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Bastet

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

I have been advised to purchase Canon media in order to accurately calibrate
my printer (makes sense, as it's a Canon!) but it's incredibly expensive
(twice what I was paying for media for my old Epson SP895). Would High
Definition be OK for calibration - as it's the cheapest.

The problem is I wish to turn my images into greeting cards, which means I
need a heavy(ish) card stock (around 210g/m²), and it really needs to be
matte, as art doesn't look good on glossy. As I'm in the UK Red River isn't
an option (shame as every American I know raves about it), and Canon doesn't
appear to produce card stock.

So what does anyone recommend? I'm hoping to make some money out of this so
any advice would be most welcome.

Thanks.


Marty1a

2003-11-24, 10:20 am





"Bastet" <bastet@luxor.et> wrote in message
news:bpoepl$43b$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
quote:

> I have been advised to purchase Canon media in order to accurately


calibrate
quote:

> my printer (makes sense, as it's a Canon!) but it's incredibly expensive
> (twice what I was paying for media for my old Epson SP895). Would High
> Definition be OK for calibration - as it's the cheapest.
>
> The problem is I wish to turn my images into greeting cards, which means I
> need a heavy(ish) card stock (around 210g/m²), and it really needs to be
> matte, as art doesn't look good on glossy. As I'm in the UK Red River


isn't
quote:

> an option (shame as every American I know raves about it), and Canon


doesn't
quote:

> appear to produce card stock.
>
> So what does anyone recommend? I'm hoping to make some money out of this


so
quote:

> any advice would be most welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
>



Try
http://www.createandcraft.com/csp/isd/craft/index.csp for the card for
greetings cards

HTH
Martin

PS - Its a UK Company





No Where Man

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

Kodak and Avery both make greeting card stock


LauraK

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

Digital Art Supplies will ship to the UK.
They aren't the cheapest, but they have incredible papers. They have some
heavy, watercolor weight greeting card papers that are wonderful.
http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/holgreetcar.html
Excellent company.

laurak@madmousergraphics.com
http://www.madmousergraphics.com
web design, print design, photography


Joe Hayes

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

I don't think you can possibly make money off anything inkjet. The ink and
paper supplies you purchase at your local store are consumer-grade products
which are heavily marked up compared to what commercial printers pay when
they buy bulk. Card stock needs to be properly scored and folded before
becoming greeting cards, and that requires equipment you don't have.

"Bastet" <bastet@luxor.et> wrote in message
news:bpoepl$43b$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
quote:

> I have been advised to purchase Canon media in order to accurately


calibrate
quote:

> my printer (makes sense, as it's a Canon!) but it's incredibly expensive
> (twice what I was paying for media for my old Epson SP895). Would High
> Definition be OK for calibration - as it's the cheapest.
>
> The problem is I wish to turn my images into greeting cards, which means I
> need a heavy(ish) card stock (around 210g/m²), and it really needs to be
> matte, as art doesn't look good on glossy. As I'm in the UK Red River


isn't
quote:

> an option (shame as every American I know raves about it), and Canon


doesn't
quote:

> appear to produce card stock.
>
> So what does anyone recommend? I'm hoping to make some money out of this


so
quote:

> any advice would be most welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
>




Bastet

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

Joe Hayes wrote:
quote:

> I don't think you can possibly make money off anything inkjet. The
> ink and paper supplies you purchase at your local store are
> consumer-grade products which are heavily marked up compared to what
> commercial printers pay when they buy bulk. Card stock needs to be
> properly scored and folded before becoming greeting cards, and that
> requires equipment you don't have.



Excuse me?! How do you know what equipment I have?! Who are you to make such
a statement?! I've been scoring cards for years using a craft knife and a
metal craft ruler - with excellent results, thanks very much!

May I suggest you keep your comments to yourself in future?! I never said I
wanted to compete with W.H. Smith's - that's not my market. My market is the
Royal National Rose Society and the Royal Horticultural Society. Of course
people who want to pay £1.99 for 10 aren't going to be interested! You can
pay a lot for a hand crafted card these days - there are some in my local
gift shop for £6 each. I'm not going to charge that much, but I'm not
catering to the masses.



Joe Hayes

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

"Bastet" <bastet@luxor.et> wrote in message
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quote:

>
> Excuse me?! How do you know what equipment I have?! Who are you to make


such
quote:

> a statement?! I've been scoring cards for years using a craft knife and a
> metal craft ruler - with excellent results, thanks very much!
>
> May I suggest you keep your comments to yourself in future?! I never said


I
quote:

> wanted to compete with W.H. Smith's - that's not my market. My market is


the
quote:

> Royal National Rose Society and the Royal Horticultural Society. Of course
> people who want to pay £1.99 for 10 aren't going to be interested! You can
> pay a lot for a hand crafted card these days - there are some in my local
> gift shop for £6 each. I'm not going to charge that much, but I'm not
> catering to the masses.



Calm the heck down before you give yourself a coronary. Sheesh. If you
can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.


LauraK

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

>I don't think you can possibly make money off anything inkjet. The ink and
quote:

>paper supplies you purchase at your local store are consumer-grade products
>which are heavily marked up compared to what commercial printers pay when
>they buy bulk. Card stock needs to be properly scored and folded before
>becoming greeting cards, and that requires equipment you don't have.



You can make money off inkjet cards if you know what you're doing and you
realize there is a lot more to paper than what Staples stocks.
There are lots of extremely high quality papers available, already scored.
http://www.digitalartsupplies.com
http://www.redriverpaper.com


laurak@madmousergraphics.com
http://www.madmousergraphics.com
web design, print design, photography


imaginuity

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

I know it is an added process but I have always liked "applied" cards, where
the front is hi-qual inkjet paper trimmed and glued onto the standard card
substrate. Cheapest alternative, but highest labour content I guess....and
at volume -- ouch on the pinkies.

