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jimmy

2007-08-29, 6:19 pm

hi all
i know i am asking some thing stupid. but can some one help me to
figure out how the small side arrows(the tiny white ones) are
appearing in the side menu of this page "http://www.enme.umd.edu/"

Thks
J

GreyWyvern

2007-08-29, 6:19 pm

And lo, jimmy didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:

> hi all
> i know i am asking some thing stupid. but can some one help me to
> figure out how the small side arrows(the tiny white ones) are
> appearing in the side menu of this page "http://www.enme.umd.edu/"

It's a Project Seven javascript menu add-on for Dreamweaver 8. The
javascript code itself adds the arrows once the document has finished
loading, so you won't see any evidence of them in the source.

If you want to use it on your own site, you'll need to buy it:
http://www.projectseven.com/product...stems/index.htm

Alternatively, you could build your own.

Grey

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John Hosking

2007-08-29, 6:19 pm

GreyWyvern wrote:
> And lo, jimmy didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
>
>
> It's a Project Seven javascript menu add-on for Dreamweaver 8. The
> javascript code itself adds the arrows once the document has finished
> loading, so you won't see any evidence of them in the source.

Comically enough, the right-pointing arrow is named arrow-up.gif (as
opposed to arrow-down.gif, which actually points down). These appear as
background images in the CSS in my FF (Web Developer Toolbar) when JS is
turned on. Without JS, the CSS doesn't get built (as you say).

Also in the JS-CSS, and also comical:
#p7TMnav div div {display:none;}
#p7TMnav div div div {display:none;}

.... another 16 rules, each with one more descendent div...

#p7TMnav div div div div div div div div div div div div div div div div
div div div div {display:none;}

which makes me wonder about the cluefulness of the rest of the Project 7
code.

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John
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GreyWyvern

2007-08-29, 6:19 pm

And lo, John Hosking didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:

> Also in the JS-CSS, and also comical:
> #p7TMnav div div {display:none;}
> #p7TMnav div div div {display:none;}
>
> ... another 16 rules, each with one more descendent div...
>
> #p7TMnav div div div div div div div div div div div div div div div div
> div div div div {display:none;}

O RLY? :) Only 16? Their website advertises "unlimited" sub-menu
levels. Someone should complain.

> which makes me wonder about the cluefulness of the rest of the Project 7
> code.

They've targeted a marketshare (DW users) most of whom have been trained
not to ask "dumb" questions about what's happening under the hood.

Grey

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jimmy

2007-08-29, 6:19 pm

On Aug 29, 12:22 pm, John Hosking <J...@DELETE.Hosking.name.INVALID>
wrote:
> GreyWyvern wrote:
>
>
>
> Comically enough, the right-pointing arrow is named arrow-up.gif (as
> opposed to arrow-down.gif, which actually points down). These appear as
> background images in the CSS in my FF (Web Developer Toolbar) when JS is
> turned on. Without JS, the CSS doesn't get built (as you say).
>
> Also in the JS-CSS, and also comical:
> #p7TMnav div div {display:none;}
> #p7TMnav div div div {display:none;}
>
> ... another 16 rules, each with one more descendent div...
>
> #p7TMnav div div div div div div div div div div div div div div div div
> div div div div {display:none;}
>
> which makes me wonder about the cluefulness of the rest of the Project 7
> code.
>
> --
> John
> Pondering the value of the UIP:http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

HI

first and foremost Thanks to everybody for taking time to answer.

and i also did some digging and was looking in the CSS file of
P7mbasicbut-bm2.css and truly right arrow is named as "arrow-
up.gif".......now the question is were is this "arrow-up.gif" image
supposed be......... trying to find this out now :)
I am just updating the stuff started by some one so i have to manage
my way by looking under the hood :).... as i am not a pro in web
design

also to add if i save the full webpage on my system and then view it
the arrows don't generate but can bee seen when paged is viewed from
actual webserver?
any idea why???

Thanks again guys
Jimmy

GreyWyvern

2007-08-29, 6:19 pm

And lo, jimmy didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:

> also to add if i save the full webpage on my system and then view it
> the arrows don't generate but can bee seen when paged is viewed from
> actual webserver?
> any idea why???

Are you saving the "full webpage" using Internet Explorer? If so, you're
being foolish to expect *anything* to keep working as it was. IE
reformulates saved code using it's own arcane rituals.

I saved it using Opera's "HTML with images" option and the menu worked
just fine.

Grey

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jimmy

2007-08-29, 6:19 pm

On Aug 29, 3:54 pm, GreyWyvern <s...@greywyvern.com> wrote:
> And lo, jimmy didst speak in alt.www.webmaster:
>
>
> Are you saving the "full webpage" using Internet Explorer? If so, you're
> being foolish to expect *anything* to keep working as it was. IE
> reformulates saved code using it's own arcane rituals.
>
> I saved it using Opera's "HTML with images" option and the menu worked
> just fine.
>
> Grey
>
> --
> The technical axiom that nothing is impossible sinisterly implies the
> pitfall corollary that nothing is ridiculous.
> -http://www.greywyvern.com/orca#search- Orca Search: Full-featured
> spider and site-search engine

Hey greg
well i use firefox and as i remm i saved page using FF2 compleate
webpage i dont have opera install will try with Safari
I have long stopped using IE :)

Bergamot

2007-08-30, 6:17 pm

jimmy wrote:
>
> i saved page using FF2 compleate

FYI, Firefox Save Complete only includes images referenced in HTML <img>
tags. If the image is only referenced in CSS or JavaScript, it doesn't save.

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Berg