Computer Graphics with Photoshop

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crisp sharp arcs ?

2004-09-28, 7:15 am

Hi all

I have been playing with web site and graphic design for a while now but
keep running into this same silly little problem.

How do I draw a nice clean edged arc/circle? All I want is a simple
'line drawing' to diagram soccer plays but I keep getting ugly results.
The final product always looks like the 'blown-up' version where every
curve looks like a pile of boxes.

I know it can be done much better because I found a gif image on the web
that is just like what I am trying to do but looks a _lot_ cleaner and
even prints well

-> http://www3.telus.net/bikim/ice -> 'Official Pitch'

TIA

Phil N

bigbopper

2004-09-28, 7:15 am

in article z286d.167120$XP3.87118@edtnps84, pn at philn@telus.net wrote on
09/28/2004 12:05 AM:

>
> How do I draw a nice clean edged arc/circle?

Hire someone to do it for you. You are not up to the task.

Orchid

2004-09-28, 7:15 am

pn <philn@telus.net> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I have been playing with web site and graphic design for a while now but
> keep running into this same silly little problem.
>
> How do I draw a nice clean edged arc/circle? All I want is a simple
> 'line drawing' to diagram soccer plays but I keep getting ugly results.
> The final product always looks like the 'blown-up' version where every
> curve looks like a pile of boxes.
>
> I know it can be done much better because I found a gif image on the web
> that is just like what I am trying to do but looks a _lot_ cleaner and
> even prints well
>
> -> http://www3.telus.net/bikim/ice -> 'Official Pitch'

Draw the diagram at exactly the size you want it to be on your web site
at 72 dpi using the shapes/vector tools in Photoshop. Or, draw it in
Illustrator and rasterize it at the desired size.

Vector images (created in Illustrator or Freehand) when rasterized yield
crisp, clean lines and give you flexibility in choosing the image size
in the future with clean-looking results.

However, if you don't know how to manipulate paths, shapes or points,
creating this type of artwork may be rather difficult for you.

Orchid

David Thompson

2004-09-28, 12:14 pm

You could use a program which uses vectors to create a shape, which I don't
know much about. However, if you're using some version of Photoshop, this
will work:
Select the ellipse from the Marquee toolbox
Hold down the shift key and drag a perfect circle of the required size.
Pick a foreground color, then ">Edit >Stroke... to select the line width and
placement you want.
Click Enter, then deselect the Marquee tool.

"pn" <philn@telus.net> wrote in message
news:z286d.167120$XP3.87118@edtnps84...
Hi all

I have been playing with web site and graphic design for a while now but
keep running into this same silly little problem.

How do I draw a nice clean edged arc/circle? All I want is a simple
'line drawing' to diagram soccer plays but I keep getting ugly results.
The final product always looks like the 'blown-up' version where every
curve looks like a pile of boxes.

I know it can be done much better because I found a gif image on the web
that is just like what I am trying to do but looks a _lot_ cleaner and
even prints well

-> http://www3.telus.net/bikim/ice -> 'Official Pitch'

TIA

Phil N

Mike Russell

2004-09-28, 7:16 pm

pn wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I have been playing with web site and graphic design for a while now
> but keep running into this same silly little problem.
>
> How do I draw a nice clean edged arc/circle? All I want is a simple
> 'line drawing' to diagram soccer plays but I keep getting ugly
> results. The final product always looks like the 'blown-up' version
> where every curve looks like a pile of boxes.

The pencil tool will do this. Make sure your resoltion is high enough, and
that you use a 1 pixel brush and not the pencil.

> I know it can be done much better because I found a gif image on the
> web that is just like what I am trying to do but looks a _lot_
> cleaner and even prints well
>
> -> http://www3.telus.net/bikim/ice -> 'Official Pitch'

Three methods to try:

1) rule and compas - use circular marquee to draw circles which you then
stroke with a one or two pixel brush. There are a lot of options here that
are not obvious from the get go. For example, you may drag guides onto your
image, and selected circles will snap to the intersections of these guides
in helful ways.

