Computer Graphics with Photoshop - How to get a printer ICC profile to be available in the windows drop down?

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How to get a printer ICC profile to be available in the windows drop down?

Gramps@oldtown.com

2007-01-10, 6:19 pm

I must be missing the obvious.

I downloaded an Epson profile from the Epson site and renamed it from
SP2200xxx.icc to SP2200xxx.icm. Installed and associated it with the
printer.

It shows under settings/printers, but when in PS (or other apps) and
printing - going to preferences it does not appear.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
G.

Mike Russell

2007-01-10, 6:19 pm

<Gramps@oldtown.com> wrote in message
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>I must be missing the obvious.
>
> I downloaded an Epson profile from the Epson site and renamed it from
> SP2200xxx.icc to SP2200xxx.icm. Installed and associated it with the
> printer.
>
> It shows under settings/printers, but when in PS (or other apps) and
> printing - going to preferences it does not appear.
>
> What am I doing wrong?

The profile will show up in Photoshop by it's descriptive name, not its file
name. If necessary, use File>Properties on the original .icc or .icm file
to get this information.
--

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

Gramps@oldtown.com

2007-01-10, 6:19 pm

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 04:07:58 GMT, "Mike Russell"
<RE-MOVEmike@Curvemeister.comRE-MOVE> wrote:

><Gramps@oldtown.com> wrote in message
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>
>The profile will show up in Photoshop by it's descriptive name, not its file
>name. If necessary, use File>Properties on the original .icc or .icm file
>to get this information.

Thank you Mike, but I still do not find the profile under either (File
name = SP2200 Canvas-Luster 1440_Orig.icm, descriptive name = SP2200
Canvas-Luster 1440.icc).

Do I have to find a way to modify the descriptive name from ICC to
ICM?

Thanks again,
G

Mike Russell

2007-01-10, 6:19 pm

<Gramps@oldtown.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 04:07:58 GMT, "Mike Russell"

[re profile not showing up in Photoshop]
> Thank you Mike, but I still do not find the profile under either (File
> name = SP2200 Canvas-Luster 1440_Orig.icm, descriptive name = SP2200
> Canvas-Luster 1440.icc).

From your statement that you associated the profiel with your printer, the
file must be installed in the correct folder. Just to double-check, the
folder should be something like:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color

If the file is in there - perhaps the problem is that you need to quite
photoshop and re-enter it. If that doesn't do the trick, perhaps you could
explain in more detail where in Photoshop you are attempting to use the
profile.

> Do I have to find a way to modify the descriptive name from ICC to
> ICM?

No - either descriptive name will work.
--
Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

Gramps@oldtown.com

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 08:33:20 GMT, "Mike Russell"
<RE-MOVEmike@Curvemeister.comRE-MOVE> wrote:

><Gramps@oldtown.com> wrote in message
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>
>[re profile not showing up in Photoshop]
>
>From your statement that you associated the profiel with your printer, the
>file must be installed in the correct folder. Just to double-check, the
>folder should be something like:
>C:\WINDOWS\system32\spool\drivers\color
>
>If the file is in there - perhaps the problem is that you need to quite
>photoshop and re-enter it. If that doesn't do the trick, perhaps you could
>explain in more detail where in Photoshop you are attempting to use the
>profile.
>

I find the profile "SP2200 Canvas-Luster" when I go to "Print with
preview" and then "Printer Profile", but then I go to "Print" - "Epson
2200" - "Properties" the second pull-down on the left "media type"
doesn't show the profile media type "Canvas-Luster". I only get to
select from what appears to be 7 standard Epson media types (Plain
paper, Premium Luster, Premium Gloss, etc).

>
>No - either descriptive name will work.

Thanks for you assistance.
G

Bill Hilton

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

> Gramps@oldtown.com wrote:
>
> I find the profile "SP2200 Canvas-Luster" when I go to "Print with
> preview" and then "Printer Profile", but then I go to "Print" - "Epson
> 2200" - "Properties" the second pull-down on the left "media type"
> doesn't show the profile media type "Canvas-Luster". I only get to
> select from what appears to be 7 standard Epson media types (Plain
> paper, Premium Luster, Premium Gloss, etc).

These "media types" are just the papers supported ... adding an ICC
profile does nothing to change this list, so it's working as designed.

