file loads dead center in your screen,
> what OS you're using, what browser and what yer screen res is set at.
>
> This new method ~should~ work on Macs, unlike the CSS vertical
> centering method, which completly frells on the Mac. Like the CSS
> method this one is also W3C compliant.
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹
> http://www.backwater-productions.net
Nope and nope for Mac OS X 10.2 with Safari 1.0.3 and IE 5.2. It's
horizontally centered under Safari, but you only see the bottom half or
so of it (it's positioned off the top of the screen). Under IE, it's
just in the upper left corner as though it's not positioned at all.
--
Father Uncle Mac Usin' Antny
mhm 11x10
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| FrozenNorth 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| On August 20, 2005 3:09 am Onideus Mad Hatter tossed the following into the
public domain:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...t_platform/bw3/
>
> Let me know whether the Flash file loads dead center in your screen,
> what OS you're using, what browser and what yer screen res is set at.
>
> This new method ~should~ work on Macs, unlike the CSS vertical
> centering method, which completly frells on the Mac. Like the CSS
> method this one is also W3C compliant.
>
One more failure on the pile, Mattie, Linux 2.6.12, Mozilla 1.7.10, screen
at 1024x768, image off towards the upper left. But do keep trying, it
makes so many people laugh at your skills.
--
Froz ...
How much net work could a network work, if a network could net work?
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| Richie Dawson 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| it worked perfect im usind winxp pro ie 6 rez 1024x768
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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:30:49 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken
<antny@meow.org> wrote:
>Nope and nope for Mac OS X 10.2 with Safari 1.0.3 and IE 5.2. It's
>horizontally centered under Safari, but you only see the bottom half or
>so of it (it's positioned off the top of the screen). Under IE, it's
>just in the upper left corner as though it's not positioned at all.
Can you test it again for me, I just made some alterations. The way
it's set up now is ~should~ work perfectly on Safari and IE on the
Mac...according to this site anyway:
http://www.quirksmode.org/viewport/compatibility.html
I used document.documentElement.offsetWidth/Height for Opera and then
self.innerWidth/Height for everything else (they don't mention
Konqueror though, so it might not work on that).
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
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| Toby Inkster 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne...t_platform/bw3/
>
> Let me know whether the Flash file loads dead center in your screen,
> what OS you're using, what browser and what yer screen res is set at.
Opera 8.02, Linux.
Flash object appears raised 380 pixels *above* the *top* of the page!
Try replacing the first two lines of your "load.js" file with these few
lines:
lspace = (document.documentElement.clientWidth - 760) / 2;
tspace = (document.documentElement.clientHeight - 424) / 2;
lspace = (lspace < 0) ? 0 : lspace;
tspace = (tspace < 0) ? 0 : tspace;
which will set lspace and tspace to 0 any time your
document.documentElement thing doesn't work.
Alternatively, try replacing the proprietary "document.documentElement"
with "document.body", which is overall better supported.
--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
Now Playing ~ ./bryan_adams/summer_of_69.ogg
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| Spanky The Thunder Chicken 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| In article <1f3fg19da20c7kerojh829321uq86kkpii@4ax.com>,
Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 13:30:49 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken
> <antny@meow.org> wrote:
>
>
> Can you test it again for me, I just made some alterations. The way
> it's set up now is ~should~ work perfectly on Safari and IE on the
> Mac...according to this site anyway:
> http://www.quirksmode.org/viewport/compatibility.html
>
> I used document.documentElement.offsetWidth/Height for Opera and then
> self.innerWidth/Height for everything else (they don't mention
> Konqueror though, so it might not work on that).
I got the same result for both browsers (half off the top of the screen
on Safari, no positioning on IE).
You can try the <table> <td valign="middle" align="center"> thing, but
what I've discovered about that is that it won't work if you include a
<!DOCTYPE="whatever"> definition (or maybe I wasn't defining the right
doctype).
I know you sneered at using tables to format the page before, but if it
works, it works.
--
Father Uncle Mac Usin' Antny
mhm 11x10
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| Toby Inkster 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| Spanky The Thunder Chicken wrote:
> You can try the <table> <td valign="middle" align="center"> thing, but
> what I've discovered about that is that it won't work if you include a
> <!DOCTYPE="whatever"> definition
It doesn't fail because of the <!DOCTYPE>; it fails because you're a lamer.
