Computer Graphics with Photoshop

Author

My Pics

zonker

2007-01-10, 6:19 pm

Trying to get some input on my pictures and art created in photoshop.

I have them posted on my blog and would really like some input.

http://2000ah.blogspot.com/

Peace

Roy G

2007-01-10, 6:19 pm

What Pics?????

not a dumb dhimmi

2007-01-10, 6:19 pm

"Roy G" <roy.gibson1@REMOVE.tesco.net> wrote in message
news:uzijh.22990$z01.14669@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>
> What Pics?????

what pictures?
the moons? pretty but trite
the kids football? over exposed
the Crusaders? overlit, needs longer lens

just a lot of words to promote Islam as good
(we will know them by their fruits and so far that has been suiciders and
terrorists)

kids painted to worship the moon Ailaliah the meteor god-in-a-rock in the
Kabaa?
very Christamas-y
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/

taqiyya- Americans need to see and learn, Jihadi show is here in your
town....

If Islam is so wonderful why do you live in the USA? why not live under
Sharia in an Islamic country??
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691391/posts
The same imam who demanded that the men continue in the path of jihad did a
complete 180-degree turn in this session, stressing instead the suras that
promoted the "brotherhood" between Muslims, Christians and Jews. "After all,
we worship the same God, and follow the teachings in the books he gave each
of us. We are all the same, we are all People of the Book," he stressed.

The differences between the sessions were striking. Clearly the second
session was a recruiting session.

Were the women aware of what was being taught in the first session?
Certainly those women who spoke Arabic should have been.

The reason for concern is obvious: Two different doctrines are being
promoted. One peaceful, friendly, warm and fuzzy doctrine is being used to
draw people in, with a focus on the wellbeing of their children.

But the Arabic-speaking sessions clearly have an anti-American tone.

It shows clearly that as much as we'd like to pretend it hasn't, jihad has
reached Small-Town, USA. This mosque isn't in Washington, D.C., or New York
City. This is a small mosque in a small town in the deep South.

And if it's in this tiny little quiet southern town, it's probably in your
hometown, too.

This is our message to the hanif, whose intention we cannot discern:

If you are true of faith, be aware. The truth of your god and prophet's
intentions are known to us, and for those who are unaware we will make them
aware. However if you, in spite of your god's own commandments, are pure of
heart and intention, we call on you to reject your faith, realize the true
motives of your "prophet", and recognize that the god he created is but a
means to an end, that that end is only to loot and plunder riches, to
exploit and rape women, to punish those who dare oppose, and to acquire
dominion over all.

Americans will not be your slaves.

http://www.belowtopsecret.com/thread94962/pg1
http://www.westernresistance.com/bl...ves/002759.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1362038/posts
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908746.html
http://www.hoover.org/publications/...ew/3438276.html
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

For those few who don't know, the notorious CAIR was founded with terrorist
seed money and it receives strong financial support from Wahhabis, the most
violent and extreme of major Muslim sects. CAIR has even had its own
leaders and members accused and convicted of supporting terrorism. It has
gone to bat for people like Sami al-Araian and other well-known sponsors of
Islamic terror. It also refuses to acknowledge and denounce more than 99%
of all deadly Islamic attacks.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Dhimwits.htm

The truth about Islam

I know not what course others may take; but as for me -- give me
liberty or give me death!~Patrick Henry
In the name of Justice and Freedom; in defiance of tyranny, despotism,
cruelty, intolerance, hate, persecution and inequality; in the hope of
prosperity and peace if not for us for our children and children's children;
in defense of the land who's Founders established a beacon of hope for the
oppressed.

For 1400 years the lands of Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism,
and all other manners of worship have been under seige by followers of
Muhammad, the terrorist, the pirate, the rapist, the pedophile. Throughout
this time, anywhere Islam and other religions have come together the record
of peaceful co-existence is far outweighed by the record of human
catastrophe. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence, not just in the
actions of Moslems throughout history, but in their own scriptures which
teach us their violence and hate are sanctioned by none other than All?h
Himself, we have slept through this storm as it approached us. Though over
the horizon the lightning struck and the thunder rumbled, we closed our eyes
and covered our ears and left our house unprotected.

This is our message to the kafir, who wishes to protect his
birthright, and remain free:

On September 11 our house met the full front of that storm and we are
now faced with the startling reality that this war did not begin on that
black Tuesday morning but has been ongoing since the angel Jibrael
supposedly appeared to Muhammad with the call to prophecy.