Typically when this happens (paper not directly supported on the drop
down) there are instructions with the paper (or on the web site) that
tell you to substitute one of the other paper types for it ... this
controls the dot gain, by the way ... the ICC profile simply tells the
program how to best change the RGB values so you get the best match for
color.

So check with Epson and see what paper type setting they recommend for
"Canvas-Luster".

Bill

Mike Russell

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

"Bill Hilton" <bhilton665@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> These "media types" are just the papers supported ... adding an ICC
> profile does nothing to change this list, so it's working as designed.
>
> Typically when this happens (paper not directly supported on the drop
> down) there are instructions with the paper (or on the web site) that
> tell you to substitute one of the other paper types for it ... this
> controls the dot gain, by the way ... the ICC profile simply tells the
> program how to best change the RGB values so you get the best match for
> color.
>
> So check with Epson and see what paper type setting they recommend for
> "Canvas-Luster".
> Bill Hilton

Good advice. The paper names are built-in to the driver, and control the
overall amount of ink hitting the page.

I would add that to activate your profile, burrow down to the advanced
options in the Epson Printer Preferences, and select "ICM" for the Color
Management. This tells the Epson driver to use the printer profile that you
set up in the Color Management tab.

For the paper setting, if Epson is not forthcoming about documenting which
paper setting to use, try printing the test image from www.InkJetArt.com
http://inkjetart.com/custom_profiles/DensityEpson.zip - you should be able
to distinguish the second and third darkest squares, and just see all of the
plusses.
--
Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

Roy G

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

"Mike Russell" <RE-MOVEmike@Curvemeister.comRE-MOVE> wrote in message
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> "Bill Hilton" <bhilton665@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1167333288.766250.35300@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Good advice. The paper names are built-in to the driver, and control the
> overall amount of ink hitting the page.
>
> I would add that to activate your profile, burrow down to the advanced
> options in the Epson Printer Preferences, and select "ICM" for the Color
> Management. This tells the Epson driver to use the printer profile that
> you set up in the Color Management tab.
>
> For the paper setting, if Epson is not forthcoming about documenting which
> paper setting to use, try printing the test image from www.InkJetArt.com
> http://inkjetart.com/custom_profiles/DensityEpson.zip - you should be able
> to distinguish the second and third darkest squares, and just see all of
> the plusses.
> --
> Mike Russell
> www.curvemeister.com/forum/
>
Hi Mike.

Did you notice that he had already stated
[color=darkred]

which I think means he is selecting the Print Profile in Ps "Print with
Preview" , and I presume that he will also be selecting let Photoshop Colour
Manage.

If he is doing that he must ensure that the Epson Driver is set to "No
Colour Adjustment".

Roy G

Mike Russell

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

"Roy G" <roy.gibson1@REMOVE.tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "Mike Russell" <RE-MOVEmike@Curvemeister.comRE-MOVE> wrote in message
> news:zSVkh.4064$sR.2161@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> Hi Mike.
>
> Did you notice that he had already stated
>
>
> which I think means he is selecting the Print Profile in Ps "Print with
> Preview" , and I presume that he will also be selecting let Photoshop
> Colour Manage.
>
> If he is doing that he must ensure that the Epson Driver is set to "No
> Colour Adjustment".

Right you are, Roy. Thanks for spotting this.

--

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/

Gramps@oldtown.com

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:57:12 GMT, "Roy G"
<roy.gibson1@REMOVE.tesco.net> wrote:

>
>"Mike Russell" <RE-MOVEmike@Curvemeister.comRE-MOVE> wrote in message
>news:zSVkh.4064$sR.2161@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
>Hi Mike.
>
>Did you notice that he had already stated
>
>
> which I think means he is selecting the Print Profile in Ps "Print with
>Preview" , and I presume that he will also be selecting let Photoshop Colour
>Manage.
>
>If he is doing that he must ensure that the Epson Driver is set to "No
>Colour Adjustment".
>
>Roy G
>

I want to thank everyone for the help. I was sure it was something
simple or a short between my headset ear pieces.

I was hoping that there was some way to add different media types to
the drop-down, as making the correct choice affects the time required
for drying and color "brightness" as mentioned above.

In a past test I experimented using different supported media types on
several different canvas products on my Epson 2200, but I didn't try
all media types with all of the products (if anyone is interested, I
can post my test results). I was again hoping to get out easy on my
next go at testing.

Thanks again; I have chosen no color adjustment in ICM.

Have a safe & happy New Year
G