--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:48:57 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken
<antny@meow.org> wrote:
>In article <1f3fg19da20c7kerojh829321uq86kkpii@4ax.com>,
> Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
>
>
>I got the same result for both browsers (half off the top of the screen
>on Safari, no positioning on IE).
>
>You can try the <table> <td valign="middle" align="center"> thing, but
>what I've discovered about that is that it won't work if you include a
><!DOCTYPE="whatever"> definition (or maybe I wasn't defining the right
>doctype).
>
>I know you sneered at using tables to format the page before, but if it
>works, it works.
Well I don't mind using tables, it's just that the peanut gallery will
start screaming about W3C compliancy. I might just have to give in
the old adage, "Can't please everyone." though.
*ponders*
....actually, now that I think about it I could use the table method
but then encapsulate it into the .js script and that way it would
still validate.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
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|
| On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:56:41 -0400, FrozenNorth wrote:
> On August 20, 2005 3:09 am Onideus Mad Hatter tossed the following into the
> public domain:
>
> One more failure on the pile, Mattie, Linux 2.6.12, Mozilla 1.7.10, screen
> at 1024x768, image off towards the upper left. But do keep trying, it
> makes so many people laugh at your skills.
Mozilla 1.7.11, Firefox 1.0.6, Opera 8.0.2, under Gentoo Linux
(kernel 2.6.12-gentoo-r4) still working fine. Using Shockwave Flash
plugin v7.0 r25 if that helps.
Your bad experience with it FrozenNorth is possibly your fault? ;)
--
Jafar Calley
Producer - http://moonlife-records.com
--------------------------------------
See the latest Mars and Saturn images
http://fatcat.homelinux.org
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| sophie 2005-08-20, 7:48 pm |
| Spanky The Thunder Chicken said this:
> In article <1f3fg19da20c7kerojh829321uq86kkpii@4ax.com>,
> Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
>
>
> I got the same result for both browsers (half off the top of the screen
> on Safari, no positioning on IE).
>
> You can try the <table> <td valign="middle" align="center"> thing, but
> what I've discovered about that is that it won't work if you include a
> <!DOCTYPE="whatever"> definition (or maybe I wasn't defining the right
> doctype).
>
> I know you sneered at using tables to format the page before, but if it
> works, it works.
Uncle Antny, thank you for reminding me there are browsers other than
Firefox. I got the same thing as you with safari 1.3 (still osx 10.3.9, blah
blah.) and it's the whole page that's off the screen, too; not just your
little flash loading thing. And I couldn't face trying IE, I've never used it
on this machine and that's a record I'd like to keep...
--
sophie
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| Michael Winter 2005-08-20, 11:31 pm |
| [Follow-ups trimmed to a.html]
On 20/08/2005 22:47, Toby Inkster wrote:
[snip]
> Alternatively, try replacing the proprietary "document.documentElement"
> with "document.body", which is overall better supported.
The documentElement property isn't proprietary. It's defined in the W3C DOM.
documentElement of type Element, readonly
This is a convenience attribute that allows direct access to the
child node that is the root element of the document. For HTML
documents, this is the element with the tagName "HTML".
-- DOM 2 Core, 1.2 - Fundamental interfaces, Document interface
When in "Standards" mode, IE treats the HTML element as the canvas (not
BODY), so various dimension-related properties should be read from there.
Mike
--
Michael Winter
Prefix subject with [News] before replying by e-mail.
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| FrozenNorth 2005-08-20, 11:31 pm |
| On August 20, 2005 6:35 pm jafar tossed the following into the public
domain:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:56:41 -0400, FrozenNorth wrote:
>
>
> Mozilla 1.7.11, Firefox 1.0.6, Opera 8.0.2, under Gentoo Linux
> (kernel 2.6.12-gentoo-r4) still working fine. Using Shockwave Flash
> plugin v7.0 r25 if that helps.
> Your bad experience with it FrozenNorth is possibly your fault? ;)
>
One of Hatter's million email supporters/slurpers are you?
--
Froz ...
How much net work could a network work, if a network could net work?
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| dave hillstrom 2005-08-20, 11:31 pm |
| On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:18:23 -0400, FrozenNorth
<frozennorth123@canada.com> wrote:
>On August 20, 2005 6:35 pm jafar tossed the following into the public
>domain:
>
>One of Hatter's million email supporters/slurpers are you?
pardon me, but is this thread going to be at all entertaining? or
should i just killfile this thread full of cranky mac a linux people now
and put it out of my misery?
