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Author Question: Wacom Intuos2 / Intuos3 - what's the diff?
BD

2006-05-18, 6:17 pm

Hey, all.

I'm considering buying a Wacom tablet.

The 9x12 Intuos3 is almost $500. I am considering buying an Intuos2
second-hand.

I've never used one of these jobbies before, and while I expect the
Intuos2 would do the job just fine I am curious about the basic
differences between the '2' and the '3'.

Anyone out there know?

Thanks!!

Andrew Morton

2006-05-18, 6:17 pm

BD wrote:
> I'm considering buying a Wacom tablet.
>
> The 9x12 Intuos3 is almost $500. I am considering buying an Intuos2
> second-hand.


Do you really need a tablet that large? I find an A5 tablet sufficient for
use over two monitors, but then I have it more to avoid mouse RSI than to be
artistic (which I'm not).

> I've never used one of these jobbies before, and while I expect the
> Intuos2 would do the job just fine I am curious about the basic
> differences between the '2' and the '3'.


The main difference is the pen. The one that comes with the Intuos3 is
fatter because it has a rubbery grip. I prefer the pen from the '2, and it's
annoying when I find myself holding my pen and trying to use someone else's
'3 tablet - they don't talk to each other.

Andrew


BD

2006-05-18, 6:17 pm

>Do you really need a tablet that large?

No clue. 'Need' is obviously a relative term, but I've read posts from
people who feel a lot more freedom of movement with the larger surface
area. Personally, I doubt I would 'need' all that much working space,
but I'd hate to blow money on a unit that was too small to be useable.
Better too much area than too little - aside from price considerations,
obviously. ;-)

>I prefer the pen from the '2.


Interesting. I guess as long as they're both pressure sensitive and
have similar resolution (dpi), then either should work for a newbie.

Thanks!

Rudy Benner

2006-05-18, 6:17 pm


"BD" <bobby_dread@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> No clue. 'Need' is obviously a relative term, but I've read posts from
> people who feel a lot more freedom of movement with the larger surface
> area. Personally, I doubt I would 'need' all that much working space,
> but I'd hate to blow money on a unit that was too small to be useable.
> Better too much area than too little - aside from price considerations,
> obviously. ;-)
>
>
> Interesting. I guess as long as they're both pressure sensitive and
> have similar resolution (dpi), then either should work for a newbie.
>
> Thanks!
>


I have the 3 in 9x12 and find it a bit bigger than I need, however, it can
be mapped for a smaller area.

If I had to get another, I would go for the next smaller one. Save some
money toward that second monitor and dual video card.

Flawless installation. Great software bundled with it. Very versatile.

Think of it as a BIG MOUSE with lots of extra features. It will work with
more apps than just Photoshop. In fact, on my notebook, I use the tablet
instead of my trackball mouse. At home, the logistics of my desk are
different, I use both the tablet and the trackball.


BD

2006-05-18, 6:17 pm

>If I had to get another, I would go for the next smaller one.

Given that the normal range of movement for my mouse is about 4" x 3",
I likely wouldn't be using nearly all the real estate of the larger
one.

I will try to borrow one for a while, and get a clearer sense of its
'feel' before I plunk down any cash on one. ;)

Rudy Benner

2006-05-18, 6:17 pm


"BD" <bobby_dread@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Given that the normal range of movement for my mouse is about 4" x 3",
> I likely wouldn't be using nearly all the real estate of the larger
> one.
>
> I will try to borrow one for a while, and get a clearer sense of its
> 'feel' before I plunk down any cash on one. ;)
>


It takes a bit of time to get used to it.


nb

2006-05-18, 10:16 pm

Use it for a couple of weeks to really get used to it and see how it changes
your work. I wouldn't work any other way for photo work now. But it did take
getting used to. I can't comment on difference between 2 and 3. I have a 3.

nb


"BD" <bobby_dread@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Given that the normal range of movement for my mouse is about 4" x 3",
> I likely wouldn't be using nearly all the real estate of the larger
> one.
>
> I will try to borrow one for a while, and get a clearer sense of its
> 'feel' before I plunk down any cash on one. ;)
>



Janee

2006-05-19, 6:16 pm

Hi, BD!
I would advise strongly against getting the 9 x 12 tablet. I have one which
I hate so much that my conscience won't allow me to sell.