2) pen tool - lay down an arbitrary line with the pen tool, and use the
Stroke Path command in the Paths palette to draw over it with a narrow 1 or
2 pixel brush.

3) the line tool - this may be your most useful option, although it is
restricted to straight lines, there is an option to add an arrowhead to the
end.

When you save your final image, use png or higher quality jpeg and not gif,
which has a tendency to show jaggies.

BTW - sometimes getting answers here is like reaching for coins in the
bottom of a pool full of pirranah's :-) Not to worry - if you can ignore
them they can't really bite.
--

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

Gadgets

2004-09-29, 4:14 am

Line/box/ellipse tool - use the various options in the options bar to create
a shape only/filled shape/hollow shape

Cheers, Jason (remove ... to reply)
Video & Gaming: http://gadgetaus.com

2004-09-29, 4:14 am

Thanks very much to all who have been helpful and to the other(s): maybe
you could hire someone to be a human for you - you're obviously not up
to the task.

Phil

pn wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I have been playing with web site and graphic design for a while now but
> keep running into this same silly little problem.
>
> How do I draw a nice clean edged arc/circle? All I want is a simple
> 'line drawing' to diagram soccer plays but I keep getting ugly results.
> The final product always looks like the 'blown-up' version where every
> curve looks like a pile of boxes.
>
> I know it can be done much better because I found a gif image on the web
> that is just like what I am trying to do but looks a _lot_ cleaner and
> even prints well
>
> -> http://www3.telus.net/bikim/ice -> 'Official Pitch'
>
> TIA
>
> Phil N

bigbopper

2004-09-29, 7:14 am

in article Rup6d.1285$Du2.431@edtnps89, pn at philn@telus.net wrote on
09/28/2004 7:55 PM:

> and to the other(s): maybe
> you could hire someone to be a human for you - you're obviously not up
> to the task.

How about you hire someone to fill you in that this is not a free ride.

Do your own work. Every time you try and get something for nothing you run
the risk of being confronted for your error.

Mike Russell

2004-09-29, 7:14 am

bigbopper wrote:
> in article Rup6d.1285$Du2.431@edtnps89, pn at philn@telus.net wrote on
> 09/28/2004 7:55 PM:
>
>
>
> How about you hire someone to fill you in that this is not a free
> ride.
>
> Do your own work. Every time you try and get something for nothing
> you run the risk of being confronted for your error.

I disagree completely. Most of my effort in this newsgroup is exactly that:
giving something for nothing.

All are welcome to post their questions here, just as all are welcome to
respond or not as they see fit.
--

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

Orchid

2004-09-29, 12:14 pm

Mike Russell <REgeigyMOVE@pacbellTHIS.net> wrote:

> bigbopper wrote:
>
> I disagree completely. Most of my effort in this newsgroup is exactly that:
> giving something for nothing.

I think giving something for nothing is pretty much the point of
participating in newsgroups unless you're a spammer...in which case
you're giving nothing for nothing.

Orchid

Mike Russell

2004-09-29, 12:14 pm

Orchid wrote:
> Mike Russell <REgeigyMOVE@pacbellTHIS.net> wrote:
>
>
> I think giving something for nothing is pretty much the point of
> participating in newsgroups unless you're a spammer...in which case
> you're giving nothing for nothing.
>
> Orchid

Well said. There is a third category - people who sometimes chose to hurt
others.

Some of the more complex characters in this group are capable of both -
talented people who enjoy amplifying that talent, in their own eyes at
least, by using it as a lure to hurt others.

I would not choose to be involved in the actual personal lives of those
people. And sorrow to those who are, because they have fallen the ugliest
of human traps: a smart person who enjoys hurting others.
--

Mike Russell
www.curvemeister.com
www.geigy.2y.net

Tacit

2004-09-29, 12:14 pm

>Do your own work. Every time you try and get something for nothing you run
>the risk of being confronted for your error.