--
dave hillstrom
this space under construction. donations accepted.
the belgians are thieves.
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| FrozenNorth 2005-08-20, 11:31 pm |
| On August 20, 2005 6:35 pm jafar tossed the following into the public
domain:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 14:56:41 -0400, FrozenNorth wrote:
>
>
> Mozilla 1.7.11, Firefox 1.0.6, Opera 8.0.2, under Gentoo Linux
> (kernel 2.6.12-gentoo-r4) still working fine. Using Shockwave Flash
> plugin v7.0 r25 if that helps.
> Your bad experience with it FrozenNorth is possibly your fault? ;)
>
WTF is Shockwave Flash? they are two different Macromedia plugins,
shockwave is not available for linux, what say you Hatter slurper?
--
Froz ...
How much net work could a network work, if a network could net work?
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| FrozenNorth 2005-08-20, 11:31 pm |
| On August 20, 2005 7:23 pm dave hillstrom tossed the following into the
public domain:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:18:23 -0400, FrozenNorth
> <frozennorth123@canada.com> wrote:
>
>
> pardon me, but is this thread going to be at all entertaining? or
> should i just killfile this thread full of cranky mac a linux people now
> and put it out of my misery?
Killfile me or the thread, couldn't give a rat's XXX either way, or stick
around and poke Hatter with a sharp pointy stick, it is your call.
--
Froz ...
How much net work could a network work, if a network could net work?
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| Fly Cooter 2005-08-20, 11:31 pm |
| In article <88ldg1h6oob4r9em3vreodfe7haik39l3f@4ax.com>,
usenet@backwater-productions.net says...
>
>
>http://www.backwater-productions.ne...t_platform/bw3/
No text version. So if the surfer does not have Flash 7 on his computer,
he's shit out of luck unless he wants to wait several minutes for a
download he might not need. I told you TestiClees, advanced web
designers using Flash always have a link to a text version of the site.
But you go ahead and further limit your already extremely limited number
of potential surfers.
--
Fly Cooter
http://fly-cooter.tripod.com
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| Spanky The Thunder Chicken 2005-08-20, 11:31 pm |
| In article <ucbfg11s841cght44j5msi4kjpn8mvddr7@4ax.com>,
Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:48:57 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken
> <antny@meow.org> wrote:
>
>
> Well I don't mind using tables, it's just that the peanut gallery will
> start screaming about W3C compliancy. I might just have to give in
> the old adage, "Can't please everyone." though.
>
> *ponders*
>
> ...actually, now that I think about it I could use the table method
> but then encapsulate it into the .js script and that way it would
> still validate.
Well, much as I hate to actually use you as an author of words of
wisdom, but as you once said (paraphrased), it's standard if it works in
all the browsers.
XXXX the W3C.
Like I said, if you want to validate, you'll probably have to experiment
with the doctype declaration. If you omit that, most everything works.
Once again, XXXX the W3C.
--
Father Uncle Mac Usin' Antny
mhm 11x10
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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-20, 11:31 pm |
| On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:28:18 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken
<antny@meow.org> wrote:
>In article <ucbfg11s841cght44j5msi4kjpn8mvddr7@4ax.com>,
> Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
>
>
>Well, much as I hate to actually use you as an author of words of
>wisdom, but as you once said (paraphrased), it's standard if it works in
>all the browsers.
>
>XXXX the W3C.
>
>Like I said, if you want to validate, you'll probably have to experiment
>with the doctype declaration. If you omit that, most everything works.
>
>Once again, XXXX the W3C.
Indeed, XXXX em, I've decided to just go and create my own doctype, I
should be done with it in a few hours.
--
Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
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|
| On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:09:45 -0700, Fly Cooter
<fly_cooter_@example.com> wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:
> In article <88ldg1h6oob4r9em3vreodfe7haik39l3f@4ax.com>,
> usenet@backwater-productions.net says...
>
> No text version. So if the surfer does not have Flash 7 on his computer,
> he's shit out of luck unless he wants to wait several minutes for a
> download he might not need. I told you TestiClees, advanced web
> designers using Flash always have a link to a text version of the site.
> But you go ahead and further limit your already extremely limited number
> of potential surfers.