No one can argue today these three facts that are called for by All?h
and etched forever in the pages of history; we will list them as a reminder:

First, God All?h commands that Muslims fight in His cause (jih?d)
until only He is worshipped. What is jih?d? Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hal?l?
and Muhammad Muhsin Kh?n add the following footnote to verse [002.190] of
the Qur'?n:
Al-Jih?d (holy fighting) in All?h?s Cause (with full force of
numbers and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of
its pillars (on which it stands). By Jih?d Islam is established, All?h?s
Word is made superior (His Word being L? ilaha illall?h which means none has
the right to be worshipped but All?h), and His religion (Islam) is
propagated. By abandoning Jih?d (may All?h protect us from that) Islam is
destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is
lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jih?d is an
obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from
this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfill this duty,
dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.
The Qur'?n teaches us:
[002:193] And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief
and worshipping of others along with All?h) and (all and every kind of)
worship is for All?h (alone).
[003:151-152] We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who
disbelieve, because they joined others in worship with All?h, for which He
had sent no authority; their abode will be the Fire, and evil is the abode
of the unjust. And All?h did indeed fulfil His Promise to you when you were
killing them (your enemy) by His permission.
[004:101] Surely the disbelievers are ever unto you open enemies.
[005:033-034] The recompense of those who wage war against All?h and
His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only that they
shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on
opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this
world, and a great torment is theirs in the hereafter. Except for those who
(having fled away and then) came back (as Muslims) with repentence before
they fall into your power; in that case, know that All?h is Oft-Forgiving,
Most Merciful.
[005:051] O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as
Auliy?' (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliy?' of each other.
And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliy?'), then surely, he is one of
them. Verily, All?h guides not those people who are Z?lim?n (unjust).
[008:012-013] (Remember) when your Lord revealed to the angels,
"Verily, I am with you, so keep firm those who have believed. I will cast
terror into the hearts of those who have disbelieved, so strike off their
heads and strike off all their fingertips and toes. This is because they
defied and disobeyed All?h and His Messenger. And whoever defies and
disobeys All?h and His Messenger, then verily, All?h is severe in
punishment.
[009:005] Then when the sacred months have past, then kill the
Mushrik?n (idolators, polytheists, disbelievers in the Oneness of All?h,
pagans) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie
in wait for them in every ambush. But if they repent, and establish regular
prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them. Verily
All?h is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
[009:014] Fight them, All?h will punish them by your hands and bring
them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a
believing people.
[009:073] O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the
hypocrites! Be harsh with them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the
destination.
All?h looks down upon Muslims who are able to fight in jih?d but do
not:
[009.038-39] O you who believe! What is the matter with you, that
when you are asked to march forth in the cause of All?h (Jih?d) you cling
heavily to the earth? Are you pleased with the life of this world rather
than the Hereafter? But little is the enjoyment of the life of this world
compared to the Hereafter. If you march not forth, He will punish you with a
painful torment and will replace you by another people.
[009.041] March forth, whether you are light (being healthy, young
and wealthy) or heavy (being ill, old and poor), and strive hard with your
wealth and your lives in the Cause of All?h. This is better for you, if you
but knew.
[009:081] Those who were left behind rejoiced at sitting still
behind the Messenger of All?h; they hated to strive and fight with their
properties and their lives in the cause of All?h, and they said: Go not
forth in the heat! Say: "The fire of hell is more intense in heat"; if only
they could understand!
[008:015-016] O you who believe! When you meet those who disbelieve
in a battlefield, never turn your backs to (flee from) them. And whoever
turns his back to them on such a day-- unless it be a stratagem of war, or
to retreat to a troop (of his own)-- he indeed has drawn upon himself wrath
from All?h's. And his abode is hell, and worst indeed is that destination!
There can be no peaceful co-existance with an ideology that commands
that unbelievers must be killed or taken captive unless they convert.
Muslims may not make friends of unbelievers. Therefore how can we welcome
them into our society? Islam also teaches us that in order to achieve
victory in jih?d, Muslims may lie and swear false oaths that they have no
intent of keeping. The tactic is known as taquiya, or takeyya [1], the
Islamic principle of lying for the sake of Allah. It is written:
[002:225] All?h does not call you to account for what is vain in
your oaths, but He will call you to account for what your hearts have
earned, and All?h is Forgiving, Forbearing.
[003:028] Let not the believers take the unbelievers as Auliy?'
(supporters, helpers) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will
never be helped by All?h in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from
them.
[021:052-063] When he (Abraham) said to his father and his people:
What are these images to whose worship you cleave? They said: We found our
fathers worshipping them. He said: Certainly you have been, (both) you and
your fathers, in manifest error. They said: Have you brought to us the
truth, or are you one of the triflers? He said: Nay! your Lord is the Lord
of the heavens and the earth, Who brought them into existence, and I am of
those who bear witness to this: And, by Allah! I will certainly do something
against your idols after you go away, turning back. So he broke them into
pieces, except the chief of them, that haply they may return to it. They
said: Who has done this to our gods? Most surely he is one of the unjust.
They said: We heard a youth make mention of them, who is called Abraham.
Said they: Then bring him before the eyes of the people, perhaps they may
bear witness. They said: Is it thou who hast done this to our gods, O
Abraham? He said: "Nay, their chief hath done it. So question them, if they
can speak."
[Sirat Rasul All?h(p 365)]*: "Then he composed amatory verses of an
insulting nature about the Muslim women. The apostle said - according to
what Abdullah Burda told me, - "Who will rid me of Ibnu'l-Ashraf?" Maslama
said, "I will deal with him for you, O apostle of God, I will kill him." He
said, "Do so if you can." So Maslama returned and waited for three days
without food or drink, apart from what was absolutely necessary. When the
apostle was told of this he summoned him and asked him why he had given up
eating and drinking. He replied that he had given him an undertaking and he
did not know whether he could fulfill it. The apostle said, "All that is
incumbent upon you is that you should try." He said, "O apostle of god, we
shall have to tell lies." He answered, "Say what you like, for you are free
in the matter."
*by Ibn Ishaq, the earliest known biographer of the Prophet Muhammad
How can we trust Muslim members of our society who have a divine
mandate to decieve and lie in order to subdue their enemies into a false
sense of security, especially when their religion teaches us that such
friendships are forbidden? How can we know where their true allegiance
really lies? This lesson is taught to us through the example of the
September 11 hijackers, who shaved their beards, wore jewelry, gambled and
consumed alcohol in order to appear less Islamic.

