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Bob Williams

2007-03-16, 4:14 am

I have a some old B/W photographs that I want to render in Sepia Tone.
I scanned them in RGB and edited them to my satisfaction in PS 7.0
To get the Sepia Tone I just created a new layer and filled it with a
brownish color at low opacity. I fiddled around with color and levels
adjustment until I got something that looked pretty good.
Is there some color combination of RGB (R=X, G=Y, B=Z) that produces a
"standard" Sepia Tone color?
Or is there some better way to get the effect I want?
Bob Williams

Douglas.

2007-03-16, 4:14 am


"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
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:I have a some old B/W photographs that I want to render in Sepia Tone.
: I scanned them in RGB and edited them to my satisfaction in PS 7.0
: To get the Sepia Tone I just created a new layer and filled it with a
: brownish color at low opacity. I fiddled around with color and levels
: adjustment until I got something that looked pretty good.
: Is there some color combination of RGB (R=X, G=Y, B=Z) that produces a
: "standard" Sepia Tone color?
: Or is there some better way to get the effect I want?
: Bob Williams
:
Probably the best way to get back to "real" B&W in Photoshop is BW Styler
plugin from photo wiz. Exceptional choice of mimicked film and paper types.
A few bells and whistles I'd rather do with PS but in the whole, it's
excellent.

Douglas
http://www.brisbaneweddingphotographers.com


Peter Wollenberg

2007-03-16, 7:14 am

Bob Williams <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote:

>I have a some old B/W photographs that I want to render in Sepia Tone.
>I scanned them in RGB and edited them to my satisfaction in PS 7.0
>To get the Sepia Tone I just created a new layer and filled it with a
>brownish color at low opacity. I fiddled around with color and levels
>adjustment until I got something that looked pretty good.
>Is there some color combination of RGB (R=X, G=Y, B=Z) that produces a
>"standard" Sepia Tone color?



CS2 comes with a sepia photo filter which has RGB 172 122 51
I recommend you put a layer of this color on top of the BW image and
set the layer blending mode to "color". Then double click on the blank
space right to the layer name (probably "layer 1") or go to
Layer->Layer Style-> Blending options. A window will pop up with two
sliders at the bottom. Keep the Alt key pressed and move the left half
of the bottom right white slider to the utmost left. The right half of
the slider should stay where it is. This setting gradually reduces the
effect of the color blend from shadows to highlights. If you do not do
this, the light parts of the image will look as if watering of the
print was insufficient and the silver grain has been degraded to
silver sulfide.

Peter
Harry Limey

2007-03-16, 7:14 pm


"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
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>I have a some old B/W photographs that I want to render in Sepia Tone.
> I scanned them in RGB and edited them to my satisfaction in PS 7.0
> To get the Sepia Tone I just created a new layer and filled it with a
> brownish color at low opacity. I fiddled around with color and levels
> adjustment until I got something that looked pretty good.
> Is there some color combination of RGB (R=X, G=Y, B=Z) that produces a
> "standard" Sepia Tone color?
> Or is there some better way to get the effect I want?
> Bob Williams


Bob you might also try this free software which seems to have a lot of
choices!
http://www.optikvervelabs.com/


Owen Ransen

2007-03-16, 7:14 pm

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:20:42 -0700, Bob Williams
<mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote:

>I have a some old B/W photographs that I want to render in Sepia Tone.
>I scanned them in RGB and edited them to my satisfaction in PS 7.0
>To get the Sepia Tone I just created a new layer and filled it with a
>brownish color at low opacity. I fiddled around with color and levels
>adjustment until I got something that looked pretty good.
>Is there some color combination of RGB (R=X, G=Y, B=Z) that produces a
>"standard" Sepia Tone color?
>Or is there some better way to get the effect I want?