There isn't even a promising little [iframe] link leading to a blank
page this time. Where's teh fun in that?
[~]$ w3m -version
w3m version w3m/0.5.1, options lang=en,m17n,image,color,ansi-color,mouse,gpm,
menu,cookie,ssl,ssl-verify,external-uri-loader,w3mmailer,nntp,gopher,ipv6,
alarm,mark,migemo
That'll be $25 for the opinion and $25 for the detailed version
information, Mattie.
PJR :-)
--
alt.usenet.kooks award-winners and FAQ:
<http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/>
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|
| On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:18:23 -0400, FrozenNorth wrote:
> One of Hatter's million email supporters/slurpers are you?
No. I just respond to a simple and reasonable request.
--
Jafar Calley
Producer - http://moonlife-records.com
--------------------------------------
See the latest Mars and Saturn images
http://fatcat.homelinux.org
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| Spanky The Thunder Chicken 2005-08-21, 7:26 pm |
| In article <de8e0d$g76$7@oliveloaf.databasix.com>,
dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:18:23 -0400, FrozenNorth
> <frozennorth123@canada.com> wrote:
>
>
> pardon me, but is this thread going to be at all entertaining? or
> should i just killfile this thread full of cranky mac a linux people now
> and put it out of my misery?
You should BOW BEFORE THE MAJESTY OF TEH MAC!!1!
--
Father Uncle Mac Usin' Antny
mhm 11x10
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| PerfectReign 2005-08-21, 7:26 pm |
| On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 07:25:01 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken pretented
somebody gave a rat's XXX and spewed forth:
> In article <de8e0d$g76$7@oliveloaf.databasix.com>,
> dave hillstrom <DaVe@MeOw.OrG> wrote:
>
>
>
> You should BOW BEFORE THE MAJESTY OF TEH MAC!!1!
Macs have a browser?
Wow.
--
kai
www.perfectreign.com
linux - genuine windows replacement part
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| Spanky The Thunder Chicken 2005-08-21, 7:26 pm |
| In article <pan.2005.08.21.12.47.03.50711@127.0.0.1>,
PerfectReign <root@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 07:25:01 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken pretented
> somebody gave a rat's XXX and spewed forth:
>
>
> Macs have a browser?
>
> Wow.
It's a bastard version of Konqueror and an even more bastard version of
IE.
Mac is the bastard child of computers.
--
Father Uncle Mac Usin' Antny
mhm 11x10
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| PerfectReign 2005-08-21, 7:26 pm |
| On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:47:44 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken pretented
somebody gave a rat's XXX and spewed forth:
> In article <pan.2005.08.21.12.47.03.50711@127.0.0.1>,
> PerfectReign <root@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>
>
> It's a bastard version of Konqueror and an even more bastard version of
> IE.
>
> Mac is the bastard child of computers.
LOL!
Actually I quite like the current Mac OS. I think it seems to have a nice
mix of usability and stability - especially when compared to System 7 -
System 8. (I never tried system 9.) My father-in-law uses a G4 with OSX
for his work. (He's an editor.)
If the hardware weren't so XXXXing expensive and single-sourced I might
have looked at buying more macs recently.
Instead I upgraded from Windows to Linux. :)
--
kai
www.perfectreign.com
linux - genuine windows replacement part
| |
| Spanky The Thunder Chicken 2005-08-21, 7:26 pm |
| In article <pan.2005.08.21.15.18.27.889245@127.0.0.1>,
PerfectReign <root@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:47:44 -0500, Spanky The Thunder Chicken pretented
> somebody gave a rat's XXX and spewed forth:
>
>
>
> LOL!
>
> Actually I quite like the current Mac OS. I think it seems to have a nice
> mix of usability and stability - especially when compared to System 7 -
> System 8. (I never tried system 9.) My father-in-law uses a G4 with OSX
> for his work. (He's an editor.)
>
> If the hardware weren't so XXXXing expensive and single-sourced I might
> have looked at buying more macs recently.
>
> Instead I upgraded from Windows to Linux. :)
You can pick up an older G3 (Blue & White) or G4 for cheap ($100-200),
which will run OS X (up to Tiger, but the next version probably won't
run on the G3). It's not fast, but it works. I just needed it for
compatibility testing, and now I use it for usenet because it pisses
Dave off.