Second, Muslims, whenever they have been able, have never refrained
from spirited adherance to these commandments from God. That is because
there is no room for interpretation on what these commandments mean or their
significance. They come from All?h the Most High, and anyone who denies even
a single verse in the Qur'an is considered an apostate; Muhammad has decreed
that apostasy be punished by death. Therefore there can be no negotiation
with such an enemy, no compromise, since to ask a Muslim to do so is to ask
him to disobey his god, and invite upon himself humiliation, pain, and death
in this life and horrible torment in the hellfire.

Third, Islamic encroachment on our society is a threat to the liberty
we have enjoyed for two and a quarter centuries and scores of millions of
Americans have shed their blood to protect. Those who are allowed to live by
the Muslim conquerer would be subject to oppression and humiliation. Life
would be granted only for the purpose of income for their masters through
payment of the jizya. Our women will become second-class citizens subject to
violence by their "husbands". Muslims have a mandate from God to rape women
who've they've taken slaves, and commit acts of pedophilia as mandated by
the prophet's own example in the hadith. It is written:
[009:029] Fight against those who (1) believe not in All?h, (2) nor
in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which hath been forbidden by All?h and
His Messenger, (4) nor acknowledge the religion of Truth (Islam), (even if
they are) of the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they
pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
[004:034] Men are in charge of women, because All?h hath made the
one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property
(for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in
secret that which All?h hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear
rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge (beat)
them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! All?h is ever
High, Exalted, Great.
[038:044] And (it was said unto him): Take in thine hand a branch
and smite (her) therewith, and break not thine oath.
[004:024] Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those
(slaves) whom your right hands possess. Thus has All?h ordained for you.
[Sahih al Bukhari 7:62:64] Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married
her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was
nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till
his death).
These words give us pause because they are the commandments to all
Muslims by their god, and the enlightened path as set forth by the example
of his prophet, who was unerring. The word of God (the Qur'?n) and the
examples of His messanger (the hadith) are tought today in America, and are
a call to arms by America's enemies, both from without and from within:
'As for the second question that we want to answer: What are we
calling you (America) to, and what do we want from you?