So get the 6 x 8. As for getting used to it, here's my advice: Put your
mouse completely AWAY -- like in a drawer -- for 3 full days. Unhook it and
lose it.

Then use your tablet for ALL mousing tasks. Play Solitaire, do email, surf
the groups... and maybe do a little bit of PS work.

You'll feel like a pig on skates. You will want to give up and you will feel
like you just tossed all that money into the loo.

But then at some point on Day 3, you'll realize that the birds are singing
once again, and you will love your tablet. :)
Good luck!
--
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Janee, ACE, ACI
--
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BD

2006-05-19, 6:16 pm

>I have one which I hate so much that my conscience won't allow me to sell.

Hey, Janee.

So why do you hate it so much? Sheer vulgarity of size, or is there
something empirically less functional about it than the smaller
variants?

Have you tried both the versions (2 and 3)?

If you hate your 9x12 so much, you could always tell your conscience to
just turn turn away for the time it takes for you to package it up,
label it with my address, and pop it in the mailslot! ;-) Heck, I'd
even be willing to bribe your conscience with cold hard cash!

Seriously, though - if you have one and do not use it, it does seem
kind of tragic for it to be taking up shelf space, no? Not that I have
a specific desire for the larger one, but I am interested in getting
one second-hand, if it means I can avoid paying full retail for
something that I'm not completely convinced of yet. If you reconsider,
please let me know!

BD.

design1@insight.rr.com

2006-05-20, 6:17 pm


BD wrote:
>
> Hey, Janee.
>
> So why do you hate it so much? Sheer vulgarity of size, or is there
> something empirically less functional about it than the smaller
> variants?
>


I have the 9 x 12 Intuous (yep, first generation) and love it because
it fits with the way I work, which is longer and looser arm movements,
plus I can put it on my lap or prop it at different angles for comfort.
With a smaller tablet, you're pretty much relegated to using it flat on
the desktop.

It's all a matter of personal preference. Think about how you would be
most comfortable working, and make your decision on that basis.

I have used this tablet for (about) the last 10 years, for illustration
and photo retouching, as a designer, artist and art director.

Hunt

2006-05-20, 6:17 pm

In article <1148076312.161173.85120@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
bobby_dread@hotmail.com says...
>
>
>Hey, Janee.
>
>So why do you hate it so much? Sheer vulgarity of size, or is there
>something empirically less functional about it than the smaller
>variants?
>
>Have you tried both the versions (2 and 3)?
>
>If you hate your 9x12 so much, you could always tell your conscience to
>just turn turn away for the time it takes for you to package it up,
>label it with my address, and pop it in the mailslot! ;-) Heck, I'd
>even be willing to bribe your conscience with cold hard cash!
>
>Seriously, though - if you have one and do not use it, it does seem
>kind of tragic for it to be taking up shelf space, no? Not that I have
>a specific desire for the larger one, but I am interested in getting
>one second-hand, if it means I can avoid paying full retail for
>something that I'm not completely convinced of yet. If you reconsider,
>please let me know!
>
>BD


My experience is almost the opposite of Janee's. I have plenty of the big guys
and love them. I have one of the 6x9's and it never gets used, just sits on my
wife's computer for when I HAVE to do something on it. Amazing how personal
preference comes into play with these things. Seems that it was Tacit, who
narrowed the tablet-size useage situation down: if you draw with your fingers,
you'll like the smaller tablet, but if you draw with your arm, you'll go for
the bigger one. As I draw with my arm, it probably explains why I like the big
ones. I've never tried the 18x18 (don't even know if it's still available),
but even my 12x18 is a delight for ME to use.

Have you looked at Wacom's Refurb. area? You are likely to see only "previous"
models there, but all of the folk, that I know, who have bought these have
never experienced a single problem and the price is really quite good. Also,
beats wasting time on eBay.

I have NOT used the Intous 3, but have all other Wacom models since ArtZII,
and love them. One complaint that I have had was that the mouse up to Intuous
I didn't feel right. My Intuous II mouse is still in the box, so I cannot
comment on it. I keep my MS multi-button wheel mouse attached, and use both
the tablet stylus and the MS mouse, depending on what it is, that I'm doing. I
ought to get the II's mouse out, and see if it's better. In the old serial-
port days, there were problems with a mouse and a tablet, but IIRC a driver
fix handled that. I've had both since Win3 and no problems/conflicts.

Be warned - once you use a tablet, you will not be without it again.

Hunt

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