Computer Graphics with Photoshop

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Creative Block

mindesign

2007-05-30, 10:21 pm

Hi all

well it has happened! I have to create a killer corporate brochure for a
client and have hit a creative wall, big-time!

They are a true boutique home builder (as opposed to a small backyard firm
that can't grow because they're tight arses) and make a stunning home.

Anyway, they asked if I could create their corp. brochure and I said yes,
but added the caveat that I was extremely time-poor at the moment. They
accepted that and we went ahead.

So, I have gone through my usual process - great design references -
long walks - lots of navel gazing and all that - and just cannot get a
handle on what to do for them. I know where the problem lies ..... I just do
not warm to the owners of the firm ..... they are NOT nice people ....
sounds unbelievably lame I know, but there it is.....

Let the flames begin I guess, but I would value any advice I can get to help
break through this block. References to any designs you think are
exceptional might help too

Thanks

Steve
(Australia)

Schraalhans Keukenmeester

2007-05-31, 6:14 am

At Wed, 30 May 2007 08:57:40 +1000, mindesign let h(is|er) monkeys type:

> Hi all
>
> well it has happened! I have to create a killer corporate brochure for a
> client and have hit a creative wall, big-time!
>
> They are a true boutique home builder (as opposed to a small backyard firm
> that can't grow because they're tight arses) and make a stunning home.
>
> Anyway, they asked if I could create their corp. brochure and I said yes,
> but added the caveat that I was extremely time-poor at the moment. They
> accepted that and we went ahead.
>
> So, I have gone through my usual process - great design references -
> long walks - lots of navel gazing and all that - and just cannot get a
> handle on what to do for them. I know where the problem lies ..... I just do
> not warm to the owners of the firm ..... they are NOT nice people ....
> sounds unbelievably lame I know, but there it is.....
>
> Let the flames begin I guess, but I would value any advice I can get to help
> break through this block. References to any designs you think are
> exceptional might help too
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
> (Australia)

No flames, wouldn't know why.
Have you asked them what sites/brochures of competitors they're partial to
or particularly dislike? It may help finding a direction. And, probably
stating the obvious, be careful about what you say about a customer, even
on usenet. You never know who's lurking.

Another way may be: invite some friends and have a everything-goes
brainstorm session. For a coke and a slice of pizza people will do a lot
to help you out!

Lastly, if you're able to get into the right mindset, pretend you HAVE to
come up with a couple of ideas in a day. Paper, crayons, magazine
clippings, whatever, you envisage having to make a presentation tomorrow.

Good luck, may inspiration hit you soon. Sh.

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GordonG

2007-05-31, 10:17 pm

Schraalhans Keukenmeester wrote:
> At Wed, 30 May 2007 08:57:40 +1000, mindesign let h(is|er) monkeys type:
>
>
> No flames, wouldn't know why.
> Have you asked them what sites/brochures of competitors they're partial to
> or particularly dislike? It may help finding a direction. And, probably
> stating the obvious, be careful about what you say about a customer, even
> on usenet. You never know who's lurking.
>
> Another way may be: invite some friends and have a everything-goes
> brainstorm session. For a coke and a slice of pizza people will do a lot
> to help you out!
>
> Lastly, if you're able to get into the right mindset, pretend you HAVE to
> come up with a couple of ideas in a day. Paper, crayons, magazine
> clippings, whatever, you envisage having to make a presentation tomorrow.
>
> Good luck, may inspiration hit you soon. Sh.
>
I've done that before. It's amazing what ideas people will come up with.
One of the best I ever used came from a 10-year-old. Which doesn't
surprise me greatly...

GG

Schraalhans Keukenmeester

2007-06-01, 6:14 am

At Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:22:06 +1000, GordonG let h(is|er) monkeys type:

> I've done that before. It's amazing what ideas people will come up with.
> One of the best I ever used came from a 10-year-old. Which doesn't
> surprise me greatly...
>
> GG

Kids are great that way. They aren't boxed in yet like grownups,
and often blissfully unaware of any conventions. Too bad one can't hire
them per hour from the local kid-shoppe just for that purpose. Or do
they come equipped with an on/off switch these days, in which case it's
worth considering buying one.

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Owen Ransen

2007-06-01, 6:14 pm

On Wed, 30 May 2007 08:57:40 +1000, "mindesign"
<seriph_I_SAID_NO_BLOODY_SPAM_AT_ALL@consultant.com> wrote:

>Let the flames begin I guess, but I would value any advice I can get to help
>break through this block. References to any designs you think are
>exceptional might help too

Lateral thinking is a good technique in these circumstances.
There must be plenty of sites on the web about it. It
sounds hard but is easy.

Easy to use graphics effects:
http://www.ransen.com/

KatWoman

2007-06-01, 10:14 pm

"mindesign" <seriph_I_SAID_NO_BLOODY_SPAM_AT_ALL@consultant.com> wrote in
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> Hi all
>
> well it has happened! I have to create a killer corporate brochure for a
> client and have hit a creative wall, big-time!
>
> They are a true boutique home builder (as opposed to a small backyard firm
> that can't grow because they're tight arses) and make a stunning home.
>
> Anyway, they asked if I could create their corp. brochure and I said yes,
> but added the caveat that I was extremely time-poor at the moment. They
> accepted that and we went ahead.
>
> So, I have gone through my usual process - great design references -
> long walks - lots of navel gazing and all that - and just cannot get a
> handle on what to do for them. I know where the problem lies ..... I just
> do not warm to the owners of the firm ..... they are NOT nice people ....
> sounds unbelievably lame I know, but there it is.....
>
> Let the flames begin I guess, but I would value any advice I can get to
> help break through this block. References to any designs you think are
> exceptional might help too
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
> (Australia)
>
>
OK I have a weird maybe unhelpful comment
I can count on one hand the times I have had "Bad" feelings about a client
but the few times I have ignored that feeling and worked for them
I ALWAYS regretted taking the job
sometimes you should say no (despite the lure of the almightily $$)
or farm it out to a contractor, you get some $$, they deal and design it

My other suggestion
go to the properties they built
go inside them >>what do you feel?
ask the people who live in them about their homes?

pixmaker@comcast.net

2007-06-04, 6:14 pm

FWIW, a little time seems to work for me whether it's a creative block
or a problem-solving one.