(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam...the
religion of Jih?d in the way of All?h so that All?h's Word and religion
reign Supreme.' ~Osama bin Laden (al Qaeda)[2]
And:
'We will replace the Bible with the Koran.'~Sheikh Omar Bakri
Mohamed (al-Muhajiroun, UK)[3]
And:
'We are ALL supporters of Hamas. Allahu Akhbar!'~Abdurahman Alamoudi
(American Muslim Council) [4]
On that basis, in the interests of the survival of our great Republic,
we issue the following fatwa to all who solemnly pledge allegiance to the
United States of America:

With respect to Muslims who are already citizens of the United States:

Because the Constitution protects its citizens from government
intervention in manners of worship, there is little that can be done legally
to curb their activities, except to keep a watchful eye. The government must
reserve the right to infiltrate and observe Islamic groups, particularly
mosques, especially since many of these institutions were established and
influenced by Saudi Arabia, the epicenter for Islamic fundamentalism
(Wahhabism) in the world. Those Americans found in collaboration with
international terror groups must at the very least have their citizenship
revoked and be deported.

The average American, armed with this knowledge, must abide by the
adage that we must keep our friends close and our enemies closer. Therefore
do not turn your backs on Muslims. Do not resist their friendship. Do not
provoke or carry out acts of hate against them. However, all the while, keep
in mind what you know about the god they worship and the man they believe
was his messanger. In all possible instances the truth about Islam must be
pointed out to them, even if it invites scorn upon yourself.

In an age of religious tolerance for Islam and the whitewashing of
Islamic scripture and attrocities attributed to it, those of us with
knowledge of Islam who commit ourselves to defeat its jihad must be prepared
to be villified for speaking the truth. The politically-correct will label
you unpleasant names, such as racist and bigot. You will be largely ignored
save for the interested few who, like ourselves, are reluctant to take
conventional wisdom at face value.

With respect to potential Muslim visitors and immigrants:

The flow of Islamic immigrants from abroad, especially but not limited
to totalitarian Islamic states where fundamental Islam is enforced and
violent anti-Westernism is preached, must be dammed. We must recognize the
fact that by our very nature we are enemies of Islam and there is nothing
that can be done to rectify this.

The only way to force Islam into an examination of itself is to
deprive it of its influence. Their revenues--which are almost exclusively
limited to petrolium--must be cut off. Alternative sources of oil or energy
technologies must be cultivated so that the Muslim world may be severed from
influence of any kind. Without oil, which is not merely a source of revenue
but a weapon of economic and political warfare, Islam will have no choice
but to re-examine its worth, as the inevitable suffering of the Muslim
people will leave them with the inescapable conclusion that either God has
forsaken them or that they were wrong about God all along. The latter
conclusion would be preferable, since, knowing what is written in the Qur'an
and Who its supposed source is (God), there is no logical reason to conclude
that there will ever be a peaceful co-existance between the Umma and the
infidel so long as Islam exists. Either Islam must go the way of Egyptian,
Greek, and Roman mythology, or the infidels will either die, convert, or
subject themselves to dhimmi ("protected") status and abject oppression and
humiliation.

This is our message to the hanif, whose intention we cannot discern:

If you are true of faith, be aware. The truth of your god and
prophet's intentions are known to us, and for those who are unaware we will
make them aware. However if you, in spite of your god's own commandments,
are pure of heart and intention, we call on you to reject your faith,
realize the true motives of your "prophet", and recognize that the god he
created is but a means to an end, that that end is only to loot and plunder
riches, to exploit and rape women, to punish those who dare oppose, and to
acquire dominion over all.

Americans will not be your slaves.

**NOTE** All Qur'?nic verses are linked to the University of Souther
California's online Qur'?n. However, the translations I've used here are
taken from Interpretation of the Meanings of the Noble Qur'?n In the English
Language by Dr Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hal?l? and Dr Muhammad Muhsin Kh?n of
the Islamic University in Medina, Saudi Arabia. Many of their
interpretation's vary from online translations.

This document can also be found here for future reference.

copyright

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691391/posts
The same imam who demanded that the men continue in the path of
jihad did a complete 180-degree turn in this session, stressing instead the
suras that promoted the "brotherhood" between Muslims, Christians and Jews.
"After all, we worship the same God, and follow the teachings in the books
he gave each of us. We are all the same, we are all People of the Book," he
stressed.

The differences between the sessions were striking. Clearly the
second session was a recruiting session.

Were the women aware of what was being taught in the first
session? Certainly those women who spoke Arabic should have been.

The reason for concern is obvious: Two different doctrines are
being promoted. One peaceful, friendly, warm and fuzzy doctrine is being
used to draw people in, with a focus on the wellbeing of their children.

