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BD

2006-09-24, 6:15 pm

Hey, all.

I recently pulled a bunch of RAWs from my camera, made the adjustments
I needed, and then saved them as 16bpp TIFF.

I then exited PS, and went to browse the images with an older version
of ACDSee. The saturation in the images was way off. It was so bad I
had to go back into PS, and increase the saturation to +30 so that it
would look 'normal' when viewing outside of PS.

I'd like to not have to do this, but I'm not clear on what would be
causing this discrepancy. I have not made use of any color profiles for
anything, so I would *think* that PS would behave the same as any other
app, in terms of the colors that it displays.

Can someone suggest what might be at work here?

Thanks for all suggestions...

BD

Roy G

2006-09-24, 6:15 pm


"BD" <robert.drea@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message
news:1158607589.050993.48000@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Hey, all.
>
> I recently pulled a bunch of RAWs from my camera, made the adjustments
> I needed, and then saved them as 16bpp TIFF.
>
> I then exited PS, and went to browse the images with an older version
> of ACDSee. The saturation in the images was way off. It was so bad I
> had to go back into PS, and increase the saturation to +30 so that it
> would look 'normal' when viewing outside of PS.
>
> I'd like to not have to do this, but I'm not clear on what would be
> causing this discrepancy. I have not made use of any color profiles for
> anything, so I would *think* that PS would behave the same as any other
> app, in terms of the colors that it displays.
>
> Can someone suggest what might be at work here?
>
> Thanks for all suggestions...
>
> BD


Hi.

Elementary, my dear BD.

Ps uses Colour Management, AcDSee does not.

The files will have been Tagged with the Adobe RGB Profile, which means that
when viewed in any non Colour Managed Viewer, they will show up as
undersaturated.

Open them in Ps, Edit > Convert Profile and choose sRGB, then save and
close.

When making the conversions from RAW ensure that the profile selected is
sRGB.

If you intend printing them on your own Inkjet, you would get a bit better
range of colours (Gamut) if you kept them as Adobe RGB and used Colour
Management while printing.


BD

2006-09-24, 6:15 pm

> Elementary, my dear BD.

Yes, I just had a discussion with a co-worker about it, and we arrived
at the same conclusion.

I'll have to educate myself on such stuff... Ideally I'd like the
saturation of the images to not be dependent on what application is
viewing them. Hopefully the conversion to sRGB will assist in that
regard. I'll find out tonight! ;-)

Thanks!

Jim

2006-09-24, 6:15 pm


"BD" <robert.drea@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, I just had a discussion with a co-worker about it, and we arrived
> at the same conclusion.
>
> I'll have to educate myself on such stuff... Ideally I'd like the
> saturation of the images to not be dependent on what application is
> viewing them. Hopefully the conversion to sRGB will assist in that
> regard. I'll find out tonight! ;-)
>
> Thanks!
>

That isn't possible. So many programs are not color managed; with these it
is pot luck at getting good colors. As PS is color managed (and that is one
of its strengths), it would seem that you should always view your images in
PS.

Jim


BD

2006-09-24, 6:15 pm

> would seem that you should always view your images in PS.

So... if someone is doing work for another person (say contract work,
for example), and isn't sure whether the recipient will be viewing the
images in Photoshop or some other app, what's the best strategy? Seems
to me I should make the color profile of the images as 'ubiquitous' or
generic as possible, so I would want to remove any profiling which will
impose a dependence on viewing the images in PS.

Mike Russell

2006-09-24, 6:15 pm

"BD" <robert.drea@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message
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>
> So... if someone is doing work for another person (say contract work,
> for example), and isn't sure whether the recipient will be viewing the
> images in Photoshop or some other app, what's the best strategy? Seems
> to me I should make the color profile of the images as 'ubiquitous' or
> generic as possible, so I would want to remove any profiling which will
> impose a dependence on viewing the images in PS.


One good solution is not to use Adobe RGB. Distribute all your external RGB
images as sRGB.
--
Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com/forum/


Roy G

2006-09-24, 6:15 pm


"BD" <robert.drea@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message
news:1158618783.656860.249530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> So... if someone is doing work for another person (say contract work,
> for example), and isn't sure whether the recipient will be viewing the
> images in Photoshop or some other app, what's the best strategy? Seems
> to me I should make the color profile of the images as 'ubiquitous' or
> generic as possible, so I would want to remove any profiling which will
> impose a dependence on viewing the images in PS.
>


Hi again.

The whole point of Colour Management, is to ensure that when images are
passed from one C.M computer system to another CM System, the colours shown
on screen, or printed out, will be the same.

With non CM systems the colours can, and do, vary quite considerably. Just
have a look at the colours being shown on screens in any large Computer
Store.

Roy G


BD

2006-09-24, 6:15 pm

> One good solution is not to use Adobe RGB. Distribute all your external RGB
> images as sRGB.


Yes, this seems to have worked fine. After figuring out (finally, for
the first time) how to record actions, I flipped the color space of all
the relevant images. They look waaaay better now. ;)

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