..02c

Steve


"LauraK" <lkrz@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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> You can make money off inkjet cards if you know what you're doing and you
> realize there is a lot more to paper than what Staples stocks.
> There are lots of extremely high quality papers available, already scored.
> http://www.digitalartsupplies.com
> http://www.redriverpaper.com
>
>
> laurak@madmousergraphics.com
> http://www.madmousergraphics.com
> web design, print design, photography
>
>




imaginuity

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

I wish I could buy coloured Hi-Res paper stock

not gaudy, just buff/send type colours

Steve



"LauraK" <lkrz@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
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quote:

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>
> You can make money off inkjet cards if you know what you're doing and you
> realize there is a lot more to paper than what Staples stocks.
> There are lots of extremely high quality papers available, already scored.
> http://www.digitalartsupplies.com
> http://www.redriverpaper.com
>
>
> laurak@madmousergraphics.com
> http://www.madmousergraphics.com
> web design, print design, photography
>
>




Gary

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

I like the Ilford Gallerie Range.

Gary
"imaginuity" <seriphISAIDNOBLOODYSPAM@consultant.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> I wish I could buy coloured Hi-Res paper stock
>
> not gaudy, just buff/send type colours
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> "LauraK" <lkrz@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
> news:20031122181507.25862.00000658@mb-m05.aol.com...
> and
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Eddie

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

Sorry for off-topic, but, am curious re your false addy name and id, was in
Egypt last year great. Contact me at
bechtaCAT@iinet.ne.au but remove the CAT, maybe we can exchange experiences.

Eddie



"Bastet" <bastet@luxor.et> wrote in message
news:bpoepl$43b$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
quote:

> I have been advised to purchase Canon media in order to accurately


calibrate
quote:

> my printer (makes sense, as it's a Canon!) but it's incredibly expensive
> (twice what I was paying for media for my old Epson SP895). Would High
> Definition be OK for calibration - as it's the cheapest.
>
> The problem is I wish to turn my images into greeting cards, which means I
> need a heavy(ish) card stock (around 210g/m²), and it really needs to be
> matte, as art doesn't look good on glossy. As I'm in the UK Red River


isn't
quote:

> an option (shame as every American I know raves about it), and Canon


doesn't
quote:

> appear to produce card stock.
>
> So what does anyone recommend? I'm hoping to make some money out of this


so
quote:

> any advice would be most welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
>




Larry

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

I've been using Red River paper exlusively, and I think the stuff is great.

Their prices are much better, shipping is reasonable, and their packaging is
absolutely first-rate.

You can buy inexpensive sample kits that are very extensive and contain
practically every paper they sell so you can try it out.

-Larry

"Bastet" <bastet@luxor.et> wrote in message
news:bpoepl$43b$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
quote:

> I have been advised to purchase Canon media in order to accurately


calibrate
quote:

> my printer (makes sense, as it's a Canon!) but it's incredibly expensive
> (twice what I was paying for media for my old Epson SP895). Would High
> Definition be OK for calibration - as it's the cheapest.
>
> The problem is I wish to turn my images into greeting cards, which means I
> need a heavy(ish) card stock (around 210g/m²), and it really needs to be
> matte, as art doesn't look good on glossy. As I'm in the UK Red River


isn't
quote:

> an option (shame as every American I know raves about it), and Canon


doesn't
quote:

> appear to produce card stock.
>
> So what does anyone recommend? I'm hoping to make some money out of this


so
quote:

> any advice would be most welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
>




John Houghton

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

http://www.on-linepaper.co.uk/ have some nice fine art card stock.

John

"Bastet" <bastet@luxor.et> wrote in message
news:bpoepl$43b$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
quote:

> I have been advised to purchase Canon media in order to accurately


calibrate
quote:

> my printer (makes sense, as it's a Canon!) but it's incredibly expensive
> (twice what I was paying for media for my old Epson SP895). Would High
> Definition be OK for calibration - as it's the cheapest.
>
> The problem is I wish to turn my images into greeting cards, which means I
> need a heavy(ish) card stock (around 210g/m²), and it really needs to be
> matte, as art doesn't look good on glossy. As I'm in the UK Red River


isn't
quote:

> an option (shame as every American I know raves about it), and Canon


doesn't
quote:

> appear to produce card stock.
>
> So what does anyone recommend? I'm hoping to make some money out of this


so
quote:

> any advice would be most welcome.
>
> Thanks.
>
>




Harry Limey

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

Bastet mentioned in his original message
<snip>As I'm in the UK Red River isn't an option (shame as every American I
know raves about it), <snip>
The cost of shipping from the USA to the UK is prohibitive except for
lightweight more expensive items unfortunately!
Harry

"LauraK" <lkrz@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
news:20031122181507.25862.00000658@mb-m05.aol.com...
quote:

> You can make money off inkjet cards if you know what you're doing and you
> realize there is a lot more to paper than what Staples stocks.
> There are lots of extremely high quality papers available, already scored.
> http://www.digitalartsupplies.com
> http://www.redriverpaper.com
>
>
> laurak@madmousergraphics.com
> http://www.madmousergraphics.com
> web design, print design, photography
>
>




Uni

2003-11-24, 10:20 am

Bastet wrote:
quote:

>
> May I suggest you keep your comments to yourself in future?!




Bastet also wrote:
quote:

>
> any advice would be most welcome.
>
> Thanks.



Seems that's not really the case.

Regards,
Uni

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