But the Arabic-speaking sessions clearly have an anti-American
tone.

It shows clearly that as much as we'd like to pretend it hasn't,
jihad has reached Small-Town, USA. This mosque isn't in Washington, D.C., or
New York City. This is a small mosque in a small town in the deep South.

And if it's in this tiny little quiet southern town, it's
probably in your hometown, too.

Box #2: Questions for a Friend
Adapted from an article by Pipes that ran in the Jerusalem Post
on November 26, 2003:

If militant Islam is the problem and moderate Islam is the
solution, as I often argue, how does one differentiate between these two
forms of Islam?

It is often useful to ask questions. Such questions might
include:

Violence: Do you condone or condemn the Palestinians,
Chechens, and Kashmiris who give up their lives to kill enemy civilians?
Will you condemn by name as terrorist groups such organizations as Abu
Sayyaf, Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, Group Islamique Armée, Hamas, Harakat,
ul-Mujahidin, Hizbullah, Islamic Jihad, Jaish e-Mohammed, Lashkar-e-Tayyiba,
and al-Qaida?

Modernity: Should Muslim women have equal rights with men (for
example, in inheritance shares or court testimony)? Is jihad, meaning a form
of warfare, acceptable in today's world? Do you accept the validity of other
religions? Do Muslims have anything to learn from the West?

Secularism: Should non-Muslims enjoy completely equal civil
rights with Muslims? May Muslims convert to other religions? May Muslim
women marry non-Muslim men? Do you accept the laws of a majority non-Muslim
government and unreservedly pledge allegiance to that government? Should the
state impose religious observance, such as banning food service during
Ramadan? When Islamic customs conflict with secular laws.which should give
way?

Islamic Pluralism: Are Sufis and Shi'ites fully legitimate
Muslims? Do you see Muslims who disagree with you as having fallen into
unbelief? Is takfir (condemning fellow Muslims with whom one has
disagreements as unbelievers) an acceptable practice?

Self-criticism: Do you accept the legitimacy of scholarly
inquiry into the origins of Islam? Who was responsible for the 9/11 suicide
hijackings?

Defense against militant Islam: Do you accept enhanced
security measures to fight militant Islam, even if this means extra scrutiny
of yourself? Do you agree that institutions accused of funding terrorism
should be shut down?

Goals in the West: Do you accept that Western countries are
majority-Christian and secular or do you seek to transform them into
majority-Muslim countries ruled by Islamic law?

These questions offer a good start to the vexing issue of
separating enemy from friend.

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2300

http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/

Bob Williams

2007-01-10, 6:19 pm

zonker wrote:

> Trying to get some input on my pictures and art created in photoshop.
>
> I have them posted on my blog and would really like some input.
>
> http://2000ah.blogspot.com/
>
> Peace
>

Reminds me of the great Black Monolith worshiped by primitive man in
Stanley Kubrick's epic film, "2001 Space Odyssey".
Sometimes I wonder how much progress, much of mankind has made.
Bob Williams

zonker

2007-01-10, 6:19 pm

not a dumb dhimmi wrote:
> "Roy G" <roy.gibson1@REMOVE.tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:uzijh.22990$z01.14669@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>
>
>
>
> what pictures?
> the moons? pretty but trite
> the kids football? over exposed
> the Crusaders? overlit, needs longer lens
>
Hmmm perhaps i would take your critism of the pictures seriously if you
did not follow it with a hatefilled xenophobic rant.

peace
Zonker

http://2000ah.blogspot.com/

KatWoman

2007-01-10, 6:19 pm

"Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
news:qJ3kh.50110$0D2.7053@newsfe15.phx...
>
>
> zonker wrote:
>
>
>
> Reminds me of the great Black Monolith worshiped by primitive man in
> Stanley Kubrick's epic film, "2001 Space Odyssey".
> Sometimes I wonder how much progress, much of mankind has made.
> Bob Williams
>

bob maybe we are DEVO (de-evolution) LOL (remember them??)

can't find any link to pictures Zonker
so can't give any input
just see a blog and links about Islam, some snapshots of children?
the Photoshop part is just links to other peoples sites, no photos, no
digital art?

got a direct link to you pictures??
Got any photos of Hajj? have you made a Hajj?