You could have a look at:

http://www.ransen.com/Repligator/Sepia-Filter.htm


Easy to use graphics effects:
http://www.ransen.com/
Bob Williams

2007-03-16, 7:14 pm



Peter Wollenberg wrote:
> Bob Williams <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> CS2 comes with a sepia photo filter which has RGB 172 122 51
> I recommend you put a layer of this color on top of the BW image and
> set the layer blending mode to "color". Then double click on the blank
> space right to the layer name (probably "layer 1") or go to
> Layer->Layer Style-> Blending options. A window will pop up with two
> sliders at the bottom. Keep the Alt key pressed and move the left half
> of the bottom right white slider to the utmost left. The right half of
> the slider should stay where it is. This setting gradually reduces the
> effect of the color blend from shadows to highlights. If you do not do
> this, the light parts of the image will look as if watering of the
> print was insufficient and the silver grain has been degraded to
> silver sulfide.
>
> Peter



Thanks for that info.
Surprisingly enough, the sepia color I ended up with, had very much the
same ratios of RGB as the 172 122 51 color chosen by CS2
My color was lighter but almost the same hue.
I'll check out the procedure you described
Bob


Harry Limey

2007-03-16, 7:14 pm


"Owen Ransen" <willy@wonker.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:20:42 -0700, Bob Williams
> <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> You could have a look at:
>
> http://www.ransen.com/Repligator/Sepia-Filter.htm
>
>
> Easy to use graphics effects:
> http://www.ransen.com/


Or indeed you could pay for Owen Ransen's software for something that looks
like it was done by a complete beginner!!!


KatWoman

2007-03-16, 7:14 pm


"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ZGqKh.92625$dO6.84557@newsfe07.phx...
>I have a some old B/W photographs that I want to render in Sepia Tone.
> I scanned them in RGB and edited them to my satisfaction in PS 7.0
> To get the Sepia Tone I just created a new layer and filled it with a
> brownish color at low opacity. I fiddled around with color and levels
> adjustment until I got something that looked pretty good.
> Is there some color combination of RGB (R=X, G=Y, B=Z) that produces a
> "standard" Sepia Tone color?
> Or is there some better way to get the effect I want?
> Bob Williams


some other nice techniques from simple:
adjustment layer on HUE SAT on colorize move slider to desired color
to more complex
'The DUOTONE interface is awesome.





mytbob

2007-03-16, 11:14 pm



Peter Wollenberg wrote:
> Bob Williams <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> CS2 comes with a sepia photo filter which has RGB 172 122 51
> I recommend you put a layer of this color on top of the BW image and
> set the layer blending mode to "color". Then double click on the blank
> space right to the layer name (probably "layer 1") or go to
> Layer->Layer Style-> Blending options. A window will pop up with two
> sliders at the bottom. Keep the Alt key pressed and move the left half
> of the bottom right white slider to the utmost left. The right half of
> the slider should stay where it is. This setting gradually reduces the
> effect of the color blend from shadows to highlights. If you do not do
> this, the light parts of the image will look as if watering of the
> print was insufficient and the silver grain has been degraded to
> silver sulfide.
>
> Peter



Thanks for that info.
Surprisingly enough, the sepia color I ended up with, had very much the
same ratios of RGB as the 172 122 51 color chosen by CS2
My color was lighter but almost the same hue.
I'll check out the procedure you described
Bob



Bob Williams

2007-03-17, 7:14 pm



KatWoman wrote:

> "Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ZGqKh.92625$dO6.84557@newsfe07.phx...
>
>
>
> some other nice techniques from simple:
> adjustment layer on HUE SAT on colorize move slider to desired color
> to more complex
> 'The DUOTONE interface is awesome.



How do I access the Duotone Mode?
When I have an image in RGB and click Image > Mode > the Duotone option
is greyed out. Even if I convert to Greyscale, Duotone option is still
greyed out.
Bob Williams

Douglas.

2007-03-18, 7:14 am


"KatWoman" <XXXJoliePrincessKatanaXXX@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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:
: "Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
: news:ZGqKh.92625$dO6.84557@newsfe07.phx...
: >I have a some old B/W photographs that I want to render in Sepia Tone.
: > I scanned them in RGB and edited them to my satisfaction in PS 7.0
: > To get the Sepia Tone I just created a new layer and filled it with a
: > brownish color at low opacity. I fiddled around with color and levels
: > adjustment until I got something that looked pretty good.
: > Is there some color combination of RGB (R=X, G=Y, B=Z) that produces a
: > "standard" Sepia Tone color?
: > Or is there some better way to get the effect I want?
: > Bob Williams
:
: some other nice techniques from simple:
: adjustment layer on HUE SAT on colorize move slider to desired color
: to more complex
: 'The DUOTONE interface is awesome.
:
:
:
:
I suppose preaching to the converted is OK?
Sepia toning was traditionally never a precise science. It required the
addition of chemicals to water and submerging to photo in said mixture until
your were satisfied of the tone.

