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Re: Please accept my apology!

Postman delivers

2004-06-03, 7:14 pm

"Julie Barkly, irepsonline 'Netpreneur'"
<customerNOSPAMcare@irepsonline.com> wrote in message
news:Veevc.36313$w34.1110909@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
> To all concerned,
>
> Today, I have received written and verbal reprimands from my autoresponder
company, Aweber. In my ignorance and innocence, I forwarded a letter
provided by Moneyhome.com. The intentions were pure-at-heart. I genuinely
thought I was taping into what would be a viable arena of viewers interested
in what I had to present.
>
> After having my autoresponder shut down today, it has been my sad
discovery that my signature links (which contained ads about the businesses
I am affiliated with), isn't allowed by the majority of these News Groups.
>
> I want only to make ammends for my misguided message and want you to know
I am sorry. I truly hope I have not caused much inconvenience for the
recipients of that email.
>
> I ask to be forgiven for my actions and genuinely feel terrible about what
resulted.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Julie Barkley
>
> ---
> MAF Anti-Spam ID: 20040527130128C1n4RsV8
>
>

Julie,

Newsgroups are not the free classified section in the on-line world. Most
newsgroup are a community, with regulars subscribers, posters, visitors and
lurkers. When you or another advertiser comes along and uses software to
post with abandon you have violated the etiquette of common sense. In
addition, you have violated the charters, and the FAQ that are the rules of
many newsgroups.

Most ISP honor the charters and the FAQ of newsgroups and will terminate
accounts if a complaint is sent from several newsgroups to the spammers ISP.
You are apparently very fortunately your account was not terminated for
violating a number of Terms and conditions with your advertising that was
considered spamming.

Newsgroups is not your personal bulletin board, nor the free classified
section of the on-line world. No one in business would spam newsgroups
announcing, with the exception of the latest fraud, or marketing pyramid, or
adult website. Yes, newsgroups try to defend their position in the on-line
world and this become more difficult every day.

http://www.consumer.gov/sentinel/

http://members.impulse.net/~thebob/Pyramid.html

It is not that your auto-responder was shut down, you became a spammer. I
believe you should be required to perform public service, for the spamming
disruption you have done. Next time please have respect, lurk, and take the
time to read the FAQ, or charter of the newsgroup before you violate anyone
on-line community...

Julie, you should be aware that posting unwanted unsolicited advertising to
sell something for profit or as a method to capture e-mail address, are
messages that have no value to the newsgroup subscribers/communities. These
messages use up valuable space on the news servers and push a message off
the newsgroup retention list. In some countries, the reader must pay for the
expense of downloading your advertising message that he or she does not
want, but you posted and created the problem.

Below are some general rules or guidelines for the binary section of the
Usenet.

Folks who post a message with no picture attachment, but a link(s) to a Web
site(s), are spammers.
Folks who post pictures plastered with the URL to their site (billboards)
are spammers.
Folks who put their URL or advertising note in their headers are spammers.
Folks who modify their e-mail address regularly to defy kill filters are
spammers.
Folks who use cross-posting as a method to post to many unrelated newsgroups
are spammers.

In the last 6 months, most individuals have stopped using the cross posting
Usenet feature, and currently only spammers cross post.

The Usenet is not a venue of free advertising. No legitimate business
utilizes spam to gain market recognition.

JR the postman

Shamus

2004-06-03, 7:14 pm

in article 67Lvc.10652$Yd3.1961@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net, Postman
delivers at postman@no-spam-e-mail.org wrote on 06/03/2004 12:38 PM:

>
> Julie, you should be aware that posting unwanted unsolicited advertising to
> sell something for profit are messages that have no value to the newsgroup
> subscribers/communities.

You don't get to decide that. Maybe her message was very interesting. You
don't get to decide what is of "value" to a newsgroup.

by the way...

http://www.artistmike.com is a very interesting and valuable web site.

Roy Petersen

2004-06-04, 12:14 pm

On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 19:38:42 GMT, "Postman delivers"
<postman@no-spam-e-mail.org> wrote:

>Folks who post a message with no picture attachment, but a link(s) to a Web
>site(s), are spammers.

Really? This is a non-binary group, so images are not allowed, and
links are the only proper way to show something.

E.D.

2004-06-04, 7:14 pm

"Postman delivers" <postman@no-spam-e-mail.org> wrote in message
news:67Lvc.10652$Yd3.1961@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> "Julie Barkly, irepsonline 'Netpreneur'"
> <customerNOSPAMcare@irepsonline.com> wrote in message
> news:Veevc.36313$w34.1110909@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
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> The Usenet is not a venue of free advertising. No legitimate business
> utilizes spam to gain market recognition.
>
> JR the postman
>
I think she already got the point postman, that is why she offered her
apologies
>