One thing I really, really like about comp.graphics.apps.photoshop--with proper
use of killfiles, it becomes a very pleasant place.

>plonk<

--
Art, literature, shareware, polyamory, kink, and more:
http://www.xeromag.com/franklin.html

bigbopper

2004-09-29, 7:14 pm

in article Gmt6d.2645$JG2.767@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com, Mike Russell at
REgeigyMOVE@pacbellTHIS.net wrote on 09/29/2004 12:20 AM:

> Most of my effort in this newsgroup is exactly that:
> giving something for nothing.

So what? Just because you choose to do something does not mean that anyone
else has to do the same thing.

bigbopper

2004-09-29, 7:14 pm

in article 1gkvxsp.ch7zveaibgcgN%orchid@somewhere.net, Orchid at
orchid@somewhere.net wrote on 09/29/2004 1:29 AM:

> I think giving something for nothing is pretty much the point of
> participating in newsgroups

Unless you are a crybaby, like you... then all you give is baby tears.

There is no one use for a newsgroup. Each person decides how they will use
the newsgroup.

tacit

2004-09-29, 7:14 pm

in article 20040929103011.18589.00001632@mb-m29.aol.com, Tacit at
tacitr@aol.com wrote on 09/29/2004 7:30 AM:

>
> One thing I really, really like about comp.graphics.apps.photoshop--with
> proper
> use of killfiles, it becomes a very pleasant place.
>
>

So what. Goofball.

RSD99

2004-09-29, 7:14 pm

PLONK

Carol J

2004-09-29, 7:14 pm

in article iRD6d.30$lf2.0@trnddc09, RSD99 at rsdwla.NOSPAM@gte.net wrote on
09/29/2004 12:15 PM:

> PLONK
>
>

Who cares what you do?

RC Moonpie

2004-09-29, 7:14 pm

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:56:59 -0700, bigbopper
<youreallyshoulddiet@fatpeople.org> wrote:

>in article Gmt6d.2645$JG2.767@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com, Mike Russell at
>REgeigyMOVE@pacbellTHIS.net wrote on 09/29/2004 12:20 AM:
>
>
>So what? Just because you choose to do something does not mean that anyone
>else has to do the same thing.
>

Exactly. They could choose to be an egomaniacal pest like you have
been for years. Good job Mike.

tacit

2004-09-29, 11:14 pm

in article d85ml0h7946ddd8r66lf3knqrjgsfqbg0u@4ax.com, RC Moonpie at
rc_moonpies@hotmail.com wrote on 09/29/2004 1:04 PM:

> On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:56:59 -0700, bigbopper
> <youreallyshoulddiet@fatpeople.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Exactly. They could choose to be an egomaniacal pest like you have
> been for years. Good job Mike.
>
>
>

Is there some reason "Mike" should care what you think?

2004-09-29, 11:14 pm

tacit wrote:

> not worth reprinting

Just to prove that I am indeed a moronic newbie; I only just now
realized that I can filter newsgroups.

Thanks

Phil
'not-up-to-the-task-of-spewing-idiotic-platitudes-with-some-of-the-geniuses-on-this-list'
N

tacit

2004-09-29, 11:14 pm

in article 2RG6d.3208$3j5.1235@clgrps13, pn at philn@telus.net wrote on
09/29/2004 3:39 PM:

> 'not-up-to-the-task-of-spewing-idiotic-platitudes-with-some-of-the-geniuses-on
> -this-list'
> N

This is a newsgroup, not a "list", newbie.

David Thompson

2004-10-02, 12:14 pm

Gadgets

2004-10-02, 12:14 pm

Line/box/ellipse tool - use the various options in the options bar to create
a shape only/filled shape/hollow shape

Cheers, Jason (remove ... to reply)
Video & Gaming: http://gadgetaus.com

bigbopper

2004-10-02, 12:14 pm

Orchid

2004-10-02, 12:14 pm

Tacit

2004-10-02, 12:14 pm

tacit

2004-10-02, 12:14 pm

RC Moonpie

2004-10-06, 7:14 am