--
Father Uncle Mac Usin' Antny
mhm 11x10
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| Vampi Fangs 2005-08-21, 11:20 pm |
| On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 09:53:04 +0100, PJR <pjr@NOSPAMkookbusters.org>
wrote:
>On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 17:09:45 -0700, Fly Cooter
><fly_cooter_@example.com> wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:
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>There isn't even a promising little [iframe] link leading to a blank
>page this time. Where's teh fun in that?
one can only be gratified that finally hatter's dumped the cursed
iframes
>[~]$ w3m -version
>w3m version w3m/0.5.1, options lang=en,m17n,image,color,ansi-color,mouse,gpm,
>menu,cookie,ssl,ssl-verify,external-uri-loader,w3mmailer,nntp,gopher,ipv6,
>alarm,mark,migemo
>
>That'll be $25 for the opinion and $25 for the detailed version
>information, Mattie.
i'm surprised you didn't try and[sic] berate him for his bad grammar
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| Mimic 2005-08-21, 11:20 pm |
| Spanky The Thunder Chicken wrote:
> In article <ucbfg11s841cght44j5msi4kjpn8mvddr7@4ax.com>,
> Onideus Mad Hatter <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote:
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> Well, much as I hate to actually use you as an author of words of
> wisdom, but as you once said (paraphrased), it's standard if it works in
> all the browsers.
>
> XXXX the W3C.
>
> Like I said, if you want to validate, you'll probably have to experiment
> with the doctype declaration. If you omit that, most everything works.
>
> Once again, XXXX the W3C.
>
Thats what microsoft said after it pushed netscape out the way - the
result is all the xbrowser problems we see today.
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| Mimic 2005-08-21, 11:20 pm |
| Richie Dawson wrote:
> it worked perfect im usind winxp pro ie 6 rez 1024x768
>
>
hehe "Seeking Mac and Linux Beta Testers"
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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-21, 11:20 pm |
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:13:48 +1000, Vampi Fangs <vampi@nwglfo.org>
wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 09:53:04 +0100, PJR <pjr@NOSPAMkookbusters.org>
>wrote:
>
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>one can only be gratified that finally hatter's dumped the cursed
>iframes
Vampicramps has a horrible fear of iframes...we're not quite certain
why, but we believe some kind of physical abuse from her parents may
be linked.
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| PerfectReign 2005-08-22, 4:32 am |
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:17:07 +0100, Mimic pretented somebody gave a rat's
XXX and spewed forth:
> Richie Dawson wrote:
>
> hehe "Seeking Mac and Linux Beta Testers"
Just goes to show the average intelligence of WinXP users...
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| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 10:13:48 +1000, Vampi Fangs <vampi@nwglfo.org>
wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 09:53:04 +0100, PJR <pjr@NOSPAMkookbusters.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> one can only be gratified that finally hatter's dumped the cursed
> iframes
Still no content. Still no text version. Still no server-side
scripting, just ECMAscript crap that most sensible people will disable
before visiting a broken site like his.
>
> i'm surprised you didn't try and[sic] berate him for his bad grammar
> ...
I try to be kind and gentle with morons.
PJR :-)
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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-22, 7:33 pm |
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:07:56 +0100, PJR <pjr@NOSPAMkookbusters.org>
wrote:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/
>Still no content.
Has content.
>Still no text version.
Has a text version.
>Still no server-side scripting,
Last I checked PHP couldn't detect the browser width and height, oh
but I'm sure PJ Retard knew that.
>just ECMAscript crap that most sensible people will disable
>before visiting a broken site like his.
If they do then they'll see the text version, which is good, morons
like that need things as simple as possible, I wouldn't want to do
something like scare them with Flash...hell that'd be like chasing
after a cave retard with a stick of a fire whilst screaming like a
banshee.
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| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:08:06 -0700, Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:07:56 +0100, PJR <pjr@NOSPAMkookbusters.org>
> wrote:
>
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/
Thats one huuuuge file!
Segfaults firefox. error given is
/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 116: 23477 Segmentation fault "$mozbin" "$@"
firefox-bin exited with non-zero status (139)
Works in Mozilla and Opera.
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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-22, 7:33 pm |
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:48:40 +0200, jafar <nooo@nospam.com> wrote:
[color=darkred]
>Thats one huuuuge file!