Unfortunately, time is usually is very short supply!

You mentioned being already short on time when you discussed taking
the assisgnment. Maybe strong concentration on the other jobs will
allow your subconscious (?) to solve the creative problem.

When I had that kind of problem, I used to go fly an airplane.

In order to do it safely, it needs all of one's attention. That sort
of forces all that other stuff out of the picture for a few hours.
When you come back to earth (so to speak) you may find that you are
looking at the problem from a new perspective.

Flying worked for me. . . pick your own particular compulsion!

Katwoman had a good idea too. Go sit in a house and pretend you own
it. Stay there for a few hours. Mentally walk through routine chores
and see how it would feel to you.

Sigh! Good luck!

mindesign

2007-06-05, 10:15 pm

Thankyou all for your kind suggestions - what ultimately worked was a trip
to the local library armed with some design books, some of those image-bank
books and a notepad - I sat in the sun for a few hours ad just watched
what was going on around me - eventually I grabbed the books and flicked
through them. letting myself create commentaries on any loosely related
images that took my fancy

I saw a box of crayons, so thought of the interior designer who works for
them
I saw a cheetah running at full speed and thought of their absolute
obsession with deadlines
I saw a pic of someone getting handed a book as a gift and thought of how
they give their clients this hugely detailed dossier when they take
possession of their new home

and so it went for around three hours

I also pondered how libraries have changed over the years to remain relevant
and thought much about my own career path, and how dramatically it has
changed/grown - I started out in the Air Force and to date have had more
than 8 successful complete career changes (I am 49, so soon I will have some
idea what I am talking about) - my next - reinvention - is to become a
kitchen designer ,specialising in period-style kitchens. Of course, doing my
corporate coaching/branding work will fund my kitchen passion......

fun fun fun

Katwoman, your suggestion about bad feelings is one I very much take on
board - I know the feeling all too well and have made some horrendous
balls-ups in that dept. These people are excellent payers, which is nice -
but the owners seem to lack any evident compassion. It isn't that they're
bad people..... I just relate to folks who truly have people at heart. But I
decided to help them because they do produce the best product in their
market and their staff are very decent and fair in the dealings with me.
Also, the owners have almost nothing to do with the public nowadays, so I
interface with others in the firm to get my insights......there's no denying
that my DI-connection with the owners was what caused the issues

Thanks again for the input - it is greatly appreciated

Steve
downunder-designer

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> OK I have a weird maybe unhelpful comment
> I can count on one hand the times I have had "Bad" feelings about a client
> but the few times I have ignored that feeling and worked for them
> I ALWAYS regretted taking the job
> sometimes you should say no (despite the lure of the almightily $$)
> or farm it out to a contractor, you get some $$, they deal and design it
>
> My other suggestion
> go to the properties they built
> go inside them >>what do you feel?
> ask the people who live in them about their homes?
>
>
>
>

KatWoman

2007-06-07, 6:14 pm

"mindesign" <seriph_I_SAID_NO_BLOODY_SPAM_AT_ALL@consultant.com> wrote in
message
news:46649da2$0$1184$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
> Thankyou all for your kind suggestions - what ultimately worked was a
> trip to the local library armed with some design books, some of those
> image-bank books and a notepad - I sat in the sun for a few hours ad
> just watched what was going on around me - eventually I grabbed the
> books and flicked through them. letting myself create commentaries on any
> loosely related images that took my fancy
>
> I saw a box of crayons, so thought of the interior designer who works for
> them
> I saw a cheetah running at full speed and thought of their absolute
> obsession with deadlines
> I saw a pic of someone getting handed a book as a gift and thought of how
> they give their clients this hugely detailed dossier when they take
> possession of their new home
>
> and so it went for around three hours
>
> I also pondered how libraries have changed over the years to remain
> relevant and thought much about my own career path, and how dramatically
> it has changed/grown - I started out in the Air Force and to date have
> had more than 8 successful complete career changes (I am 49, so soon I
> will have some idea what I am talking about) - my next -
> einvention - is to become a kitchen designer ,specialising in
> period-style kitchens. Of course, doing my corporate coaching/branding
> work will fund my kitchen passion......
>
> fun fun fun
>
> Katwoman, your suggestion about bad feelings is one I very much take on
> board - I know the feeling all too well and have made some horrendous
> balls-ups in that dept. These people are excellent payers, which is
> ice - but the owners seem to lack any evident compassion. It isn't that
> they're bad people..... I just relate to folks who truly have people at
> heart. But I decided to help them because they do produce the best product
> in their market and their staff are very decent and fair in the dealings
> with me. Also, the owners have almost nothing to do with the public
> nowadays, so I interface with others in the firm to get my
> insights......there's no denying that my DI-connection with the owners was
> what caused the issues
>
> Thanks again for the input - it is greatly appreciated
>
> Steve
> downunder-designer

such a pleasure to converse with polite, literate adults
Steve
nice to meet you
happy you got back on track
"lack any evident compassion" <<< why they really need your ideas
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