I saw a TV show about that Kabaa rock (discovery? learning channel? history?
or travel network?)
it says it is a meteor
and before Mohammed, the people worshipped the moon God Ail_laylah (crescent
symbol)
so they thought God sent it to them
it's in Mecca
sounds like idol worship to me, kissing the black rock

but whatever it's a free country
for Muslims and Muslim haters alike, that is America (or the West or the
internet), you can say crazy stuff and not get arrested or worse

NG attracts all kinds: some nice, helpful and polite and some trolls,
bothersome, nasty or jerkoffs which rhymes with.....NO! don't say the name,
just use the "block sender" feature liberally and you'll be OK

zonker

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

KatWoman wrote:
> "Bob Williams" <mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:qJ3kh.50110$0D2.7053@newsfe15.phx...
>
> bob maybe we are DEVO (de-evolution) LOL (remember them??)
>
>
> can't find any link to pictures Zonker
> so can't give any input
> just see a blog and links about Islam, some snapshots of children?
> the Photoshop part is just links to other peoples sites, no photos, no
> digital art?

There are a tons of pictures and digital art on my blog have no idea
why you are unable to see it.
>
> got a direct link to you pictures??
http://2000ah.blogspot.com/

> Got any photos of Hajj? have you made a Hajj?
>
http://2000ah.blogspot.com/

> I saw a TV show about that Kabaa rock (discovery? learning channel? history?
> or travel network?)
> it says it is a meteor
> and before Mohammed, the people worshipped the moon God Ail_laylah (crescent
> symbol)
The Moon God of the Arabs was named Sin, well documented fact.

> so they thought God sent it to them
> it's in Mecca
Allah gave the rock to Abraham.
> sounds like idol worship to me, kissing the black rock
There are many Muslim Groups,We only look monolithic from the outside,
that say the same about kissing the stone.
>
> but whatever it's a free country
> for Muslims and Muslim haters alike, that is America (or the West or the
> internet), you can say crazy stuff and not get arrested or worse
>
> NG attracts all kinds: some nice, helpful and polite and some trolls,
> bothersome, nasty or jerkoffs which rhymes with.....NO! don't say the name,
> just use the "block sender" feature liberally and you'll be OK

Harry Limey

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

"zonker" <rahman70810@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message
>
> There are a tons of pictures and digital art on my blog have no idea
> why you are unable to see it.
> http://2000ah.blogspot.com/

I see the same as Katwoman, some snapshots of kids, and some poorly done
Photoshop work! Personally I would not post any of it on a website let alone
draw attention to it, especially on here, a newsgroup frequented by some
genuinely talented people!
Some of the planet graphics are reasonable but nothing to get excited about!

Roy G

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

"zonker" <rahman70810@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message
news:1167343494.360633.170050@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>
> KatWoman wrote:

I still can not see any photographs.

Tons of Text - No photos.

Roy G

ST.D.AL

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:57:12 GMT, Roy G in comp.graphics.apps.photoshop wrote:

>"zonker" <rahman70810@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message
>news:1167343494.360633.170050@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
[color=darkred]
>I still can not see any photographs.

>Tons of Text - No photos.

Perhaps because you have your browser set up to only show images from
the web site you're actually viewing?

Most of the images on that page, with the exception of the Youtube video
are scrapped from;
http://bp2.blogger.com/ not the same domain as the website
http://2000ah.blogspot.com/. He/she is a rookie.

Believe me, you're not missing much, as the images are rather
"pedestrian" and there is an Islamic video <yawn>.

Roy G

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

"ST.D.AL" <marathon@linux.ca.invalid> wrote in message
news:kb0g64-sr9.ln1@bell.ca...
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:57:12 GMT, Roy G in comp.graphics.apps.photoshop
> wrote:
>
>
> Believe me, you're not missing much, as the images are rather
> "pedestrian" >

Hi.

Somehow that does not surprise me.

Perhaps he gets brownie points, or a free orange juice from the Mosque for
every "Click" on his website.

Roy G

ST.D.AL

2007-01-10, 6:20 pm

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 00:10:42 GMT, Roy G in comp.graphics.apps.photoshop wrote:

>"ST.D.AL" <marathon@linux.ca.invalid> wrote in message
>news:kb0g64-sr9.ln1@bell.ca...

[color=darkred]
>Hi.

>Somehow that does not surprise me.

>Perhaps he gets brownie points, or a free orange juice from the Mosque for
>every "Click" on his website.

I sincerely didn't mean to slight anything Islamic, with the mention of
the video. I'm not a phobic, I was merely pointing out what the content
was, since you couldn't view it.

Besides, this is the season for _all_ Abraham's faiths to celebrate.