Well if yer on dialup I suppose it might seem that way...it's actually
only 2mb. I might include a lil playable "game" of sorts during the
loading, something kinda like this old prototype I built:
http://www.backwater-productions.ne..._platform/game/
(only it'd work about a billion times better in Flash, especially with
the Key.isDown function).
Of course, 1.25mb of that is from the ripple effect. It's custom
chit, but the rainbowing in the ripple combined with the alpha
transparency layer just shot the 6 lil frames right through the roof.
I might modify it, make em smaller and then stretch em and maybe stick
to a single hue, that would reduce the size to around a 100 kilobytes
or so...wouldn't look quite as cool though.
>Segfaults firefox. error given is
>
>/usr/libexec/mozilla-launcher: line 116: 23477 Segmentation fault "$mozbin" "$@"
>firefox-bin exited with non-zero status (139)
Hrmmm...I wonder if that has to do with the size of Flash file, the
custom DTD, or something else entirely. I tested it on Firefox for
Windows and it worked flawlessly. Hopefully if more people are having
trouble with it on Linux (or teh MacOS) they can let me know
>Works in Mozilla and Opera.
Cool deal.
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| FrozenNorth 2005-08-22, 7:33 pm |
| On August 22, 2005 4:23 pm Onideus Mad Hatter tossed the following into the
public domain:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 16:48:40 +0200, jafar <nooo@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Well if yer on dialup I suppose it might seem that way...it's actually
> only 2mb. I might include a lil playable "game" of sorts during the
> loading, something kinda like this old prototype I built:
> http://www.backwater-productions.ne..._platform/game/
> (only it'd work about a billion times better in Flash, especially with
> the Key.isDown function).
>
> Of course, 1.25mb of that is from the ripple effect. It's custom
> chit, but the rainbowing in the ripple combined with the alpha
> transparency layer just shot the 6 lil frames right through the roof.
> I might modify it, make em smaller and then stretch em and maybe stick
> to a single hue, that would reduce the size to around a 100 kilobytes
> or so...wouldn't look quite as cool though.
>
>
> Hrmmm...I wonder if that has to do with the size of Flash file, the
> custom DTD, or something else entirely. I tested it on Firefox for
> Windows and it worked flawlessly. Hopefully if more people are having
> trouble with it on Linux (or teh MacOS) they can let me know
>
>
> Cool deal.
>
Linux, Firefox, with Flash works fine here, Konqueror
without flash, I get a big black empty.
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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-22, 7:33 pm |
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 17:22:27 -0400, FrozenNorth
<frozennorth123@canada.com> wrote:
>On August 22, 2005 4:23 pm Onideus Mad Hatter tossed the following into the
>public domain:
>
>Linux, Firefox, with Flash works fine here, Konqueror
> without flash, I get a big black empty.
I should replicate the plain text version in some <no embed> tags...or
better yet, just put the plain text version straight into the site,
but keep the font black and then just add <font color="white"> to the
the noscript and no embed tags, that would cut down on redundancy.
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| Mimic 2005-08-22, 11:26 pm |
| PerfectReign wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:17:07 +0100, Mimic pretented somebody gave a rat's
> XXX and spewed forth:
>
>
>
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> Just goes to show the average intelligence of WinXP users...
>
hey, i use winxp ;P
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| Missing Person 2005-08-23, 8:25 pm |
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:47:43 -0700 Onideus Mad Hatter
<usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in Message id:
<prhkg19pbkp65incmlq9fs7kldp302kdgk@4ax.com>:
[...] The usual snore fest.
>that would cut down on redundancy.
So would your unsubscribing from Usenet, you cud-chewing, repetitive
spastic. I don't suppose *that* will happen anytime soon, though. A pity,
that.
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| Onideus Mad Hatter 2005-08-23, 8:25 pm |
| On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:52:25 -0400, Missing Person <lick@myballs.cum>
wrote:
>On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 14:47:43 -0700 Onideus Mad Hatter
><usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in Message id:
><prhkg19pbkp65incmlq9fs7kldp302kdgk@4ax.com>:
>
>[...] The usual snore fest.
>
>
>So would your unsubscribing from Usenet, you cud-chewing, repetitive
>spastic. I don't suppose *that* will happen anytime soon, though. A pity,
>that.
You're more than welcome to start shutting yourself the XXXX up and
stop reading and replying to my posts, Kiddo...or is that too hard for
a deficient like you?
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