Computer Graphics with Photoshop - *!FLASH!* and then...

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*!FLASH!* and then...

philip.kluss@gmail.com

2006-07-10, 6:17 pm

I'm not sure that this is the appropriate newsgroup to post this to,
but it should be apparent why I chose it after reading about my
problem.

I have a user that does work in Photoshop and has been having a problem
where he is using the lasso tool [sometimes for up to an hour(!) before
connecting the end points and cutting out whatever he's lassoed.] and
the monitor will flash and it will automatically connect the endpoints.
I don't really know what to blame. I can't really blame the monitor
because although it has the ability to flash, it is simply an output
device and thus couldn't connect the endpoints on the lasso.

I've already suggested he stop the marathon lasso sessions and do it in
more manageable chunks, but he assures me it affects the quality of the
final product to do it in a piecewise fashion.

Has anyone else experienced this or perhaps have any ideas?

Thanks.

-pk

Jason

2006-07-10, 6:17 pm

In article <1150395876.414653.93110@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
philip.kluss@XXXXXXXXXX says...
> I'm not sure that this is the appropriate newsgroup to post this to,
> but it should be apparent why I chose it after reading about my
> problem.
>
> I have a user that does work in Photoshop and has been having a problem
> where he is using the lasso tool [sometimes for up to an hour(!) before
> connecting the end points and cutting out whatever he's lassoed.] and
> the monitor will flash and it will automatically connect the endpoints.
> I don't really know what to blame. I can't really blame the monitor
> because although it has the ability to flash, it is simply an output
> device and thus couldn't connect the endpoints on the lasso.
>
> I've already suggested he stop the marathon lasso sessions and do it in
> more manageable chunks, but he assures me it affects the quality of the
> final product to do it in a piecewise fashion.
>
> Has anyone else experienced this or perhaps have any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -pk
>
>
I agree - it's not the monitor... I wonder if there's a limit to the
number of points you can specify before some buffer fills up and PS
decides that the only course of action is to close the selection. I
expect there is.
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2006-07-10, 6:17 pm

philip.kluss@XXXXXXXXXX says...

> I've already suggested he stop the marathon lasso sessions and do it in
> more manageable chunks, but he assures me it affects the quality of the
> final product to do it in a piecewise fashion.

That's just plain wrong. Besides, chances are very good that he doesn't
need to use the lasso (or other click-click tool).

philip.kluss@gmail.com

2006-07-10, 6:17 pm

2,

I would tend to agree with you, but I don't have a background in
graphic design so there's not a whole lot of weight behind what I tell
him in that respect. That's fine though, it's his time, not mine.
He's extremely anal when it comes to cropping images. He'll blow them
up to 100000% [hyperbole] and go for days. It's ridiculous, but I
can't change that.

I didn't think about the buffer size in Photoshop, but I'll definitely
look into it. Thanks for that suggestion, and I'll let you know how it
goes.

-pk
2 wrote:
> philip.kluss@XXXXXXXXXX says...
>
>
> That's just plain wrong. Besides, chances are very good that he doesn't
> need to use the lasso (or other click-click tool).

tacit

2006-07-10, 6:17 pm

In article <1150395876.414653.93110@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
philip.kluss@XXXXXXXXXX wrote:

> I've already suggested he stop the marathon lasso sessions and do it in
> more manageable chunks, but he assures me it affects the quality of the
> final product to do it in a piecewise fashion.

First of all, doing it in pieces in no way afects the quality of the
selection. That's rubbish; he sounds like he has some strange
superstitions about Photoshop.

Now, if you are using the Lasso tool and some other program comes to the
front, or some other program opens a modal dialog window, or in some
instance some other program launches or otherwise takes focus away from
Photoshop, then when Photoshop switches to the background, the Lasso
closes. This happens any time Photoshop switches from the foreground to
the background.

When the screen flashes, my bet is that it has nothing to do with
Photoshop and nothing to do with the monitor. i bet what is happening is
that some other program or some other piece of software installed
somewhere on that computer is taking the focus away from Photoshop, or
possibly clearing and re-drawing the screen. Hell, it's possible that he
has a piece of adware or spyware or some virus or worm that he doesn't
even know about that is periodically stealing focus from whatever
program is in the foreground. Regardless, whatever it is that's stealing
focus is causing Photoshop's lasso tool to snap shot; that happens any
time you're working with the lasso tool and push Photoshop to the
background.

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2006-07-10, 6:17 pm

<philip.kluss@XXXXXXXXXX> wrote in message
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> 2,
>
> I would tend to agree with you, but I don't have a background in
> graphic design so there's not a whole lot of weight behind what I tell
> him in that respect. That's fine though, it's his time, not mine.
> He's extremely anal when it comes to cropping images. He'll blow them
> up to 100000% [hyperbole] and go for days. It's ridiculous, but I
> can't change that.
>
> I didn't think about the buffer size in Photoshop, but I'll definitely
> look into it. Thanks for that suggestion, and I'll let you know how it
> goes.
>
> -pk

is he inadvertently clicking the mouse? it's easy to do, doneit before but
if the guy will look up at lasso options and choose the one with the PLUS
sign he can keep adding to his selection indefinitely, what he told you it
affects the selection is wrong that is why you have an ADD TO SELECTION
option there.
I suspect he is running out of ram or scratch if the image has a million
points, there is also an option for that as well.
suggest Russell brown advanced selections tutorial
http://www.russellbrown.com/tips_tech.html

> 2 wrote:
>

Daemon

2006-07-10, 6:18 pm

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Pen tool, use it, it is nice.

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