You are never going to standardise a sepia tone colour because it was never
a standard in the first place so ANY variation on brown can legitimately be
called sepia.

Douglas


KatWoman

2007-03-18, 7:14 pm


"Douglas." <dj4groups-only@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "KatWoman" <XXXJoliePrincessKatanaXXX@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:A2DKh.5319$nV1.2727@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> :
> : "Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
> : news:ZGqKh.92625$dO6.84557@newsfe07.phx...
> : >I have a some old B/W photographs that I want to render in Sepia Tone.
> : > I scanned them in RGB and edited them to my satisfaction in PS 7.0
> : > To get the Sepia Tone I just created a new layer and filled it with a
> : > brownish color at low opacity. I fiddled around with color and levels
> : > adjustment until I got something that looked pretty good.
> : > Is there some color combination of RGB (R=X, G=Y, B=Z) that produces
> a
> : > "standard" Sepia Tone color?
> : > Or is there some better way to get the effect I want?
> : > Bob Williams
> :
> : some other nice techniques from simple:
> : adjustment layer on HUE SAT on colorize move slider to desired color
> : to more complex
> : 'The DUOTONE interface is awesome.
> :
> :
> :
> :
> I suppose preaching to the converted is OK?
> Sepia toning was traditionally never a precise science. It required the
> addition of chemicals to water and submerging to photo in said mixture
> until
> your were satisfied of the tone.
>
> You are never going to standardise a sepia tone colour because it was
> never
> a standard in the first place so ANY variation on brown can legitimately
> be
> called sepia.
>
> Douglas
>

it was smelly too!!!!



Bob Williams

2007-03-19, 4:14 am



KatWoman wrote:

> "Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:UMWKh.43153$S%2.1848@newsfe06.phx...
>
>
>
> To convert an image to duotone:
>
> 1.. Convert the image to grayscale by choosing Image > Mode > Grayscale.
> Only 8-bit grayscale images can be converted to duotones.
> 2.. Choose Image > Mode > Duotone.
> 3.. In the Duotone Options dialog box, select Preview to view the effects
> of the duotone settings on the image.
> 4.. Select Monotone, Duotone, Tritone, or Quadtone for Type.
> 5.. To specify ink colors, click the color box (the solid square) for an
> ink. Then use the Color Picker or click the Custom button in Color Picker
> dialog box to open the Custom Colors dialog box to select an ink. For more
> information on the Adobe Color Picker, see Using the Adobe Color Picker.
> Note: To produce fully saturated colors, make sure that inks are specified
> in descending order--darkest at the top, lightest at the bottom.
>
> 6.. Click the curve box next to the color ink box and adjust the duotone
> curve for each ink color. (See Modifying the duotone curve.)
> 7.. Set overprint colors, if necessary. (See Specifying overprint colors.)
> 8.. Click OK.
> To apply a duotone effect to only part of an image, convert the duotone
> image to Multichannel mode--this converts the duotone curves to spot
> channels. You can then erase part of the spot channel for areas that you
> want printed as standard grayscale. (See Adding spot colors (Photoshop).)



Hey! That is Way cool.
I've never done that before
You can bet I'll do a lot more of that in the future.
Thanks for the helpful tute.
Bob Williams

KatWoman

2007-03-20, 7:14 pm


"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> KatWoman wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey! That is Way cool.
> I've never done that before
> You can bet I'll do a lot more of that in the future.
> Thanks for the helpful tute.
> Bob Williams



I copied it from the HELP file!! LOL but happy you liked it
someone on here told me about it
maybe tacit or edjh??
just paying it forward


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